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Old 01-25-2008, 10:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello, I have been trolling the forum looking for an answer to this. I thought I had it figured out but it only works for a few hours.

My personal user account has Domain Admin Privlidges. When I add the BESADMIN account with Send as, it works fine. After a few hours, I loose the BESadmin account from my security tab completely.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to repair this? Am i the only person who is a domain admin that uses the BES server?

Thanks for any input....

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Old 01-25-2008, 11:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
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You will either need to remove yourself from the group or apply one of the fixes in article 817433 from Microsoft.

There are a list of groups in that article that no longer can inherit permissions and if you set Send As on a user in one of the affected groups within 2 hours you will lose it again.

Thank Microsoft for that one, it's a security update that directly affects RIM's BESAdmin account but is technically not a RIM/BES issue because it is AD permissions.

The 817433 should get you working while being able to be a domain admin.

Let us know how it goes.
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I just requested the hot fix. Thanks. I have seen about 4 MS articles on this but not that KB number....

I will let you know

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I haven't heard much on the hot fix, hopefully it works for ya. If not I would look at Methods 2 or 3 as well.

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You will either need to remove yourself from the group or apply one of the fixes in article 817433 from Microsoft.
Good stuff. Although not "Best Practice", we went the route of:

dsacls "cn=adminsdholder,cn=system,dc=domainname,dc=c om" /G "domain\BESAdmin:CA;Send As"

back when it was a hot issue and have since cleaned up our act a bit.

You may also find that some folks that "were" in protected groups do not inherit perms either. As removing them from protected groups does not decrement the admincount. You can find those in your domain with:

dsquery * domainroot -filter "&(objectcategory=person)(mail=*)(admincount=1 )" -l -limit 0

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I know that dsacls is good for this issue but at the same time dangerous if not used correctly. I usually leave it as a last resort. I've had people ruin accounts by not using this carefully, but if you know what you're doing then it should do the trick better any work around.
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I know that dsacls is good for this issue but at the same time dangerous if not used correctly. I usually leave it as a last resort. I've had people ruin accounts by not using this carefully, but if you know what you're doing then it should do the trick better any work around.
I am cmd line guy from way back. So the command line to me is FIRST resort. I agree that you need to know how to use the tools and the correct syntax, but that is true of all tools. As managment functions move back to the shell (like PoSh) people must get use to the tools and understand the implications before hitting enter.
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I have been swampped and just got to this thread again.

When I go into adminsdholder I do not have Sendas listed as a special permision for me to check off. i am going into it via adsiedit. I do not want to just assign full control.
Any ideas?
I see it under cn=users but not cn=system
thanks
Matt

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Had this same issue. He set besadmin account with send as perms for all users at the domain level in AD. Due to MS security updates this doesnt apply to admins anymore. The way we worked around it was to go into security tab, then advanced. We re-enabled inheritance of security for that user object. After verifiying that the besadmin send as perms were on the user account, we unchecked inheritance. It will ask you if you want to copy permissions or erase them. we select copy. After thats done, the permission doesnt get reset anymore. This worked for our Accoun Operators. Didnt try for domain admins becuase for security purposes we gave our domain admins separate admin accounts without mailboxes.

Hope this works for you.
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