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Bruce Bird 02-12-2008 08:34 PM

BB Server admin courses (melbourne)
 
Anyone been on any of these courses? Did you do the inhouse, the online, or some other?? What did you think of them?
Have you heard of any being better than others (Course centers)?

I've called a few course centers, and they all have different expectations of basic computer/server knowledge, but dont seem to want to let much information out... its all secret until you pay.

I've been on an Oracle "introduction" course, and dudes were standing up saying "Hi, Im Roger, I've been using Oracle for 15yrs etc", at that point I got up and started walking out as intro course, should be step 1 not step 500... as at that time, I'd borrowed 10k to put myself thru the courses, and had no basic knowledge. I dont wanna go thru that again.

From what i can see, there are 3 courses
BlackBerry User Training
BlackBerry Helpdesk Training
BlackBerry Enterprise Server Training

Thoughts, tips, do/dont dos??

Thanks
Bruce.

ezrunner 02-12-2008 09:29 PM

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8800/4.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)

Nope but would be interested in this myself

gibson_hg 02-13-2008 06:02 AM

If you want to do some RIM courses I would look at the course syllabus on the RIM web site:

BlackBerry - BlackBerry | Wireless Handheld Devices, Software & Services from Research In Motion (RIM)

I would recommend both the handheld and BES courses if you can do both. But if you're comfortable with the handheld then go for the BES course. Whatever you do make sure it's a RIM hosted course, they have the schedule in the link I posted so you can see when the next open session will be nearist you.

I would go for a classroom based session, you wil get way more out of it. The inclass is hands on training, the training setups their own network with a BES on each machine for you to muck around with.

Review the online syllabus and schedule and go from there.

Bruce Bird 02-13-2008 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gibson_hg (Post 833560)
If you want to do some RIM courses I would look at the course syllabus on the RIM web site:

BlackBerry - BlackBerry | Wireless Handheld Devices, Software & Services from Research In Motion (RIM)

I would recommend both the handheld and BES courses if you can do both. But if you're comfortable with the handheld then go for the BES course. Whatever you do make sure it's a RIM hosted course, they have the schedule in the link I posted so you can see when the next open session will be nearist you.

I would go for a classroom based session, you wil get way more out of it. The inclass is hands on training, the training setups their own network with a BES on each machine for you to muck around with.

Review the online syllabus and schedule and go from there.

thanks for the info.> The only thing I have issues with classroom courses are sometimes they feel like they are just follow the bouncing ball... Just word for word from the course notes, EG M$ courses.. nothing else. Little disappointing really.

Will check the RIM link.

Thanks
Bruce.

Bruce Bird 02-14-2008 12:08 AM

apprently Australians dont use BB products... (n) (n) (n) (n) (n)

BlackBerry - BlackBerry | Wireless Handheld Devices, Software & Services from Research In Motion (RIM)

gibson_hg 02-14-2008 07:37 AM

These are open sessions that anyone can register for. I'm not sure if the company you work for would pay to have RIM come in and put of a course for you and your co-workers. It's not cheap but you benefit from it, a friend of mine just had their courses this week and they learned a bit. And most RIM trainers try not to just read off the slides either, they try to keep you interested and awake :razz:

It does suck that they're not putting off an open session in Australia though. I'm not sure why, but I would think they have some reason. You could always email them and ask why or try to get a quote to have RIM come to you.

Bruce Bird 02-14-2008 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gibson_hg (Post 835196)
These are open sessions that anyone can register for. I'm not sure if the company you work for would pay to have RIM come in and put of a course for you and your co-workers. It's not cheap but you benefit from it, a friend of mine just had their courses this week and they learned a bit. And most RIM trainers try not to just read off the slides either, they try to keep you interested and awake :razz:

It does suck that they're not putting off an open session in Australia though. I'm not sure why, but I would think they have some reason. You could always email them and ask why or try to get a quote to have RIM come to you.

Aussie usually gets forgotten.. Doubt work would wanna put the IT Team thru it, theres only me. And the users dont matter ;)

Bruce Bird 02-25-2008 11:47 PM

Nobody has done any?
Amazing, although disappointing.

hdawg 02-26-2008 07:01 AM

We've had people from our company go to RIM training ... we've also done RIM training. The training is similiar to that of any classroom training you would get where it is instructor led with a course book.

LovingMyBB 02-26-2008 10:25 AM

I attended the BES Admin Training less than a month agao. I went to BES Admin v4.1 Level 1 & 2. I must say it was a good course. You will know by the end of the class in and out the flow of messages and how a BES works. I recommend this to any Admin who is just starting out. At WES this year they are offering for the first time BES Admin Certifications. If you have support through RIM for your BES you can also get a discount on these courses as well.

BES/Domino Blog

Bruce Bird 07-13-2008 11:02 PM

so out of the 100's here only a couple have done courses?

Still none in aussie..

hdawg 07-14-2008 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Bird (Post 1015186)
so out of the 100's here only a couple have done courses?

Still none in aussie..

I don't personally know anyone that has taken a RIM training course (worldwide). We sent one person from our office to a certification class, that is all.

CanadianCrack 07-14-2008 08:47 AM

At WES I took Administering and Supporting BES 4.1 sp5 part 1.
As a previous poster said, it gives you a good understanding of the
message flow and it was worth taking.
Others I spoke to that took part 2 of the course said that it
expanded on what was covered in part 1, but they didn't find it too helpful.

However, having said that I plan to take part 2 because my company
will pay for it and it doesn't hurt to have it on the resume.

The course material you recieve IMO is worth the price of admission and
the certificates they send you are impressive on the wall at work(y)


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