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Old 07-03-2010, 04:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all,

I would like to get myself a Blackberry next week but I want to make sure I can get my company's emails on my phones. I'm currently using an iPhone on which I can get emails, but I've never been able to get on with the touch screen keyboard.

My company insist that I'm not able to get work emails on a personal Blackberry and everyone in my company that I've spoken to about this has confirmed this. However I've just managed to get them on my girlfriend's new Blackberry (9700 Bold) as I specified it was POP3 instead of Microsoft Exchange Server. I have what seems to be the usual issues - the BB just copies emails onto the phone so I have to read and delete everything twice. Plus it doesn't copy calendar appointments.

Is the fact that we (the employees) don't have BES on our phone that is stopping us access our emails through the Microsoft Exchange Server? There were rumours of my company having an exclusivity deal with Vodafone or that it was banned as it would compromise the internet security at the firm.

If so - if I pay for BES Express myself (seems to be an extra £10 a month) with Vodafone, will this solve the problem?

Thanks for all your help!
Mike

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Old 07-03-2010, 04:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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What your trying to do is possible with a BES service or as you discovered with a BIS service but your compromising the security of information your company may feel is private. I would be very careful your not violating a code of conduct policy or some other restriction. I would suggest they has a BES server on the company network and managed by company personnel to avoid any problems. This is not to imply using a commercial BES service is a security issue just one your company may not want.
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Waiting a while minute to bump your thread...wow.

Furthermore, unless you can get the Bes Express to link to the exchange server of your work(which doesnt seem likely) paying for BES express on your phone, won't make a blind bit of difference.
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THanks for the advice TSAC, I didn't realise BES was a physical server my firm would own. I will see if I can get on it.

Cheers also MIdnightDraven however the immediate reply wasn't a bump which is a slight assumption on your part, I just felt my first post was a little blunt and impersonal when asking for advice. But its a good point you make about not often having success with BES Express linking to my firm's exchange server. I can fully syncronise to my firm's email server with my iPhone in that emails and calendars are both completely synchronised - what do you feel my chances of success would be with BES Express?
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Many of us do not recommend putting your personal device on the company BES. They can lock it down and really limit what you can do via the IT Policy they push. Plus you need to make sure that you are aware of company policies and also what the BES Admin can and cannot see as far as usage goes.

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What can a BES Administrator “see” on my BB...

What can a BES Admin actually look at on BB?

What does BES see; what can be tracked/logged? - Port3101.org : Your BES Connection
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Try NotifySync or Astrasync. They will give you wireless sync of email, calendar, contacts, tasks with your exchange server just like you have with the iPhone. And you do not need any BES installed on the company's servers, and neither do you need a BES plan form your carrier.

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Hi All,
I'm new to these forums but have been told it the best place to start for some blackberry advice. I'm starting a new company (5 strong at the moment) and trying to sort out phones for my staff. For as long as I can remember i have had a nokia 1100 but am now making the leap and looking for a Smartphone that has a good email use....iphone I have been told is not the best. Have checked out the Blackberry and its BES/BESX and have been assured by Vodafone that this is the way to go. What confuses me is what the difference is between BES and BESX, if any at all? Also, I wanted to get a general feel of how happy you all are with your Blackberry's, mainly for email use? I'm looking for the pros and cons.

Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated. This is the unknown to me, and am making the leap from Nokia 1100 to the smartphone world. The leap of faith.....

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For a small company that is not likely concerned with aplying device restrictions, go with BESX. It's free. You do need an Exchange server though.
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I'm starting a new company (5 strong at the moment) and trying to sort out phones for my staff.
What e-mail system do you use in your company? BESX, which is free and recommended for SOHOs, works with MS Exchange officially, but also with the latest Kerio Mail Server and maybe others.

For a small company, it might also make sense to use a hosted solution.
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Thank you both for your replies. Sorry its been a while, but have been involved in biz set up politics. Ongoing...

Going back to BESX, CancuckBB, you say you need to have an Exchange Server? Is this something my service provider can set up for me (eg Vodafone) or would I need to invest in more tech that I have to maintain?

Hi freakinvibe, At the moment I have no email system set up at all....this is all starting from scratch. Thanks for the tip on Kerio, will do some research on it.

Also....what do you mean by hosted solution?

Once again, thank you for your replies and I apologise for my ignorance on this subject. I just want to make sure I get this right.
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The exchange server needs to be on the same LAN segemnt as the BES. It is something that would reside on a server in your facility.

It's not cheap. Depending on what type of service you have from your ISP, it may not even be possible as some ISP block port 25 from non-business grade services.
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