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Old 06-02-2011, 11:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I ran into an issue yesterday where my BES (running on Windows 2003 R2 64-bit) server told me as I was trying to apply a 5-pack of licenses that that would put me over the 15 user limit as I am currently standing at 12 users. I am running Exchange 2007 on another server. I have tried to upgrade to 4.1.7 before, but had issues, therefore why it's behind. So, to rectify the license limitation I called RIM support (which we have) and they told me a better option is to move to BESX. So, as I am looking, it looks similiar in nature to the components that exist on BES. What I am questioning is will there be a loss of anything important? Is there issues with Exchange? Does this have to exist on the Exchange server? If you've moved from BES to BESX, did you have any issues? Would you move from BES to BESX again if this came up?

Thanks for any insight you can give me, I appreciate it. I like the word 'free' but after paying for something, I'd like to know what potential headaches I'm going to have or what has been lost. Thanks.
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I would like to add, in terms of users I am referring to the Blackberry users, in looking at some of the information, wondering if the total number of Exchange mailboxes is more of what I am to take into consideration? If that's the case my number jumps from the 12 active + the 4 I want to add to an additional 50 users or so.
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Default Re: BES 4.1.6 to BESX?

if not using any fancy IT policies, then you wont be losing much at all.

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Thanks, I'll do some more reading. Is there any reason why I couldn't install BESX on this seperate server where BES currently resides, or do I have to install on Exchange? During this transition looks like it is handled sepeartely, will my users loose connectivity during this time? Thanks.

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you cant run 2 bes on same server OS.

You can use transporter to move users over to BESX and they will only be down for a few minutes and most wont even notice.
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Ok, so I need a seperate space. Do you recomment having it on the same box as Exchange? I only have 1 Exchange server running all roles, or should I find a seperate location?
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In reading more, guess it's still not recommended on Exchange, I think that's good. However; I can't think of where else to put this. I am guessing an uninstall of the existing BES and installation of the new BESX would be an option, but will require having all the users relink once the installation is done. Any thoughts to minimize downtime?
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BES Express will support 75 users when instaleld on exchange, just make sure you have at aleast 1.5 gig free RAM on it.

I would still prefer a dedicated server and you could move users to exchange on BES express, then back to dedicated after installing BES Express on it.
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That's an idea, I'd prefer not to disrupt service and have the users be involved much. Though, I have to find the step by step as I thought I've seen the need to wipe the handhelds themselves. Thanks for all your help by the way.
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