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StevenWild 09-12-2012 05:11 PM

BES outside my WiFi Network?
 
I have full BES functionality inside the WiFi network I have..
But outside on another WiFi network I have none..
Does any one know if AT&T(My ISP) block BES ports????
I have the ports 3101, 3443, 500, 4101, 4500 open to the BES server
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jamead1981 09-13-2012 12:47 AM

Re: BES outside my WiFi Network?
 
Do you have a full BES data plan from AT&T rather than a BIS or standard carrier data plan?

StevenWild 09-13-2012 10:44 AM

Re: BES outside my WiFi Network?
 
I have no BES/BIS data plan etc...
cant afford a contract to get the plans..

knottyrope 09-13-2012 10:59 AM

Re: BES outside my WiFi Network?
 
with no BlackBerry data plan you can only use local WIFI on LAN

StevenWild 09-13-2012 11:38 AM

Re: BES outside my WiFi Network?
 
Thank you

StevenWild 09-14-2012 08:52 AM

Re: BES outside my WiFi Network?
 
Can I ask why a BES data plan is needed?
I thought just like when using LAN the blackberry device tries to connected over WiFi, or is there a hard code block if no BES data plan exists?

Just as a side note. My ISP (AT&T) are blocking ports 3101, 500, 4500. i checked using yougetsignal.com

knottyrope 09-14-2012 09:02 AM

Re: BES outside my WiFi Network?
 
because out side of your network LAN, the device needs to contact RIMs NOC to transmit data and thats only possible with a BlackBerry dataplan.

StevenWild 09-14-2012 10:04 AM

Re: BES outside my WiFi Network?
 
ooh,
and after a little google reading, the 4 dots are the Devise connected to the RIM's NOC, which i assume this is done via my BES Server over my LAN.

knottyrope 09-14-2012 11:13 AM

Re: BES outside my WiFi Network?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StevenWild (Post 1787631)
ooh,
and after a little google reading, the 4 dots are the Devise connected to the RIM's NOC, which i assume this is done via my BES Server over my LAN.

Correct but that only happens if you have a dataplan out side of your LAN

geofftech 09-14-2012 02:38 PM

Re: BES outside my WiFi Network?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by knottyrope (Post 1787646)
Correct but that only happens if you have a dataplan out side of your LAN

Its sad they charge that much for port 3101.

knottyrope 09-14-2012 02:42 PM

Re: BES outside my WiFi Network?
 
why is it sad to pay for use of RIMs servers?

StevenWild 09-14-2012 03:40 PM

Re: BES outside my WiFi Network?
 
because of us cheap skates how cant afford contracts

freakinvibe 09-17-2012 09:18 AM

Re: BES outside my WiFi Network?
 
That will change for OS10 (at least for consumers), you can use simple ActiveSync over a standard data plan.

As for BES10, although it uses ActiveSync, you will still go via RIM's infrastructure, so I guess you have to pay.

knottyrope 09-19-2012 10:00 AM

Re: BES outside my WiFi Network?
 
How will a playbook work with out carrier (wifi only) and with BES 10?


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