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Old 09-12-2012, 05:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have full BES functionality inside the WiFi network I have..
But outside on another WiFi network I have none..
Does any one know if AT&T(My ISP) block BES ports????
I have the ports 3101, 3443, 500, 4101, 4500 open to the BES server
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Old 09-13-2012, 12:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Do you have a full BES data plan from AT&T rather than a BIS or standard carrier data plan?
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I have no BES/BIS data plan etc...
cant afford a contract to get the plans..
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with no BlackBerry data plan you can only use local WIFI on LAN
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Default Re: BES outside my WiFi Network?

Can I ask why a BES data plan is needed?
I thought just like when using LAN the blackberry device tries to connected over WiFi, or is there a hard code block if no BES data plan exists?

Just as a side note. My ISP (AT&T) are blocking ports 3101, 500, 4500. i checked using yougetsignal.com
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because out side of your network LAN, the device needs to contact RIMs NOC to transmit data and thats only possible with a BlackBerry dataplan.
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ooh,
and after a little google reading, the 4 dots are the Devise connected to the RIM's NOC, which i assume this is done via my BES Server over my LAN.
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ooh,
and after a little google reading, the 4 dots are the Devise connected to the RIM's NOC, which i assume this is done via my BES Server over my LAN.
Correct but that only happens if you have a dataplan out side of your LAN
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Correct but that only happens if you have a dataplan out side of your LAN
Its sad they charge that much for port 3101.
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why is it sad to pay for use of RIMs servers?
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because of us cheap skates how cant afford contracts
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Default Re: BES outside my WiFi Network?

That will change for OS10 (at least for consumers), you can use simple ActiveSync over a standard data plan.

As for BES10, although it uses ActiveSync, you will still go via RIM's infrastructure, so I guess you have to pay.
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How will a playbook work with out carrier (wifi only) and with BES 10?
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