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Old 05-21-2013, 01:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Greetings,
we have about 25 Blackberry devices in our company and we have a very very old BES server to manage them (BES release should be 4.1.4).
We would like to try new devices like Z10 or Q10 but we know that we need the new BES 10 in order to make them work, so i have some questions for the bes gurus:

1)As far as i know with BES10 we'll manage only the new devices and we'll have to keep the old Bes to manage "old" devices, can you confirm that?
2)It is possible to install on a single virtual machine both the BES10 and a BES5 in order to manage every blackberry we have with a single server?
3)We use Lotus Domino and with the new Traveler version (9) Blackberry OS10 devices seem to be fully supported, so i think that it's quite normal to think "Why should i use BES10 when i already have Traveler?"
I know that traveler is only a basic mail tool but maybe it should be enough for us, where i can find a list of the most important things that i can do with the BES10 over Traveler?
4)How difficult is the setup of a BES5 and BES10 server? I'm quite familiar with Lotus Domino administration and setup but i found our current BES server already up when i was hired and in these years i made just normal routine tasks on our devices.

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Hi,

2)It is possible to install on a single virtual machine both the BES10 and a BES5 in order to manage every blackberry we have with a single server?
No you obligatory need 2 servers.

3)We use Lotus Domino and with the new Traveler version (9) Blackberry OS10 devices seem to be fully supported, so i think that it's quite normal to think "Why should i use BES10 when i already have Traveler?"
I know that traveler is only a basic mail tool but maybe it should be enough for us, where i can find a list of the most important things that i can do with the BES10 over Traveler?
To manage the device. You have to think that the BES10 if a Mobile Device management server now that provide you to manage all the security on your devices. Here the rpesentation
http://fr.blackberry.com/content/dam...-Datasheet.pdf

4)How difficult is the setup of a BES5 and BES10 server? I'm quite familiar with Lotus Domino administration and setup but i found our current BES server already up when i was hired and in these years i made just normal routine tasks on our devices.
Both are simple if you run it on a clean server and you follow very weel taks of pre-installation

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I thought Blackberry was going to release a patch for BES 10 so you could install it on the same machine as BES 5. I saw somewhere the patch would be released in May/June, but I can't seem to find it anywhere.
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I don't know about any patch available now, but BES 5.x.x still needs it's own server and can't be installed on the same one as BES 10.

I heard something about an upgrade that would allow both to be installed on the same server but that was supposed to be out around May 2013. I haven't heard anything else.

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with BES 5.0.4 you can install BES 10.1 on it.
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I sit corrected!!

Care to post a link? I went snooping on BB's website, and couldn't find any info. That info applies to 5.1 as well?

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BlackBerry Enterprise Service 10 - BES 10 - Mobile Device Management - US


What's new in BlackBerry Enterprise Service 10 version 10.1

Regulated-level EMM control options for BlackBerry® 10 smartphones to enable compliance for government and regulated environments.
Secure Work Space option for iOS and Androidxxx8482; devices offering containerization, application-wrapping and secure connectivity.
Secure, behind the firewall connection to iOS and Android devices. No need for a separate VPN solution.
Enhanced reporting capabilities. Export capabilities allow further analysis using standard tools.
Single server deployment. All previous components can now be run on the same physical or virtual server.
High availability to ensure an uninterrupted service to users (BlackBerry, iOS and Android).
Faster and simpler administration with single sign-on.
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http://docs.blackberry.com/en/admin/...n_Guide_en.pdf

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You can install the BlackBerry Enterprise Service 10 on a computer that hosts a BlackBerry Enterprise Server 5.0 SP4
instance or BlackBerry Enterprise Server Express 5.0 SP4 instance.
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