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Old 05-10-2006, 08:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi folks,

i've been looking for information on how to perform a migration of BES for Lotus Domino incl. all its users from one server to another for a couple of days now. Unfortunately, I can't find any information on how to do it in my special situation:

The (old) server is currently running BES 4.0 for Lotus Domino with locally installed MSDE serving only a little more than 20 users. I know that I could just shut the BES-service down, install the new server and let the users perform the enterprise activation again, but I would prefer not to bother them with that kind of inconvenient stuff. Also, I'm not quite sure, if and what data the users might loose if I do it that way.

The new server (domino-2) is already up and running, and currently a member of a domino-cluster that consists of two servers (domino-1 + domino-2). The BES installation resides on a third server, that is not currently a member of that domino-cluster, but of the same notes domain.

Some articles I found indicate, that it's quite simple if one would just move the data from the old to the new server and rename the new server with the old server's name. Unfortunately, this is not an option in my situation. That's because the BES also has some other not BES- or Domino-related tasks that rely on its current netbios-name. Additionaly, I want to achieve that the new server (domino-2) retains it's currently used domino-server-id and not change it to the BES-server's id.

Other articles indicate that there is a way if you have a second (trial-)srp-identifier for the new server, so that both server's may co-exist for some time, while you just move the users from "a" to "b" somehow. I even already got a trial-srp-identifier from our network-provider, but I'm still quit unsure on how to proceed now.

If anyone might give me some hints on what the best way to migrate the server would be, if you can't move the domino-server-id to the new server and not rename the servers in the course of migration, I would be quite glad and owe you a beer

Cheers,
Patrick

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i would like the hear a solution to this also as i have somewhat of a similar issue
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Ah..already done this one..

Need to copy only the ff:
On your c:\Lotus\Data\Domino\BES
your notes.ini.

Make sure you note all the keys needed upon installation..

Copy those to the new server. Then decommisioned the old server.

Make sure same details of old and new when it comes to network properties..
c.name/ips etc..etc..

After the installation..copy those above to your new bes ..

Thats it..
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OK,

FIRST STOPPING OLD BES-DOMINO SERVER SERVICES

1) INTALL SOFWARE BES ON NEW SERVER DOMINO USING THE OLD SRP ID

2) COPY ALL DATA FROM LOTUS\DOMINO\DATA\BES

3)PASTE ON NEW SERVER DOMINO LOTUS\DOMINO\DATA\

4)run CMD COMMAND ON UR NEW BES-DOMINO

5)run nbesmigration.exe under folder TOOLS of sowfware BES4.0

LIKE C:\NBESMIGRATION.EXE -d "URSERVERNAME" "URDBNAME" -t D:\LOTUS\DOMINO\DATA\BES\STATE\ -l c:\logmigration.txt -w

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thank you for your replys! now i'm just in the middle of migration but suddenly had to realize that i unfortunately don't have the mentioned tool "nbesmigration". that's because we received our bes-installation files through download only - not on cd. the downloaded package did not include, nor install this tool... now i'm stuck. might anyone send me the file through email, please...!?


UPDATE:

just found the file after i manually extracted the downloaded installation file again...

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Make sure same details of old and new when it comes to network properties..
c.name/ips etc..etc..

After the installation..copy those above to your new bes ..

Thats it..
that's exactly what i don't want to do. i require to move the bes server to another server and not use the old servers details...
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Originally Posted by dahir.ali

5)run nbesmigration.exe under folder TOOLS of sowfware BES4.0

LIKE C:\NBESMIGRATION.EXE -d "URSERVERNAME" "URDBNAME" -t D:\LOTUS\DOMINO\DATA\BES\STATE\ -l c:\logmigration.txt -w


now that i found the necessary file, i tried to follow your advice, but that doesn't seem to work either. the migration-utility's log says:

Log started on 5/14/2006 at 16:18:25
ADO connection pool initialized (Provider=SQLOLEDB;Server=pdc;Database=BESMgmt;Tru sted_Connection=yes)
Blackberry Server CN=domino-2/O=XYZ: Not found in the database
Log ended on 5/14/2006 at 16:18:26

I assume that the migration utility only works in case the blackberry domain already consists of more than one server, both sharing the same configuration-database. It seems that the database on the old server must already be aware of the new server. Is that right?

what i also tried is to backup the configuration database on the old server and restore it on the new server. the problem then is, that it doesn't contain any configuration data of the new server so the services fail to start properly... i already thought about manually modifying the database entries refering to the old server's name by hand, and change them to the new server's name, but i guess that would lead to other problems elsewhere ...

but it shouldn't be that hard to figure out, how to f****** migrate it - or should it?
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Have you seen this article in the BlackBerry Technical Knowledge Center?
How To - Perform a cutover to another BlackBerry Enterprise Server
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[quote=d_fisher]Have you seen this article in the BlackBerry Technical Knowledge Center?
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thank you very much! that would have probably been the solution to my problem if i had been a little more patient
i only found a similar article describing the steps for bes + exchange. in the meantime, i performed the migration the hard way: installed the new server, and reactivated each handheld through the wire...
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