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Old 08-18-2006, 04:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm a newb to how Blackberry works...and Cingular customer service seems to be of NO help and have very limited knowledge of Blackberry Technology.

Currently, I have a company issued Blackberry, and they pay for my Blackberry. I want to just have one device for my Blackberry and phone, unfortunately my company will not pay for voice service. Soo...I think my only option to get both on one device is to go out to my existing Cell Phone provider and add Blackberry service to my plan and pay for it myself...which I don't mind doing.

My dilemna is...I can't let my company know that I'm using my own Blackberry to access company email. My company uses Microsoft Exchange and Blackberry Server. Is there a way for me even to get my own Blackberry service and still have access to my company email without having to let my company know? I don't have any access on the company server level to change anything. Is it necessary to have our company tech guys to push my Blackberry emails to my new Blackberry number? I guess I just don't understand if the Blackberry server needs to push my emails to my new Phone number (which means I would have to let my company tech guys know so they can push it to the right number)...or if it's possible to just sign up for new Blackberry service and copy the settings of my old company Blackberry to my new personal Blackberry (which means I don't have to let my company know).

Not sure if I'm making any sense...can I get some help please?

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Honestly I don't think that's gonna happen...just add the voice n have them foward u the bill...in order to get ur email from work you would to give them ur pin and if they see that the two are different they will wonder or prolly ask why ur registering a new phone...u should maybe ask if they by anychance would let you pay for your own device
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If you are really desperate then you could get your own personal voice + unlimited data plan with the same provider as your company uses and then flip-flop SIM cards. That way you would be able to receive data and do voice on your companies blackberry and saves you from have to pay for an additional device. You might need your tech guys to get one and the other working but I don't see how anybody could object to this approach.
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So the email are connected with the Blackberry device?...or the SIM card and Phone Number?

I need to kinda keep this covert from our Tech guys cause we're not allowed to use our own personal Blackberry for company email.
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If you're willing to pay for the voice service, why not discuss it with your employer? Perhaps, if you tell them that if they add the service they can take it out of your compensation, they'd be open to that. As it's more direct, I would try that first.

Also, I would be hesitant to try to end-run your employer if they want you to access mail only on the BB they provided you. Sure, there's plenty of ways to access corp mail, but it sounds like they have a level of paranoia that may get you canned if they discover your intentions, even if you can get your mail via home, kiosk, copy shop computers. Odd that they give you a tool to increase productivity but don't trust you to use it wisely...

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yeah...unfortunately, discussing with employer is not an option. just wondering if my Cell Phone service provider can just start directing the emails to a new Phone number/service. Is this possible?...or is my Company who is only in control of where the emails are pushed to?
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yeah...unfortunately, discussing with employer is not an option. just wondering if my Cell Phone service provider can just start directing the emails to a new Phone number/service. Is this possible?...or is my Company who is only in control of where the emails are pushed to?
Jeez you need to get a life, what's wrong with discussing it with your company unless you're trying to do something dodgy??

Anyway they way BES works is that your Blackberry PIN (an 8 digit hex number) is uniquely linked to your email account, and thus emails can be forwarded from your office account to your handheld. There's also the small matter of the envryptions keys etc, but I'll leave that as you're obviously a newb. There is no way your cellphone service provide can change the destination that emails will go to - in fact the message is fully encrypted on its passage thru the cell carrier.

Unless you get your IT dept to allow you to forward mail to an external accout (a breach of many company's policies), and assuming the'yve locked down your machine so you can't install desktop redirector the ONLY way this will work is by getting some support from your IT guys. If your a large company with >100 Berry's then it's likely there is a policy that says no to non-company provided equipment. If you're a smaller company then the probably wont care and will tell you how do it. Note you might have to put up with the company's IT pollicy once you're on a BES which might prevent you from web-browsing, installing apps, or even text of Pin to Pin messaging.

Being nice to your BB tech support guy - like buying them a beer or two might help as well...
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