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Old 08-30-2006, 12:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question n00b... should I install BES Express on our SBS 2003, or dedicate an old desktop

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I am the IT manager/project manager here for a small construction company, and I am getting a 7100i tomorrow. I am the only one in the office using a BB, and would like full syncronization with my current network setup. From what i have read here on the boards, it seems like BES Express is my best option, however I am a little hesitant to install it on our new server running Small Business Server 2003. In a few posts, users mentioned that BES Express doesn't take up much juice, and could run on old hardware.

So my question is two fold...

Should i recycle an Pentium 3 desktop sitting in my office to run BES Express just for me, or should I attempt an install on my SBS?

or, should i just pay some 3rd party bes host....

Thanks and please be gentle...

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I'd go with the workstation. MS recommends you not load MAPI clients on an Exchange server. BES is a MAPI client. Also, SBS is a different animal. The less extra software you run on it the better.
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does the workstation need to have it's own account on the network?

has anyone approached their BB solution this way?
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I'm a big fan of the BES Express. I've installed it on a few SBS 2003 servers. I've only had one occasion where it failed. RIM suggests you install it on a different machine than the exchange server (see blackberryexpress.com)
You can also install it on an XP workstation that is part of the domain.

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Hello,

I am the IT manager/project manager here for a small construction company, and I am getting a 7100i tomorrow. I am the only one in the office using a BB, and would like full syncronization with my current network setup. From what i have read here on the boards, it seems like BES Express is my best option, however I am a little hesitant to install it on our new server running Small Business Server 2003. In a few posts, users mentioned that BES Express doesn't take up much juice, and could run on old hardware.

So my question is two fold...

Should i recycle an Pentium 3 desktop sitting in my office to run BES Express just for me, or should I attempt an install on my SBS?

or, should i just pay some 3rd party bes host....

Thanks and please be gentle...
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I wouldn't recommend installing it on an XP workstation. You can put it on a workstation machine with server software loaded.
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so i can't just add a out of service desktop to the sbs network and install bes express on it?

am i just better off using BIS and just plugging the BB in using USB when i'm at my desk?

sorry if I seem ignorant... i really appreciate the help
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I'd put it on the XP workstation. You can always reboot it without kicking everone off the server if you need to troubleshoot.

BlackberryExpress: Blackberry server on XP?
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I'm looking at installing BES and unfortunately the SBS2003 box is the only viable option as all clients (there are only a few) are laptops so I'd have to commission a new box to put it on otherwise.

If I try to install it on the SBS box and it fails, can I be pretty sure of uninstalling it with no adverse effects? I'm terrified of nuking the server :(
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Yup! Make sure you take a backup beforehand though please
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I'm looking at installing BES and unfortunately the SBS2003 box is the only viable option as all clients (there are only a few) are laptops so I'd have to commission a new box to put it on otherwise.

If I try to install it on the SBS box and it fails, can I be pretty sure of uninstalling it with no adverse effects? I'm terrified of nuking the server :(
Personally I'd buy a $200 desktop PC running XP Pro from ebay and use that. Not worth the risk of nuking the SBS surely. it will work fine for a small number of users (5-6) but you'll find you might need to re-boot it every couple of weeks.

Discliamer: this is not a supported configuration by RIM
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Hi there,
this my first post, and rather that start a new thread, seeing as my situation is very similar to the OP's i thought i'd add to this thread.

DerekN: i followed the link you posted about installing BES on XP Pro. I've installed the adminpack.msi and apparently need to install System Manager only from the Exchange cd.
My query is; Without doing all of that, yesterday i managed to install BES up until the part where you input your SRP identifier and licence. clicked Next, but then it came up with an imapi error (can't remember exactly what it was now). Apparently it needs imapi32.dll, which i found on the web, but was 3 times the size of the file i already had and 3 years older so i didn't bother replacing it and cancelled the installation.
Any ideas as to what i should do, or will following the info on the link sort all that out for me?

Thanks.

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You need MAPI32.dll; back out of your install and install all the pre-reqs prior to starting the install.
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Hello,

I am the IT manager/project manager here for a small construction company, and I am getting a 7100i tomorrow. I am the only one in the office using a BB, and would like full syncronization with my current network setup. From what i have read here on the boards, it seems like BES Express is my best option, however I am a little hesitant to install it on our new server running Small Business Server 2003. In a few posts, users mentioned that BES Express doesn't take up much juice, and could run on old hardware.

So my question is two fold...

Should i recycle an Pentium 3 desktop sitting in my office to run BES Express just for me, or should I attempt an install on my SBS?

or, should i just pay some 3rd party bes host....

Thanks and please be gentle...
Installing BES express on SBS with Exchange is fine.

Technically it is a client, but not in the same way as Outlook so it won't harm anything.

Recommendation is on a separate machine, mainly for supportability and other troubleshooting reasons.

Please do not use XP, use a server class OS.

As for the account, you do need a dedicated "BESAdmin" account because there are specific permissions needed to ensure full functionality.
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