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Old 11-28-2006, 10:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I am not a Blackberry Pro, so pardon the lack of knowledge on details. I was asked to develop a process for removing blackberry accounts once the users are removed from the Domino environment. My search in this forum and elsewhere indicates that the BES handles new users, and user moves with some integration to Domino Directory. Why doesn't it automate removal of a user as well...?

OR does it and is there something we are missing. My thought is that once a user is removed from the domain using ADMINP the BES should through a scheduled process remove the user (or flag the account)
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BES user delete function should not delete the user from Domino Directory at all; it is supposed to be a BES function. Domino has it own function to remove user and it involves AdminP.

For the benefits of all, just want to highlight that you need to remove the BES user first prior to deleting user from Domino Directory. Else, this process will break.
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... the direction of my questioning was more... if a user is removed from the Domino Environment, it is likely that they should/must be removed from the BES environment as well. The BES realizes the user is gone from the directory and generates an application in the Windows Log (user not found in directory).

So based on your response I guess the answer is No, the BES does not integrate with Domino on user removal, in either direction. So if an admin removes a user from Domino the subsequent removal from the BES requires manual intervention - unless somebody wrote some spiffy code to automate this.
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... the direction of my questioning was more... if a user is removed from the Domino Environment, it is likely that they should/must be removed from the BES environment as well. The BES realizes the user is gone from the directory and generates an application in the Windows Log (user not found in directory).

So based on your response I guess the answer is No, the BES does not integrate with Domino on user removal, in either direction. So if an admin removes a user from Domino the subsequent removal from the BES requires manual intervention - unless somebody wrote some spiffy code to automate this.
The same for BES for Exchange. It would be nifty to have a tool that upon deleting the user's AD account, as also linked with Exchange, would also delete the associated Blackberry user account.
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... the direction of my questioning was more... if a user is removed from the Domino Environment, it is likely that they should/must be removed from the BES environment as well. The BES realizes the user is gone from the directory and generates an application in the Windows Log (user not found in directory).

So based on your response I guess the answer is No, the BES does not integrate with Domino on user removal, in either direction. So if an admin removes a user from Domino the subsequent removal from the BES requires manual intervention - unless somebody wrote some spiffy code to automate this.
This is a problem that I occasionally run into with MS Exchange. The employee is removed from AD. Meanwhile, the Blackberry account remains active, thus causing errors for that user on the blackberry server until that specific handheld is removed.
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Always keep in mind, BES doesnt integrate with Domino, its only an add-on / Third Party software on top of the server install. When you do terminations, it goes by the address book. When processing a termination, the mail file is not automatically deleted is it? No you have to select it and delete it yourself, so why would you want domino to interfere with BES User deletion? This may end up causing more problems than solutions.

However, in the future, if they are integrated properly it would be nice to have an all in one solution, which I understand what is great...but at the time, not possible.
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Always keep in mind, BES doesnt integrate with Domino, its only an add-on / Third Party software on top of the server install. When you do terminations, it goes by the address book. When processing a termination, the mail file is not automatically deleted is it? No you have to select it and delete it yourself, so why would you want domino to interfere with BES User deletion? This may end up causing more problems than solutions.
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- Yes you can have a Notes mailfile automatically deleted when terminating a Notes account via adminp.
- Adminp is an open architecture that allows 3rd party products to write their own Adminp type requests for use in their own plugins. Rim could use something like this for termination requests and removal from BES
Creating a custom Administration Process Request Handler
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