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admin4bes 11-30-2006 12:45 PM

BES 4.x on VM
Hi forum,

Does anyone know if RIM supports versions of BES on VM? Is anyone running BES on VM?



||||||| 11-30-2006 01:05 PM

If you read the install guide, you can run BES 4.1.2 and newer on ESX version 2.5.2

bertiebassett 11-30-2006 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by admin4bes
Hi forum,
Is anyone running BES on VM?



yes large numbers of tech support teams in carriers have been running BES on VM for a while now..

admin4bes 11-30-2006 06:20 PM

Thanks for the reply.

noname 12-01-2006 05:39 AM

"large numbers of tech support teams in carriers have been running BES on VM for a while now"... I would presume these are test servers with a few users? I would not run my large-scale user-base production on a VM. Yes it can save cost, but an unrecovervable disaster can be costly too. Just like the virtual cyber space is full of unexpected, I prefer the real world... my 2cent worth comment.

bertiebassett 12-01-2006 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by noname
... I would presume these are test servers with a few users? .

Yes - sorry should have been more explicit. We do have a customer with one main BES runniing on VMware with over 200 users and they seem happy enough however.

boma0021 12-01-2006 06:26 AM

we are running 800 users with no problem since 1 1/2 years on vm. we now moved to esx version 3 - no prolem at all

noname 12-01-2006 06:32 AM

boma0021, do you mind sharing with us your hardware and software configurations for your virtual environment setup? 800 users, pretty awesome!

boma0021 12-01-2006 08:20 AM

esx 3.0.1
4 * DELL PE 2950 with 16 G RAM / 2 Dual Core 3.0 0Wodcrest
4 way Cluster with Failover

Beside the BES we having some other stuff running on that maschines
Orcale / SQL / Test SAP R3 Systems ...

we have setup up three BES server on that esx. two production one test server.
400 users on each production server with state db replicas for our BES failover on the other servers....

thats all

noname 12-01-2006 05:23 PM

Thanks for sharing, boma0021. Any hiccups when you move the users from 1 BES to the other? MDS for web browsing enable for all 800 users? Is your Attachment service a remote dedicated one? Or all your BB services installed on each BES? Just wanna know if you have actually distributed the load of BES processing... Care to share again?

boma0021 12-04-2006 02:06 AM

no problem, all services running on each machine. MDS for Browsing is enabled. User move is our failover. We have the state db replicated between the two servers. One server down we make the move, works pretty well. A normal user move brings a ton of problems - it just don't work right - we figured out that with a domino clustered state db, after a move both server try to write into the db. the end is a trillion replication conflict documents and a not working account. if one server is down everything runs smoothly.

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