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Old 03-29-2007, 03:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Currently I have a BES 4.1.1 running on a Win 2003 server with dual cpu and 2 GB of them ram. Totally overkill for my org as I only have about 30 BB users. I want to perform a Knife-Edge cutover to a lesser box.

A little searching via RIM's site and I was able to get RIM's recommendation for a BES server but I want to verify with you folks in the real world on what realistically will work as a BES server for our small org. I'd be more than happy to move BES over to a standard PC running XP therefor freeing up my server for other chores.

OS question: According to RIM you need a Win server based OS; 2000/2003. Is XP totally out of the question here?

Memory question: RIM states 1.5 GB for BES to be happy. However, on my current BES server I noticed that BES wasn't using more than 256 MGs and it appeared to be happy. Would a PC with 512 MGs be sufficient?

Again, my whole goal here is free up my current server for other chores and put a spare PC to work with BES.
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Memory question: RIM states 1.5 GB for BES to be happy. However, on my current BES server I noticed that BES wasn't using more than 256 MGs and it appeared to be happy. Would a PC with 512 MGs be sufficient?
I'd leave it on the box you have. Ordinarily the BES won't use much RAM, but the attachment service will increase that significantly when users are opening attachments so I'd leave it where it is. I really wouldn't consider running a BES with 30 users on anything less than 1.5 GB or RAM.
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I agree. Leave it where it is...XP really only works for upto 5 devices, and is not officially supported at all, so if it goes wrong you will be on your own.
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Thanx for the responses!

However, I have no choice but to transfer BES as that particular server has be designated for a more critical role.

It also just occurred to me that I should have been a bit more descriptive with my original question; Provided if I had enough memory, would a desktop PC be sufficient enough to run BES? If I load up 1-1.5 gigs in a PC would it be up to task to run BES 4.1.1?
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Thanx for the responses!

However, I have no choice but to transfer BES as that particular server has be designated for a more critical role.

It also just occurred to me that I should have been a bit more descriptive with my original question; Provided if I had enough memory, would a desktop PC be sufficient enough to run BES? If I load up 1-1.5 gigs in a PC would it be up to task to run BES 4.1.1?
Running BES on a Non w2k3 server OS is not supported by RIM or any other official suppliers of BB support (in the UK for example support is via carrier). If you choose to do so then you risk not being able to get ANY support for the BES if you have an issue moving forward, so potentially it could be down for 2-3 days..

If your management team are happy to have a non-supported solution and one with potential a large outage window to save the couple of thou on buying a replacement sever let them make that decisions. And get the response in writing and save it somewhere (CYA time) - but I wouldn't want to be in your shoes if i didn't / doesn't work / falls over or otherwise screws up. The only time I've ever run on XP is for no more than 4-5 users where EVERYONE understood it could fall over at any time and there was no SLA on it.

Plus you've got to factor in your aggro / time moving all that stuff across. say your worth $500 per day then 2 days of your time is worth $1000. Then lets' say the CxO Level is without BB for 2 days with an issue in the future - thats go to be worth $5000

Spend the money on a new Server!!

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I wouldn't do that. If you are determined to run it on a hopped up workstation, at least put Server 2000/2003 on it. Its a mistake though if your BB operation is critical. Workstation parts have a much shorter lifespan - especially if they are running 24/7. Trying to run BES on XP with 30 users is just plain a bad idea. XP doesn't manage memory as well as Server and you will be rebooting regularly due to memory leaks even if you do have 1-2 GB RAM.

When I started here, they had our BES on a workstation with Server 2003, but we lost hardware and then we put it on a real server (a hand-me-down, but server grade hardware) and it has run flawlessly for the past year.
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Thanx to all for the replies!

Looks like I'm going install Server 2003 on a beefed up workstation/old server with approx 1-1.5 GB ram. Then do a knife-edge cutover.

Currently BES is running on a dual cpu rack mount with 2 gb of ram and server 2003. Total overkill for 30 non-critical BB users. This current BES box will then be our new Citrix server.

A few of you mentioned that I should keep BES on the current box and leave be. That's all fine and well but in our environment we will never ever ever have more than 30 users period. Also we do not consider our BES as mission critical. In the grand scheme of things, our network is way small with under a 100 total users. Small potatoes compared to the networks I normally work on(5000 PCs and up).

Oh, If I don't get the new Citrix server running with zero hardware expense, I'll be looking for work :(

Again, thanx all.
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