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Old 06-05-2007, 11:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I am trying to start up my own server, and selling blackberry's. This maybe a loaded question, but any help would be much appreciated.
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Old 06-05-2007, 12:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't even know where to begin with this one, or if this even a topic which should be discussed here.

There's so many things that would be involved with this type of setup that I can't even begin to explain how complex it would be.

Do you have any BES experience at all?
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I had to look up BES... I am serious about doing this though, I'm not afraid to learn. Whatever you could input now or when you have time would be great.

If this isn't in the right spot, I will move it promptly.
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I had to look up BES.
I admire your ambition, but I believe you're in way over your head.
If you didn't know what BES is... then there's no way you should be setting one up, let alone starting a business selling BES services.
I would suggest that you go to Blackberry.com and look up what they offer in the way of training classes.
Once you have some training under your belt, maybe you could look for a job as a junior BES administrator and spend a few years learning the ropes.

I don't recommend that you jump right in and start your own business without having at least a few years of "real-world" experience with BlackBerry and the technologies involved with successfully running a wireless network.
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Also read up on Microsoft Exchange and other enterprise backend e-mail systems.
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S2KGuy: What does your business plan say you should do at this point?

If you don't have one, do the proper due diligence on the paperwork and business plan and all your questions will be answered... as well whether or not you are ready to do start that business.
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The lack of a solid business plan would lead me to believe that this endeavor is doomed from the start.

On the other hand, I wouldn't say that it's impossible for someone to learn to admin an exchange or BES box - it's not exactly rocket science. The M$ Knowledge Base, Google, Petri.co.il and some T support from RIM will cover 99% of the issues one might encounter.

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Thanks Penguin, NJBlackberry, JSanders, JGB.

You have brought a lot of light to my question. Thanks again for answering so fast and helping Me out.
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Well for a glance at what you WOULD need if say you were hosting this out of say your basement:

A dedicated IP address, high end cable connection would suffice
Network switch/router
Windows Server 2003 box (2gb min memory)
Exchange 2003 / 2007
BES 4.1

You didn't mention if you were going with Exchange only or the scale of users you would pursue? So if say I ran a service like this I would charge at least $100 per month to be house on the infra (not including the carrier charges)

Mailstreet does this but I don't have their latest pricing.
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I checked recently, and Mailstreet charges $9.95 a month.
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S2KGuy--good luck and don't let anything I (can't speak for the "we") said discourage you or deflate your dream.

My best business advice I have learned the hard way over the years (and I started my business in 1990 and am still in business):
Make a plan that works, and work your plan. If you can't make your plan work on paper first, it is about 99% unlikely you can make it work by the seat of your pants.
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$9.95 ouch .. hard to compete with that.

A dedicated IP alone would run you $75-150 a month so you'd need a good amount of users to make a profit on this.
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What kind of training would you all recommend for having just a basement server? Maintenance and changes for the server.
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What kind of training would you all recommend for having just a basement server? Maintenance and changes for the server.
'Training' for firewall config, OS issues, AD stuff and Exchange

Google, Petri.co.il, ExpertsExchange, Slipstick and the MS Knowledge Base

'Training' for BES

RIM Knowledge Base, various RIM Installation & administration guides, and this forum.
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Old 06-07-2007, 02:23 PM   #15 (permalink)
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lookup hosted BES solutions, contact RIM and they will provide you training on hosted BES setup.
if you are not technical person, hire or contract or partner a technical person and take care of business side urself

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