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Old 06-17-2007, 05:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a personal BBpearl using BIS and another 7290 on BES with bunch of restrictions(no browser no 3rd party apps) for work. I'm tired of logging 2phones everyday.

My question is, if I add BES on my pearl account and connect it to my work's Blackberry Enterprise Server, will the BES policy for my work going to take over my BB Pearl?
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Yes, it will "take over" your Pearl. And there is nothing you could do against it.
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Yes, it will "take over" your Pearl. And there is nothing you could do against it.
Thank you so much.


Guess I have to log 2 phones everyday. That sucks for me, Oh well
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Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry 9000: BlackBerry8100/4.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)

Unless of course you have a friend in the IT department who can give you a different IT policy.
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Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry 9000: BlackBerry8100/4.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)

Unless of course you have a friend in the IT department who can give you a different IT policy.
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Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry 9000: BlackBerry8100/4.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)

Unless of course you have a friend in the IT department who can give you a different IT policy.
Looks like I have a friend in our IT department (even better he is the manager ), but he is not familiar with setting the IT policy in such a way that I can add POP3 addresses to my BES account.

Who is kind enough to give me some advise that will help me point my IT department in the right direction.

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Looks like I have a friend in our IT department (even better he is the manager ), but he is not familiar with setting the IT policy in such a way that I can add POP3 addresses to my BES account.

Who is kind enough to give me some advise that will help me point my IT department in the right direction.

thanks
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Don't put your friend in that position.

The next IT audit willn flag the 'rogue' device, and your friend will have to answer why he breached company security for you. You could both end up being fired.
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Despite the current restrictions, you shouldn't have any problem connectiong your personal accounts (POP3 or others) via BIS.

Login to the BIS page from a non-managed device or PC, and configure the BIS on your BES handheld to get all of your personal stuff.

They can't stop it - all they can do is route the outbound messages on your personal account thru the BES.
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As I wrote before, "my firend" is in charge of the IT department. And he is open to adjusting the security policy to enable me and other users to add BIS to our BES account, because he is interested in adding this possibility for his users.

I only need somebody to point me in the right direction. He will than decide if the company can change the policies and what are the consequences for security and such.
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As I wrote before, "my firend" is in charge of the IT department. And he is open to adjusting the security policy to enable me and other users to add BIS to our BES account, because he is interested in adding this possibility for his users.

I only need somebody to point me in the right direction. He will than decide if the company can change the policies and what are the consequences for security and such.
Your friend has to create a new IT policy on the BES that has the correct settings to allow the BIS services and third party browsers if he is not comfortable with how to do this since he is the manager he can have the BES admin create this or you can both view this article from RIM on how to do this

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once the new policy has been created push this to your device to overwrite the existing one, again the BES admin can help or read that document.

Then all you should have to do is have your carrier provision your BES device for both BES and BIS usage. Once this has been done you log onto your BIS admin site and follow the change handheld procedure and update the PIN and IMEI with that of your BES device, this will push your BIS service books to the BES device allowing you to receive both your BES and BIS mail on the same device and change between DESKTOP and INTERNET services for sending mail.

I hope this helps.

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Check out the Policy Reference Guide

and look specifically for BlackBerry Internet Service. Great document, keep a copy of it.

If you like Excel better, get a copy of this piece of artwork from jibi ... 4.1 Policy spreadsheet
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Thanks HDAWG and Lamo for al your hints.

I have studied the reference guide and the excel file. In both I find only one policy that mentiones BIS; the "Firewall Block Incoming Messages" policy.

When modifying this policy, such that it permits BIS messages to pass through, will it also allow me to set up my BIS account with my provider (Vodafone Netherlands)

At the moment it is not possible to set up a BIS account, I get an error message right after I give my new user name/ password. When click on next, for the next page it will say: "The system encountered an error. Please try again". However trying again will only repeat the error :(

thanks and have a nice weekend!

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