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Old 05-26-2005, 05:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Gents,

I have a funny question that I couldn't find exact answer for.
I'd like to install BES 4.0 for testing purposes.
As the final set up would be like this I would do the following:
- Separate BES server inside the network
- Our existing Exchange2003SP1 as the mail server
- Separate DCs of cource (native Windows 2003)

My question here is:
What do I need to install on the following elements:
- BES hardware itself (planned to install: W2k3SP1+Exchange Admin Comp.+MDAC28+BES)
- Exchange Server (planned to install: ????????????????? have no idea, some docs refer Messaging Agent that I don't know how to install)
- DCs (Exchange info is stored in the AD, I assume BB info shall be stored in AD)
- User management workstations (upgrade to dsa.msc/System Manager ????? unsure)

Please advise !
10x in advancec
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Gents,

I have a funny question that I couldn't find exact answer for.
I'd like to install BES 4.0 for testing purposes.
As the final set up would be like this I would do the following:
- Separate BES server inside the network
- Our existing Exchange2003SP1 as the mail server
- Separate DCs of cource (native Windows 2003)

My question here is:
What do I need to install on the following elements:
- BES hardware itself (planned to install: W2k3SP1+Exchange Admin Comp.+MDAC28+BES)
- Exchange Server (planned to install: ????????????????? have no idea, some docs refer Messaging Agent that I don't know how to install)
- DCs (Exchange info is stored in the AD, I assume BB info shall be stored in AD)
- User management workstations (upgrade to dsa.msc/System Manager ????? unsure)

Please advise !
10x in advancec
ZImi
Hi Zimi.

I have installed a couple of BES version 4.

Your BES server needs to have the same OS and Service packs as your Exchange server.
Load the Exchange Manager on the BES server. Load the same Exchange Service pack on the BES server. Try use SQL instead of MDAC. You will also need Java Runtime Environment. Load Explorer 6.0 or better. Do NOT load Anti-virus or Outlook on the BES server. Then go ahead with BES 4.0 for Exchange. THere is also a hotfix out for BES 4.0. Don't know what it does yet.

Thanks.
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aossher,

Thanks for your quick answer !

Am I understanding right that: I do not need to install anything (RIM products) on the mail server, not even on DCs or Admin workstations ?

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Yep.

That is how we do it.
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Alan, cheers again, and let me have two more questions:
- Where do you administer then which users are BB users and how do you assign them the devices?
- If it is administered on the BES server, how the exchange will now what to forward to BES ?

Many thanks for spending your time with helping a BBNewbie
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Hi Zimi.

No problem at all.

The Exchange Manager is loaded on the BES. Part of the BES install includes a service called Blackberry Manager.

This application looks allows you to load the users from the Exchange onto the BES by making use of the Exchange Manager. You then assign the BB handhelds to the mailboxes / users.

The BES talks to Exchange by means of Mapi. There will be a MAPI profile for each user on the BES. These profiles are stored in a small SQL database. The BES will pull the mail from exchange, apply filters, compress and encrypt and send to the handheld. When the user replys from the handheld, the BES will pull the original mail from the Exchange, make the changes and then send it from the Exchange.

I hope this answers your question!!

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Absolutely.
Thank you very much for dispelling my doubts.
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Hi Zimi.

I have installed a couple of BES version 4.

Your BES server needs to have the same OS and Service packs as your Exchange server.
Load the Exchange Manager on the BES server. Load the same Exchange Service pack on the BES server. Try use SQL instead of MDAC. You will also need Java Runtime Environment. Load Explorer 6.0 or better. Do NOT load Anti-virus or Outlook on the BES server. Then go ahead with BES 4.0 for Exchange. THere is also a hotfix out for BES 4.0. Don't know what it does yet.

Thanks.
The BES does NOT have to be running the same OS as the Exchange server. The manuals explicitly state this. (At least it did for 3.6).

Anyhow, installation is involved, but the manuals walk you through it. They are not for IT newbies, you should know your way around Exchange and probably a command prompt.
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