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Old 08-22-2007, 06:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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On trying to setup a Blackberry on my new boss's laptop he stated that I had no need to install the Desktop Manager software on his laptop and that at his previous job EVERYTHING was wirelessly synced from the server (Email, Calendar, Address Book etc etc)

Is this possible, if so HOW!?

I was told to always install the Desktop Manager software, when setting up a new device.
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With older devices & BES you needed the BlackBerry Desktop Manager ... with 4.x software everything can be synchronized wirelessly. If you don't have a BES then you'll need Desktop Manager to sync and the redirector to deliver mail.

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With older devices & BES you needed the BlackBerry Manager ... with 4.x software everything can be synchronized wirelessly. If you don't have a BES then you'll need Desktop Manager to sync and the redirector to deliver mail.
We do have a BES which is currently on 3.6.7.12, until tomorrow when we upgrade to 4.1.4.

And the devices are 8100's and 8800's on Desktop Manager 4.2

How can you sync everything wirelessly?
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Check this out - Feature comparison of BlackBerry Enterprise Server versions for Microsoft Exchange

You get all sorts of new nifty things with 4.1 SP4!

Any questions on the upgrade?
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How can you sync everything wirelessly?
BES 4 and above introduces full wireless PIM sync.
It's all explained in the documentation for BES.

If you're not familiar with BES 4, then you might want to read up on it before doing your upgrade.
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Check this out - Feature comparison of BlackBerry Enterprise Server versions for Microsoft Exchange

You get all sorts of new nifty things with 4.1 SP4!

Any questions on the upgrade?
Yeah am worried ill screw it up hahaha.

Our supplier O2 UK, state that it should just be a process off:

Backup database
Export list of users
Take note of SRP Identifier and SRP License Keys
Take note of Database server and Database name

And then its just a process of running the setup file, pointing the database to the location where its saved (if it doesnt do this already) and then boom all should be fine and dandy
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Well honestly it is much like that; until something goes wrong.

In theory it is as simple as Task 1 on How to upgrade from BlackBerry Enterprise Server 3.6 to 4.0, and move to a new server

Download and read through the 4.1 docs like penguin recommended; how many users in total on the server? Just a single instance (if you don't know what an instance is then you've probably just got a single)?
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Did a 4.0.6 to 4.1.4 upgrade recently. My advice?
BACKUPS! Didnt need them in my case, but the knowledge it was there was quite relaxing. It's all a matter of point and click. The software will almost take care of itself in the process. It was a lot easier that I was expecting.
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Well honestly it is much like that; until something goes wrong.

In theory it is as simple as Task 1 on How to upgrade from BlackBerry Enterprise Server 3.6 to 4.0, and move to a new server

Download and read through the 4.1 docs like penguin recommended; how many users in total on the server? Just a single instance (if you don't know what an instance is then you've probably just got a single)?
Yes we just have one single BES server and around 32 users. Have someone to assist me throughout the process, so touch wood all should be fine, I hope!!!
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Eh, you'll be fine! Just found a wooden table too
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Yeah am worried ill screw it up hahaha.

Our supplier O2 UK, state that it should just be a process off:

Backup database
Export list of users
Take note of SRP Identifier and SRP License Keys
Take note of Database server and Database name

And then its just a process of running the setup file, pointing the database to the location where its saved (if it doesnt do this already) and then boom all should be fine and dandy
You can export all license keys - that's what i would prefer.
But if it will not screw up the DB, you'll be fine.
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