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Old 05-28-2005, 10:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok gurus.... I have searched and found nothing.... My company issues BB to people in corp position's they say that need them like directors and vps...so here goes I was not issued due to the fact they said sales mgr is not required to have one so I started with nextel 7520 as my own phone and such.... Is it possible to have the system bb admin add me to the system to receive my lotus notes email and such..... we use the att/cingular bb mine is nextel is there gonna be an issue ? can it be done do I need to add a special data package to my nextel plan can nextel bb and att/cingular bb co exist one the server.... sorry if this is standard questions or answers I just left sprint behind and joined nextel...
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Welcome! Yes, to all questions:

1) Yes - first you will need the BlackBerry Data Plan from Nextel on your 7520.
2) Yes, the System Admin can add you to their BES (BlackBerry Enterprise Server)
3) The BES does not care what carrier is use, so mixing ATT/Cingular and Nextel on one server is not an issue.

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Welcome! Yes, to all questions:

1) Yes - first you will need the BlackBerry Data Plan from Nextel on your 7520.
2) Yes, the System Admin can add you to their BES (BlackBerry Enterprise Server)
3) The BES does not care what carrier is use, so mixing ATT/Cingular and Nextel on one server is not an issue.

Good luck!
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do I need to sent it to him to program I am in Tx he is in PA

or just send him the pin

can OTA programming be done?

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The answer is - it depends. If they have BES v4, they can provision it over the air. If not, you will need to load Desktop Manager, on the CD that came with the BB or downloaded from www.blackberry.com. If they are not on v4, it can not be done OTA. In any event, you should not have to send them the BB.
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Just to note, if your company has a policy concerning who gets the BlackBerry and who doesn't, its likely that they will not use a $100 client access license for your BlackBerry. Usually when they set policy, its probably best not to try and get around said policy - they are set for a reason. I'm not sure how they are on policies and such like that, but we do not allow those who have tried to skirt around our executive-level policy onto our BES (the ones who are aware of a BES in our environment and seek to get their own then email in requesting to be added). While the CAL is pennies in a bucket to a lot of companies, especially those with large deployments of BlackBerry, some may not agree and consider it another individual cost that the average BlackBerry owner may not consider. It just all depends on how they view their policy. If its in place to save them the money on the monthly service fees, then it may be a different story, assuming they are fairly relaxed concerning the grey area of a policy such as the one you stated in your original post.
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Just to note, if your company has a policy concerning who gets the BlackBerry and who doesn't, its likely that they will not use a $100 client access license for your BlackBerry. Usually when they set policy, its probably best not to try and get around said policy - they are set for a reason. I'm not sure how they are on policies and such like that, but we do not allow those who have tried to skirt around our executive-level policy onto our BES (the ones who are aware of a BES in our environment and seek to get their own then email in requesting to be added). While the CAL is pennies in a bucket to a lot of companies, especially those with large deployments of BlackBerry, some may not agree and consider it another individual cost that the average BlackBerry owner may not consider. It just all depends on how they view their policy. If its in place to save them the money on the monthly service fees, then it may be a different story, assuming they are fairly relaxed concerning the grey area of a policy such as the one you stated in your original post.

had no idea there is a $100.00 client fee, thought you bought the server you could add what ever..... RIM is getting over on corp america then.... nextel just released push email and the Enterprise server that push lotus and exchange email is free so I might look into that also.... that is INSANE to charge for client add on when you spend buckets of money for BES....... Thanks for your help again guys you rock....guess the BB is going back. hello java enable i830 with push email
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I don't see any difference in RIM charging for CALs versus Microsoft or IBM for Exchange and Notes CALs, respectively. Its just another way to be profitable off your product. Considering licensing programs are one of the primary sources of income for a long-term profitability model, I think this is fairly smart. Where I do see an issue is with their support programs now being based on BES plus total number of handhelds rather than one ballooned figure for all aspects of the BES.

But yes, $99 is the price for an individual CAL. Of course, you can usually get this at around $80 from other non-RIM outlets (or even cheaper on eBay, etc), as well as cheaper per CAL pricing when purchased in bulk (somewhere near $50/ea for 100). For Corporate America, if BlackBerry has been justified as a profitability tool for decision makers or anyone else, this CAL fee is not that viewed as much overhead in the grand scheme of things; although with smaller companies, I can see how this would amass to seemingly unnecessary extra fees forced down by a money-hungry giant.

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