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Default 12-03-2007, 12:18 PM

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Which version of BES do you have (4.0 or 4.1)? I forget what the license screen for 4.0 looks like, but for 4.1 if you launch the BES Manager and go to BlackBerry Domain > Global Tab > Account (under tasks) > License Management you should see the License Type.

When in doubt T-Support will be able to tell you exactly what you have.
I have version 4.1. I did look there, and there it is! Thanks for the help. Looks like everything is running smooth now.
   
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Default New Bes Admin here - 12-14-2007, 03:44 PM

So we have Enterprise edition 4.0 with 40 cal (1-20 and 2-10 CALs)

I just read this thread about the free BlackBerry Professional Software 4.1 for Microsoft Exchange and am now downloading it.

Can this be installed on the same on the same server as the enterprise edition?

BTW, we are planning to upgrade the 4.0 to 4.1 (eventually 4.2) in the next 30 days.
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Default 12-14-2007, 04:03 PM

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So we have Enterprise edition 4.0 with 40 cal (1-20 and 2-10 CALs)

I just read this thread about the free BlackBerry Professional Software 4.1 for Microsoft Exchange and am now downloading it.

Can this be installed on the same on the same server as the enterprise edition?

BTW, we are planning to upgrade the 4.0 to 4.1 (eventually 4.2) in the next 30 days.
Thanks in advance.
I don't think you can have two different versions of BES installed on the same server.
Also, there is no BES 4.2. 4.1.x is the latest.


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Default 12-14-2007, 04:08 PM

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Also, there is no BES 4.2. 4.1.x is the latest.
LOL, I think I knew that.

So What are my options because I need to test 4.1 before converting our server. And putting my blackberry on the latest and greatest sounded like a good idea!


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Default 12-14-2007, 06:27 PM

If you have TSupport you can call RIM and ask for a trial SRP and CALs.


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Default 12-17-2007, 02:42 AM

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You don't need TSupport, you just need BBAdmin!!!! See below:

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My bad, sorry for that. My Small Business came with 10 CALs. Was i just lucky?
No. You got the BlackBerry Professional Software, which comes with 10 licenses by default and you can go upto 30 users. Upgrading to Enterprise Edition can be done by installing a "service pack" which is free of cost.
   
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No. You got the BlackBerry Professional Software, which comes with 10 licenses by default and you can go upto 30 users. Upgrading to Enterprise Edition can be done by installing a "service pack" which is free of cost.
Just to avoid confusion this is entirely incorrect. BPS ships with 1 not 10 users, and if you want to update it to Enterprise Edition you'll need to purchase a "BES update key" which is basically a special 5 user CAL that alters all your existing CAL's from SBE to Enterprise Edition.


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Default License discrepancy - 01-07-2008, 11:38 AM

I was just going thru my licensing when I noticed that 240 licenses were used yet I only have 231 users in the BES. I have a total of 301 licenses to use.

Is Rim using the 'New Math' when figuring out the licensing? lol..

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Maybe something sketchy in your DB


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Question Cannot remove last license - 01-14-2008, 09:45 AM

Hello ALL:
I have BES for Exchange ver 4.1 that I installed on a fresh server and migrated the data over onto early last year. I had a problem with the license keys were a few gave me a "incompatible with the current keys" tye error. RIM helped me(for free) by informing me that my licenses needed to be installed in a specific order because we origianlly started off with the SBE version and then upgraded via the unlock license/CAL. Well, I just got around trying to do this and it will not allow me to remove the last key. The option to remove is grayed out when I highlight the key. Miraculously this time when I contacted RIM they were not as polite and were quick to point out that I do not have TSupport. If anyone has seen this before please help me out. By the way the last key is a newer key since I can't install any of the old SBE ones, incase you were wondering.

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Default 01-14-2008, 10:25 AM

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No. You got the BlackBerry Professional Software, which comes with 10 licenses by default and you can go upto 30 users. Upgrading to Enterprise Edition can be done by installing a "service pack" which is free of cost.
Just checked mine is most definitely a Small Business Edition with 10 cals. Think it was a case of RIM doing a "promotional" download for Domino. If I remember correctly they called it a "Quick Start Edition" and was on a time limited offer, the offer expired 31 Dec 2007. Glad i downloaded it when i did.


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Arrow Do you need seperate BES license for Router in DMZ? - 02-11-2008, 01:44 PM

Hi,

We would like to put our BES router into DMZ.

My question is do you need a seperate server license for the BES router?
   
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Is it possible to add a single license to an already existing BES Express with 1 (free) license?

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Default 02-12-2008, 02:59 AM

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We would like to put our BES router into DMZ.

My question is do you need a seperate server license for the BES router?
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Is it possible to add a single license to an already existing BES Express with 1 (free) license?
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Yes, but it depends on what type of licence you're adding.
To add another BES exchange user?


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Default BES Migration from Notes to Exchange licensing - 02-21-2008, 02:09 PM

My main question is if and how long can the two seperate BES servers "share" licenses? With the plan being to move the licenses when the migration is finished. I heard it is possible to "share" and it would work for 60 days. Any truth to that?

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Default 02-21-2008, 02:44 PM

What kind of licenses? SRPs? CALs?
   
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What kind of licenses? SRPs? CALs?
CALs. That brings up another question. We have 130 licenses. The original ten licenses have a key that starts with bescal, the rest start with besx35. I did not put up this server and do not know it's history. Is this because it was upgraded to an Enterprise server? Sorry if it is a noob question.
   
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Default 02-21-2008, 04:39 PM

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CALs. That brings up another question. We have 130 licenses. The original ten licenses have a key that starts with bescal, the rest start with besx35. I did not put up this server and do not know it's history. Is this because it was upgraded to an Enterprise server? Sorry if it is a noob question.
-0- days if you intend on staying in compliance with your license agreement.

RIM changed how they named their licenses from BESX35 to just BESCAL; thats all.
   
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Default 02-21-2008, 05:52 PM

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-0- days if you intend on staying in compliance with your license agreement.

RIM changed how they named their licenses from BESX35 to just BESCAL; thats all.
What is the compliant process to migrate to a new BES server on a different platform.

My reasoning for the temporary use of licenses on multiple servers was relying on the fact that all the users will be migrated or removed from the Notes BES and I will move the licenses over to the Exchange BES. In essence removing the Notes BES within a couple months.

I have a feeling that if we were "required" to purchase more licenses for a migration, BES would be phased out instead. Money would be spent on new "Mobile" devices.
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