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Blackberry OS 4.5 coming this week? -
02-04-2008, 05:28 PM
Can anyone else comment on the rumor that the OS 4.5 will probably be coming out this week some time?
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02-04-2008, 05:41 PM
rumor d'jour.
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02-04-2008, 05:45 PM
I can comment: I give it a 5 for originality, a 7 for execution, and a 10 for mass appeal.
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02-04-2008, 05:46 PM
Yea, but no beat, so we can't dance to it.
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02-04-2008, 06:00 PM
hahahhahahahahahaa
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02-04-2008, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ubizmo
I can comment: I give it a 5 for originality, a 7 for execution, and a 10 for mass appeal.
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I hope to change your ratings by the end of the week 
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02-04-2008, 06:05 PM
So....is it true then? End of week?
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02-04-2008, 06:08 PM
I've not seen anything that deviates from the early rumour about the end of February. What are you seeing that changes that?
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02-04-2008, 06:14 PM
And on which device model and carrier?
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02-04-2008, 06:19 PM
Yeah, I'm kind of curious as well. They have some nasty bugs right now still in the beta. If customers are to get these versions, which are current as of a week ago, then there will be some very unhappy people on the forums.
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and is widely regarded as a bad move.
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02-04-2008, 06:50 PM
It would have been nice to get it by christmas like the last rumor...didnt see that one happen, so not sure why I would believe this one either. Pretty much use the good ole rule of thumb, whatever you think, multiply by 5, and thats when its coming...so my prediction is May
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02-04-2008, 08:41 PM
Rob, from what I'm hearing from all carriers, you should be pleasantly surprised. The intent of RIM was to have the upgrade available when they launched BES 4.1 SP5 and shortly thereafter BIS 2.5. The initial date for the BES upgrade was November and then moved back to mid-February. It has since been removed from the Life Cycle portal, so it's status is currently in limbo. The latest beta OS versions we have are still OS 4.3.1. If there is a delay, it's fairly last minute and should not hold up release more than a month or so, in my opinion. If the delay ends up being fairly big, I wouldn't doubt it's release in the Asian market followed up by a few more rounds of QA and possibly an April release. It'll be out before May, unlike BES 5.0 (which was initially slated for a May 2008 release, per RIM's announcements last year at WES ...it's currently in pre-beta and has slipped no less than 6 months, possibly 9-12 months).
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and is widely regarded as a bad move.
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02-04-2008, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jibi
Rob, from what I'm hearing from all carriers, you should be pleasantly surprised. The intent of RIM was to have the upgrade available when they launched BES 4.1 SP5 and shortly thereafter BIS 2.5. The initial date for the BES upgrade was November and then moved back to mid-February. It has since been removed from the Life Cycle portal, so it's status is currently in limbo. The latest beta OS versions we have are still OS 4.3.1. If there is a delay, it's fairly last minute and should not hold up release more than a month or so, in my opinion. If the delay ends up being fairly big, I wouldn't doubt it's release in the Asian market followed up by a few more rounds of QA and possibly an April release. It'll be out before May, unlike BES 5.0 (which was initially slated for a May 2008 release, per RIM's announcements last year at WES ...it's currently in pre-beta and has slipped no less than 6 months, possibly 9-12 months).
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I hope that your assessment is correct, although coming from a past of working in Engineering, dates always slip and therefore, my guestimate was May...but believe you me, I hope that you are right and I am happlily surprised.
thanks for the response
rob
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02-04-2008, 09:27 PM
I talked to a rep from AT&T and he said he heard last week of March/first week of April.
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Update release -
02-04-2008, 11:16 PM
What do you all think that the new release will have that the existing version doesn't have?
Martin
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02-04-2008, 11:24 PM
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02-05-2008, 01:04 AM
How credible is this source? Some of us have been waiting for key features and are missing out on the "video" etc.
Is this for sure?
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02-05-2008, 01:06 AM
I'll wait til it's here...
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02-05-2008, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ssb16
How credible is this source? Some of us have been waiting for key features and are missing out on the "video" etc.
Is this for sure?
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Here's another one. Just for added support.
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02-05-2008, 08:48 AM
Spell check (H)
• BlackBerry Maps with Points of Interest (H)
• Improved media player with playlist support and automatic playlist generation (H)
• Voice note recording (H)
• Streaming support for YouTube and Sling Player (H)
• Bluetooth stereo music (H)
I have these features now and they freaking rock
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02-05-2008, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Jwilliams1008
I talked to a rep from AT&T and he said he heard last week of March/first week of April.
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So it is so easy to basically pick any cellular service company and use the version that they put out that I dont really care if it is ATT or joe shmoe...just would like to see it soon...if not now
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02-05-2008, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Dawg
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• BlackBerry Maps with Points of Interest (H)
• Improved media player with playlist support and automatic playlist generation (H)
• Voice note recording (H)
• Streaming support for YouTube and Sling Player (H)
• Bluetooth stereo music (H)
I have these features now and they freaking rock
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Does this mean no video? I thought the new OS was going to allow units like the 8300 to record video.
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02-05-2008, 09:34 AM
No, I have video recording as well.
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02-05-2008, 09:38 AM
I just hope that this new software...with all the hype it is getting, isn't riddled with bugs...that will be a huge let down.
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02-05-2008, 09:42 AM
john - There will be video recording for the Curve models.
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02-05-2008, 09:58 AM
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No, I have video recording as well.
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02-05-2008, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jibi
The latest beta OS versions we have are still OS 4.3.1
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i have read that there were more recent versions available. then again that was a comment from sum numbnutz on the pirate bay. I trust your post much more so than what I have read there. I have used the beta, and in my less than humble opinion, it's sweet... I'm hoping the final release comes soon.
And whoever said they spoke to an AT&T rep who gave them an estimate to a release date.... What store do you go to?? Cause everybody who works in my local AT&T stores rode the short bus as a kid. They know nothing about anything related to OS upgrades firmware upgrades...etc. I was even told that upgrading my OS would void my warranty. WTF?
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02-05-2008, 12:33 PM
Buying a cell phone from any carrier store is like buying a computer from a typewriter salesman. They know what it is, but thats about it.
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02-05-2008, 01:06 PM
I've also heard that the most current betas have some major bugs and some serious hour glass issues.
I'd be surprised if anything came out this week.
Unless some real work has been done on usability in the last week or so.....
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02-05-2008, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by intoxic8ed
i have read that there were more recent versions available. then again that was a comment from sum numbnutz on the pirate bay. I trust your post much more so than what I have read there. I have used the beta, and in my less than humble opinion, it's sweet... I'm hoping the final release comes soon.
And whoever said they spoke to an AT&T rep who gave them an estimate to a release date.... What store do you go to?? Cause everybody who works in my local AT&T stores rode the short bus as a kid. They know nothing about anything related to OS upgrades firmware upgrades...etc. I was even told that upgrading my OS would void my warranty. WTF?
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Didn't say he worked in a store 
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02-05-2008, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Dawg
Spell check (H)
• BlackBerry Maps with Points of Interest (H)
• Improved media player with playlist support and automatic playlist generation (H)
• Voice note recording (H)
• Streaming support for YouTube and Sling Player (H)
• Bluetooth stereo music (H)
I have these features now and they freaking rock
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great list, just to add to it, I heard about the possibility of being able to control Bass and Treble should also be there in the 4.5/4.3.1
Last edited by digitalextremes : 02-05-2008 at 02:29 PM.
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02-05-2008, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by intoxic8ed
i have read that there were more recent versions available.
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Looking at the torrent comments for the one you replied to in there, there's quite a few newer builds of OS 4.3.1 than it. That one was Release 36. The latest I've seen are Release 59. That's roughly 2.5 months of builds between those versions.
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Originally Posted by intoxic8ed
And whoever said they spoke to an AT&T rep who gave them an estimate to a release date.... What store do you go to?? Cause everybody who works in my local AT&T stores rode the short bus as a kid. They know nothing about anything related to OS upgrades firmware upgrades...etc. I was even told that upgrading my OS would void my warranty. WTF?
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The person who spoke to an AT&T representative would have spoken to someone, likely a technical engineer directly or one by way of their corporate account manager, rather than some nitwit in a store who has little to no information. Store personnel typically get information a) from internet forums such as BBF, b) internal training material (usually released very close to actual retail date), or c) internal computer systems (such as the case with SKU numbers for pre-releases; typically input a couple weeks prior to actual release for billing purposes). I would think it rare that store personnel, with the exception of very few who have connections back to a main office, would have any useful information further than 2-3 weeks prior to release date. That number may even be pushing it. With the phone representatives, they are generally outsourced and have hardly any knowledge or information on products they take calls on (I used to work for a company that had an umbrella company who did Tier 1 support and telemarketing for AT&T) - there is typically a small window for training and it's not all that great (exception being an iPhone, although many had never even seen an iPhone even after it's release).
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and is widely regarded as a bad move.
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02-07-2008, 02:14 PM
Man I wish this would come out already..!!!!
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02-07-2008, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by RobM
It would have been nice to get it by christmas like the last rumor...didnt see that one happen, so not sure why I would believe this one either. Pretty much use the good ole rule of thumb, whatever you think, multiply by 5, and thats when its coming...so my prediction is May
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Exactly,
I didn't see the xmas release so i did my multiplication, lol.
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02-08-2008, 10:13 PM
It floated around that it was going to be our christmas gift...guess not...but i hope the new rumors are correct...looks like it might be getting close with the dataviz announcement
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02-08-2008, 10:14 PM
week is gone now, guess this wasnt accurate
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02-08-2008, 10:17 PM
Wow. What a surprise.
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02-08-2008, 10:17 PM
john do you have to crush my hopes and dreams like that! 
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02-08-2008, 10:37 PM
i think some people will see OS 4.5.0 *this* week, but it won't be available to the public. rumors are that internal certification builds are being rebranded for the first time this week/next week.
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02-09-2008, 10:28 PM
bring it on
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