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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 39
Join Date: May 2007
Model: 8700
PIN: N/A
Carrier: T-Mobile
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06-11-2008, 04:51 PM
"application control policy/software configuration"
i just spent 20 minutes digging through the BES console....either we do not have such a policy/config enabled or I need new glasses. can you post a screenshot or something where I can check on this?
"You need to get your BES admin to delete the configuration of phone type (e.g. 8100, 8310, 8310) and change it to NONE."
I guess I need glasses cause I can't figure out where to delete the phone type either
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 78
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Ventura, CA
Model: 8310
OS: 4.5.0.153
PIN: N/A
Carrier: AT&T
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06-11-2008, 05:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Clark
Google Maps is only a problem if you are on a BES AND have an application control policy/software configuration.
BBMaps is only an issue if your carrier doesn't support it--like AT&T.
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Thanks AT&T!
BBMaps obviously still not working over here, but GMaps is working fine.
Just upgraded to the latest 4.5 this morning, still using Google Maps 2.1 and its watching me walk around the office at work still..
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 52
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Tacoma, WA
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.239
Carrier: TMo
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06-11-2008, 09:09 PM
Couldnt get Google Maps to work on the 8300 curve with 4.5.0.42. I found an old version 1.4.5 of gm and it works fine. I will stick with this one until the problem gets fixed. The 8300 has no gps. So it hangs.
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 33,164
Join Date: Jun 2005
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.250
PIN: s & needles
Carrier: of swine flu
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06-11-2008, 09:20 PM
That's not why it hangs. It hangs because of the reason I posted above. I use Google 1.6.4 for now.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 52
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Tacoma, WA
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.239
Carrier: TMo
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06-11-2008, 09:39 PM
I'm not on BES. I am on BIS.
Thanks for the headsup. I found the 1.6.4. It works.
Last edited by dgy2k1 : 06-11-2008 at 09:48 PM.
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 33,164
Join Date: Jun 2005
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.250
PIN: s & needles
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06-11-2008, 09:45 PM
It shouldn't hang then. I have an 8320 with no GPS and mine works fine when I remove the policy. Did you purchase your device new or was it used? Is it possible it's ever been on a BES? If so, then you can easily remove the IT policy and should be able to use the latest Google Maps. It's also possible that the permissions are set wrong. You can reset the permissions prompts so that it asks again.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 52
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Tacoma, WA
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.239
Carrier: TMo
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06-11-2008, 09:50 PM
Yes I purchased it used. And yes its possible that it might have been on BES. The IT policy is set to default. I just found it. How do I remove it??
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 52
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Tacoma, WA
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.239
Carrier: TMo
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06-11-2008, 11:19 PM
Thank you, thank you, thank you. You're are an angel.
dee
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 33,164
Join Date: Jun 2005
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.250
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06-11-2008, 11:27 PM
Now if I could only get mine fixed. 
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 52
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Tacoma, WA
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.239
Carrier: TMo
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06-11-2008, 11:53 PM
LOL. Sorry.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 16
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Chile
Model: 8100
OS: 4.5.0.110
Carrier: EntelPCS
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06-12-2008, 04:18 PM
OK, after wipe and install .42, connecto to BES and download and install Google Map Mobile, it work fine.
Thank to all.
Now testing all other stuff.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 99
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: NYC
Model: 8310
Carrier: AT&T
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06-17-2008, 09:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OrionXBeta
Theres another easier way to get BBMaps to work.
1.) Download the BBMaps software from RIM, youll need to fill a user information page before the link. It doesnt have to be a real email address. ( Download )
2.) Run Apploader and remove any traces of BBMaps currently on your phone
3.) Extract Files to the OS directory and replace any duplicate files. Make sure you copy whichever ones its asking to replace beforehand as well just to be safe.
4.) Run the AppLoader application and choose the supplied ALX file and then continue the install.
Now I tried this and received the "no additional applications designed for your device" which Ive been getting for everything anyways. But I continued to the next page and the apploader already grabbed that ALX file because there were two Blackberry Maps options to choose from and install. I checked the details and chose the one that had all of the modules that were in the BBMaps ZIP file from RIM.
If you do what was listed above you will have BBMaps no matter what carrier or OS youre running.
Im currently running a Curve 8310 on AT&T with OS 4.5.0.37 with no issues
Enjoy 
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This method worked perfectly for me running 4.5.0.42.
Thanks!
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 144
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Lancaster, PA
Model: 8310
Carrier: AT&T Cingular
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06-17-2008, 11:09 AM
This is still killing me. I can't get my network folks to drop the policy...now even 2.0 Google maps doesnt work for me. I miss my google maps!
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 55
Join Date: Apr 2008
Model: 8310
OS: 4.5.0.102
PIN: N/A
Carrier: AT&T
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06-17-2008, 10:03 PM
Anytime bud, I suggest anyone interested try this method as its great software that opens up the whole GPS feature for ATT customers
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 144
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Lancaster, PA
Model: 8310
Carrier: AT&T Cingular
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06-17-2008, 11:04 PM
Hmmmm, tried loading the bbmaps per your instructions Orion....no luck. The app loader saw both after i had cleaned everything out....nada.
Loaded via apploader - i see it on applications, but no icon or way to kick it off.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 203
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Florida
Model: 8310
Carrier: at&t
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06-18-2008, 01:49 AM
Go in and delete the service book for BBMaps. Then remove them completely from the applications list on DM. "highlight, and click delete".
Reboot the device. Connect to DM, and re-install from the downloaded copy..
This method worked for me. The newer version of maps that comes with 4.5, has to be servicebook controlled. And the older version does not. When you remove both from the DM's install list, and replace it with the downloaded version, it should make it show up. Good luck...
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 32
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Maryland
Model: 8330
OS: 4.5.0.170
PIN: 31eb2082
Carrier: Verizon
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06-18-2008, 08:31 AM
I think I will pass on Google Maps until there is a better solution, my BES Admin is not likely to make these changes for me. The downgrade/upgrade is way too much work. Hopefully the next version of Google Maps or 4.5.xx will play better together.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 144
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Lancaster, PA
Model: 8310
Carrier: AT&T Cingular
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06-18-2008, 09:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by justajason
Go in and delete the service book for BBMaps. Then remove them completely from the applications list on DM. "highlight, and click delete".
Reboot the device. Connect to DM, and re-install from the downloaded copy..
This method worked for me. The newer version of maps that comes with 4.5, has to be servicebook controlled. And the older version does not. When you remove both from the DM's install list, and replace it with the downloaded version, it should make it show up. Good luck...
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Trying now....good time to delete all those annoying MediaMall service books too. I'll edit back when I get it working. thanks...DJ
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 144
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Lancaster, PA
Model: 8310
Carrier: AT&T Cingular
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06-18-2008, 09:27 AM
Well, it worked, up and running.
First time using BBMaps, so i'll hold judgement till I get a more GUI time and experience using it. After so many years of relying on google maps there will be a learning curve but it looks like this will work.
I love using these apps in a diff city and in a rental car. Nice to have an extra set of instructions in a foreign place.
Thanks again for all the help!!!
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New Member
Posts: 6
Join Date: Apr 2006
Model: 8310
Carrier: AT&T
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Success! -
06-20-2008, 11:16 AM
I've been wrestling with the BES policy issue like everyone else. Google Maps hangs at 90% while asking permission to access the Radio and GPS.
Here's how I got around it. I had already backed up my 8310 before installing OS 4.5.0.37 from Vodafone.de. I used JL Cmdr to "restoretofactory" which removes all of the BES policies. I then installed Google Maps 2.0.2 and gave it permission to access the radio and GPS (several times). Tested it to make sure it was operational. Then opened Desktop manager and connected the BB to restore my data. The Enterprise Activation started on its own and I was prompted to set password, etc. which told me the IT policy had been restored.
Voila! (But what a pain in the a$$!)
I tried these same steps with GM v2.2.0 and although GM would open and locate me, within a few seconds I would receive a message that stated, "Google Maps requires a data connection... blah, blah, blah" and then it wouldn't update the maps.
Doug
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 51
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: DFW
Model: 8310
PIN: N/A
Carrier: AT&T
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06-24-2008, 12:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kmwbberry
So putting all this together...use Spamdumpsters instructions at the top of the post. Uninstall BBMaps through desktop mgr. Delete the service book. Go to the Blackberry Maps download site. Look at the bottom for the link to "push" the file to your computer. Pick a old version. I picked 1.2. Go through the questions...your name, bla bla bla..and you can download to your computer.
Go to desktop mgr. When I clicked "add"...and browsed to the location where I saved the old version...I then went down in the app list and there were two. I deleted both....then added again so I would know there was only 1 in there pointing to the old version. Installed...and it works perfect.
Thanks to all that post to help and allow us to figure this s*** out.
I love getting one over on AT&T when they try to take stuff away.
Hackers forever.
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That worked really well. I deleted the currently installed BBMaps before even adding the new one, and it worked just fine.
Here's the link to the BBMaps download page.
Now if I could just get a damn GPS signal indoors...
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 133
Join Date: Aug 2007
Model: 8120
Carrier: AT&T - 8120/8310, Sprint - 8830
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OMFG! Worked like a champ!! -
06-24-2008, 01:07 AM
Absolutely spot on! The link worked, the steps all worked...I'm on AT&T and I haven't been able to use BB Maps. I can now!
Thanks again!
Myk
Quote:
Originally Posted by OrionXBeta
Theres another easier way to get BBMaps to work.
1.) Download the BBMaps software from RIM, youll need to fill a user information page before the link. It doesnt have to be a real email address. ( Download )
2.) Run Apploader and remove any traces of BBMaps currently on your phone
3.) Extract Files to the OS directory and replace any duplicate files. Make sure you copy whichever ones its asking to replace beforehand as well just to be safe.
4.) Run the AppLoader application and choose the supplied ALX file and then continue the install.
Now I tried this and received the "no additional applications designed for your device" which Ive been getting for everything anyways. But I continued to the next page and the apploader already grabbed that ALX file because there were two Blackberry Maps options to choose from and install. I checked the details and chose the one that had all of the modules that were in the BBMaps ZIP file from RIM.
If you do what was listed above you will have BBMaps no matter what carrier or OS youre running.
Im currently running a Curve 8310 on AT&T with OS 4.5.0.37 with no issues
Enjoy 
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 31
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Mountain View, CA
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.250
Carrier: T-Mobile
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06-24-2008, 05:50 PM
So, I follow all the steps to get the old version of BBMaps on the BB but can't a T-Mobile person export the service books (like they do for Yahoo Messenger) so we can use the new improved version of BBmaps?
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New Member
Posts: 3
Join Date: Jun 2008
Model: 8310
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Rogers
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06-29-2008, 04:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spamdumpster
1. Google Maps. The issue reported is that the application hangs after you give it permission to access the radio information. Eventually, the app times out, and it's never usable. I experienced this as well. The solution I found is to downgrade to 4.2.2, install and run google maps, make sure it works, and then upgrade to 4.5 and let BB manager back up all databases, etc. This carries the permissions over and will allow google maps to run.
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so i downgrade to 4.2 and then run google maps and then make a backup and then upgrade to 4.5 and then restore the backup file??
im actually a BIS user and my gmaps freezes at 10%, ive set all the permissions to allow and ive done several batter pulls. any suggestions?
Last edited by UneeK : 06-29-2008 at 12:49 PM.
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New Member
Posts: 8
Join Date: Jul 2007
Model: 8100
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Carrier: Telcel
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07-04-2008, 03:18 PM
Where did you find the 1.6.4 version?? Can't find it anywhere!!
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New Member
Posts: 2
Join Date: May 2008
Model: 8700
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Carrier: Orange
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"Nav4All" - works with 4.5? -
07-05-2008, 10:55 AM
Hello - is the "Nav4All" working with soft. ver. 4.5?
Anybody tested?
D.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 77
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: New Jersey
Model: 8900
OS: 5.0.0.238
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Carrier: AT&T/BIS
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07-08-2008, 09:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by myk.dinis
Absolutely spot on! The link worked, the steps all worked...I'm on AT&T and I haven't been able to use BB Maps. I can now!
Thanks again!
Myk
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Got it worken aswell..... 
Last edited by BB Beast : 07-08-2008 at 10:12 AM.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 156
Join Date: May 2005
Model: 9700
Carrier: T-Mobile
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07-08-2008, 10:15 AM
I actually have a different problem. I can get Google Maps to fire up (4.5.0.46 on an 8320). BUT, the triangulation won't work, meaning, it won't find my location using the cell phone towers. I've upgraded to the latest version, but it just won't figure out where I am. Any thoughts?
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New Member
Posts: 3
Join Date: May 2008
Model: 8310
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Carrier: AT&T
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07-09-2008, 12:43 PM
After upgrading to OS 4.5, then removing the service book and BBMaps, moving the files over from the previous OS for BBMaps, it all works. Wasn't a quick fix, but thanks to all the great folks here in BBForums, it's working for me as well.
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New Member
Posts: 11
Join Date: Jun 2008
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07-09-2008, 01:14 PM
work me too  
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 161
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Orlando, FL
Model: 9000
Carrier: AT&T
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07-09-2008, 05:19 PM
Does anyone has a valid service book for BB Maps? If would you be kind enough to post it for us? Thanks
7290->8300->9000 Unlocked | AT&T BIS | OS 4.6
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New Member
Posts: 2
Join Date: Mar 2006
Model: 8820
Carrier: Rogers
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07-14-2008, 12:47 AM
It apears that if you are on BES, and have ANY software configuration assigned (even with no policy associated), Google Maps hangs. If the software configuration for the user is set to None, Google Maps works fine.
Anyone figure out how to get a software configuration to work with Google Maps?
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BBF Moderator
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07-14-2008, 12:49 AM
Wirelessly posted (BB 11020)

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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 21
Join Date: Mar 2006
Model: 8300
Carrier: att
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07-14-2008, 09:16 AM
I'm on BES. 8300 with beta 4.5.0.42.
I saw google maps got updated to 2.0.2 so I did that, without thinking about this thread. I had ignored this thread, because it's been working for me so far (because I had google maps at 4.2, then did the upgrade).
I came to this thread when google maps was now hanging. I wasn't thrilled about any of the options - downgrading or getting IT to remove me then add me back.
So I tried going into advanced options>applications>google maps>edit permissions and set everything to "allow".
That got it to work for me. It seems that 2.0.2 is a little slower to download, but it also seems to cache a bit more.
Have been wondering - if I delete 2.0.2 then goto backup/restore, will it allow me to add back 2.0.1 with all the proper permissions? I know it's a longshot...
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New Member
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07-14-2008, 02:55 PM
this doesnt work in my country
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07-14-2008, 02:56 PM
some error
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 139
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Irvine, CA
Model: 9000
OS: 4.6.0.282
Carrier: ATT
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07-19-2008, 03:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by myk.dinis
Absolutely spot on! The link worked, the steps all worked...I'm on AT&T and I haven't been able to use BB Maps. I can now!
Thanks again!
Myk
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Same with me. Worked for me 1st try. finally have BBMaps on 4.5 OS on my ATT 8310. 
Last edited by ams mike : 07-19-2008 at 03:54 AM.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 44
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Celina, TX
Model: 8110
PIN: N/A
Carrier: The "new" AT&T.... same old Cingular
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07-22-2008, 10:22 AM
I got BB Maps working per the link to download the latest from BB. I made sure to remove the lbs.alx file from C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\Shared\Loader Files\8110-v4.5.0.44_P2.7.0.61 and all files with LBS in them from the java folder there as well. Worked like a charm first time out.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 351
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Chicago, IL
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.231
Carrier: T-Mobile
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07-23-2008, 11:55 AM
Where are you guys getting the old versions of google maps from?
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