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Old 05-20-2008, 11:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I've read in a few threads that on beta OS 4.5 (1) people are having problems with google maps, and (2) AT&T people are having trouble with blackberry maps.

I have solutions to both problems. Tested on an 8820 running 4.5.0.18 and 4.5.0.27 and an 8310 running 4.5.0.37. Even thought Google Maps and BB Maps overlap to a large extent, I like to have both applications working on my device -- google maps has better search capability, bb maps can be set to track up
instead of north up, so it's better for navigating.

1. Google Maps. The issue reported is that the application hangs after you give it permission to access the radio information. Eventually, the app times out, and it's never usable. I experienced this as well. The solution I found is to downgrade to 4.2.2, install and run google maps, make sure it works, and then upgrade to 4.5 and let BB manager back up all databases, etc. This carries the permissions over and will allow google maps to run.

If this doesn't work for you here are some OTA links for an older version of Google Maps that will work (no cell triangulation, though):

8100:

HTML Code:
http://www.google.com/gmm/apps/v1.6.4/L1/gmaps-BlackBerry-8100_v4_1_L1.jad
83xx:
HTML Code:
http://www.google.com/gmm/apps/v1.6.4/L1/gmaps-BlackBerry-8320_v4_2_L1.jad?make=BlackBerry&model=8320%20v4%202&ver=v1.6.4&dc=Web_exp02
8700:
HTML Code:
http://www.google.com/gmm/apps/v1.6.4/L1/gmaps-BlackBerry-8700_v4_1_L1.jad

2. BB Maps. The issue is that the version of BB maps that comes with 4.5 requires a service book, which at&t refuses to push down (or, more accurately, pushes down blank service books). The solution, of course, is to load an older version of BB Maps. Replace the LBS.alx file with the file from a 4.2 installation and copy all of the modules (cod files) with "lbs" in them from the 4.2 installation to the 4.5 java folder. Then run app manager.

EDIT: After upgrading my 8820 from 4.5.0.18 to 4.5.0.37, then installing BBMaps from 4.2.2., I got an error message "Maps is disabled" when trying to open BB Maps. This was because the rogue AT&T "blank" service book was pushed down to my device after I upgraded, but before I replaced the 4.5 version of Maps with the 4.2.2 version. The solution is to uninstall BBMaps, delete the rogue service book (Options>>Advanced>>Service Books>> delete the one that says Blackberry Maps), then reinstall the older version of BB Maps.

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Old 05-20-2008, 12:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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nice I'll try that when I get home later on this afternoon, I'd love to have Gmaps 2.10 on my 8310
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Old 05-20-2008, 12:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I had the big blue location within 1700 meter message thing
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Old 05-21-2008, 11:56 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Question: I have an AT&T Curve, on the Canadian Rogers network. Will BB Maps work without problems, is it a provider issue or a software issue?
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I have a 8310 running 4.5.0.18 and this link for google maps works with the blackberries with internal GPS.
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http://www.google.com/gmm/apps/v2.1....=42&ver=v2.1.0
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2.1.0 works on 4.5.0.37 on the 8800.
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Old 05-22-2008, 11:17 AM   #7 (permalink)
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BB Maps trick works. Make sure you uninstall the current BB Maps before loading the ones from 4.2.
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I also had the problem, that Blackberry Maps was unavailible on a 8310
Tried to use the Download from Rim.
BB Maps did work, but GPS stopped working completely.

Zeroed the device and again loaded the OS. GPS again is ok, but no BB-Maps.
google, Nav4All etc. etc. are running fine.

on a 8800 BB-Maps and GPS is working fine - same OS version.

Looks like I have to wait until its finished or is there a fix for this ?
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Old 05-24-2008, 09:50 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I've read in a few threads that on beta OS 4.5 (1) people are having problems with google maps, and (2) AT&T people are having trouble with blackberry maps.

I have solutions to both problems. I tried these only on my at&t 8820 and 4.5.0.18, but I see no reason why they wouldn't work elsewhere. Even thought they overlap to a large extent, I like to have both applications working on my device -- google maps has better search capability, bb maps can be set to track up
instead of north up.

1. Googlemaps. The issue reported is that the application hangs after you give it permission to access the radio information. Eventually, the app times out, and it's never usable. I experienced this as well. The solution I found is to downgrade to 4.2.2 (I was using t-mobile 4.2.193), install and run google maps, make sure it works, and then upgrade to 4.5 and let BB manager back up all databases, etc. This carries the permissions over and will allow google maps to run.

2. BB Maps. The issue is that the version of BB maps that comes with 4.5 requires a service book, which at&t refuses to push down (or, more accurately, pushes down blank service books). The solution, of course, is to load the older version of BB Maps. Replace the LBS.alx file with the file from a 4.2 installation and copy all of the modules (cod files) with "lbs" in them from the 4.2 installation to the 4.5 java folder. Then run app manager.
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Just to let everyone know. BBmaps works and the gps chip is still functional on this mod. Cheers to the author for making this discovery. The only drawback I can see as of yet, was the reboot time was a little long.
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And what about me ? It seems it does not work all the time - Version is 0.37
There must be more then the servicebook.
My 2 devices are both on the same Carrier ( eplus/KPN ). Eplus does send a valid LBS service Book.

8800 works straight out of the box with G-Maps and BB-Maps
8310 does work with GPS and G-Maps, But when I install BB-Maps, the GPS functionality is lost, rendering all Maps applications useless.
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I just loaded 4.5.0.37 on my 8800 and BB map saids my device is not configured for BIS and BES access.
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2.1.0 works on 4.5.0.37 on the 8800.

Which cod file does 4.5 loads? There is Blackberry-40,-41,-42. Obviously thats for BB OS4.0,4.1,4.2
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Old 05-28-2008, 05:04 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Now getting a message: "Maps has been disabled." I will look into this.

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After upgrading my 8820 from 4.5.0.18 to 4.5.0.37, then installing BBMaps from 4.2.2., I got an error message "Maps is disabled" when trying to open BB Maps. This was because the rogue AT&T "blank" service book was pushed down to my device after I upgraded, but before I replaced the 4.5 version of Maps with the 4.2.2 version. The solution is to uninstall BBMaps, delete the rogue service book (Options>>Advanced>>Service Books>> delete the one that says Blackberry Maps), then reinstall the older version of BB Maps.
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Thanks a bunch. I finally figured BBMaps out. Now for Google Maps.
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I've not been able to make the above solution work for Google Maps on any 4.5 OS I've tried.
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Old 06-06-2008, 06:28 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I recommend you download GM2.2, it seems to be "snappier" grabbing GPS info. Once the tower-based location service support had launched, I had experienced a 1-2 minute delay before it zeroed in on GPS. This was the case with 4.1, 4.2 and 4.3, not just with 4.5. Download the new version as soon as you can!

Also, for the troubleshooters out there, had no issues w/Google Maps on 4.5.0.37 on my 8110 OR 4.5.0.1 on my 8310. When I first switched to 4.5, I was rocking Google Maps 2.0, then 2.1. I never had to do any tricky OS edits, etc. I hope this helps...
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I've not been able to make the above solution work for Google Maps on any 4.5 OS I've tried.
FYI - I downloaded the 2.2 update and it asked me to allow connections, but I was able to allow them. 8820 4.5.0.37.
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I have given up on Google Maps. Don't think it's ever gonna work with 4.5 on the 8300. There's no way to change the permissions. :(
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