Rebooted and it's good now. Not sure what would have caused it to happen. That's Beta for ya

At end of a full day with this now. I *do* like the UI improvements, subtle as they might be, as well as a few tweaked features (more control over profiles, etc). I'm disappointed that FB isn't working on it yet, but I can live without that. I'm more annoyed that links embedded in html emails aren't clickable -- likewise, they're not clickable in Viigo articles.

I can't click on links in Google mobile app search results. Not sure if that's Google's fault or the way it interacts with this beta release, but it's definitely disappointing that I can't use Google properly now. I've got 3.3.38 version of Google Mobile App installed, and just realized that 3.4.8 is available, so I'll give that a try and see if it works better under 5.0.0.100.

Rebooting now..back in a few mins with an update...

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(added after reboot / new install of google mobile app): No joy: still cannot click links in search results page with latest 3.4.8 build when using on 5.0.0.100 BB OS... (*sigh*)

Too much to ask to open the browser and use Google that way?

any word on when the next leak is coming?

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.110 hasn't leaked yet but it will soon.

I know this is a really early beta, and should expect issues. Just finding this a bit more buggy than I'm happy to deal with. Issues I continue to have include:
- Docs To Go no go
- Facebook no go
- No clickable links in Google Mobile App search results
- No clickable links in HTML email
- Also ran into trouble with stored phone numbers that use an embedded "wait" character. For example, my land-line voice mail dial in is comprised of several parts:
-- initial number to call -- then wait
-- then a "*" must be entered -- then wait
-- then my "mailbox" must be entered (this is my land-line phone number) -- then wait
-- then my password must be entered

I have this all set up in the phonebook entry in the blackberry, so I can easily check my land-line voice mail from the road. I do so by starting the dialing from the phone book: it connects then waits for the next part, I hit the trackball and it sends the next part, etc. until all voicemail system prompts have been answered.

I just tried this under 5.0.0.100, and ran into problems. It got confused, and got stuck sending one of the digits -- and kept sending a continuous tone. I could not interrupt or stop it, and finally had to resort to a battery pull and reboot.

To top it off, I installed what I recall to be 5.0.0.8 version of desktop manager along with Roxio (ugh) media manager. The Roxio install apparently put several items on my machine that seem to be eating up tremendous resources, and interfere with Outlook several times a day, causing it to freeze for several minutes at a time.

I love the new features in 5.x.x.x, but don't think it's worth the aggravation right now. Thinking I'll fall back to 4.6.0.250, not without some regret. But I need the whole environment to be a bit more stable if I'm going to use this for work...

EDIT: *sigh* -- hard to get rid of 5.0.0.x on the 8900. Considering now that I may just do without the parts that don't work yet, since I like the 5.x.x.x enhancements. Jury is still out on this, but as a start, I uninstalled Desktop Mgr 5.08 (along with Roxio), and installed 5.01 Desktop Mgr WITHOUT Roxio this time. The Roxio add-ins were eating my machine alive. We'll see how this version works.

Anyway -- it's 11:30pm, been a long day, and I'm too tired now to make a decision about downgrading the phone OS, so I'll wait till tomorrow to decide...

speed dial not working when in message screen!!!!

have to go to home screen for speed dial to work.

the only thing i can see so far is the Enterprise Messenger (LCS office communicator) icon is nowhere to be seen after install

Does anybody know, when comes official the 5.0 OS? thanks

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Anyone notice that you can't zoom in on pictures?

Weird -- I can zoom with 5.0.0.100 installed... it's a bit slow and tedious -- have to roll the trackball up quite a bit for zooming, but it does work...

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When I'm looking at a picture and hit the menu button there no zoom option.

OK -- mine is just like that too, when I look at a picture via the Media Player / Pictures option. No zooming on an existing picture. What *I* described was zooming in on a subject in the camera prior to taking the picture.

click the trackball to zoom in, hit the escape button to zoom out.

rotate is gone though.

Rotate IS there -- see below:

Interesting... I tried a few more keys with a picture loaded up in the viewer:
- "R" -- zooms in
- "W" -- zooms out
- "Z" -- zooms in a LOT in one click ("W" returns you to normal size in one click)
- "L" -- rotates the picture 90 degrees
- "N" and "P" give you next/prior pictures, respectively

Not sure how intuitive this all is, but it's nice to know the features are there...

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Ok clicking the trackball zooms in but the rotating thing doesn't work on my bold. The only keys that do anything are p and n

Clicking the trackball seems to activate those shortcut buttons (which I used to use before in previous versions). But viewing another picture, they're disabled again until you click the trackball to zoom in. Definitely something they were probably half done when they compiled this version.

Mine works if I'm viewing the message list. If I'm replying to a message, holding down a letter capitalizes it, like it always has.

Oh well.... I give up on 5.0.0.100 for now. Just too many points during the day where it freezes and requires a battery pull, or doesn't quite work right. It's been fun and I really like the feature enhancements -- and I can't wait to get a more stable version of 5.x. But for now, I'm done. I'm reloading 4.6.1.250 for now... :(

I'm still using it. Not having MSN sucks for sure but really not a big deal since there are so many other ways people can get a hold of me on it. I bookmarked the facebook mobile site which is actually QUITE well done so it's no biggy to have to use that for now. I just downloaded Viigo Alpha and it works great (so glad to have that back =D ) The only thing that's a bit annoying for me is that it s regularly reboots if I'm playing music over Bluetooth in my car. It's fine with headphones. The zooming issues aren't a huge deal for now. The speed of everything is way too good for me to give up this time. I'll be keeping it until the next one comes out or is hopefully released officially =D

Although I really liked .100 and all my apps worked for me, I went back to the latest official.
Nice to have more than a day battery life again

I've actually gained quite a bit of battery life since moving to this beta.

I just noticed another thing that's missing in this version. I used to be able to hold in a key and scroll to the left or right to get all the variations of that letter with all the accents on it. That doesn't happen anymore. Not sure if it was available in the last 5.0 beta but I know I could to it in 4.6. No biggy but they best be fixing it in the real release =P

better off waiting for the official release.

coolest thing i noticed, is that i can now connect to my work network... we use 802.1x w/ PEAP... before i used to always get "network deauthenticated client" but with .100 on my bold i can connect right up and use our wifi....

What sucks is that the media player freezes sometimes, after a reboot its all good... and sometimes it says it cant locate the sound files, that sucks too, but a reboot fixes it

I've been running it about a week and its not bad for a beta. I like the subtle UI upgrades and it seems generally a little faster. I haven't fixed the browser issue, which means a few 3P Apps aren't working, and I've had 2 reboots in a week. One small thing I've noticed is that SMS messages are abreviated and sometimes truncated. But more of my 3P Apps work with this 5.0 than the prior one. Battery performance isn't great, however.

Just scroll up or down while holding down the letter and it works.

Doesn't work for me. Scrolling any direction just scrolls the cursor away.

Found a couple more issues with it. If you have your alarm set for the same time that you have a calendar entry alarm, you get an uncaught exception in the popup ui.

Also, the speed dial is way too sensitive. I think it's linked to the repeat rate in the Screen/Keyboard options though. I always set mine to the fastest for when typing. I set it to Normal today and it appears to have brought the speed dial sensitivity down. Like almost every time I'd hit R to reply to a message, I'd end up calling Rogers (that's what mine's set to). Was very annoying. These two things definitely should not be linked.

That's a subtle one! I imagine RIM's software group *must* have a pretty comprehensive regression test plan, and they should also have an automated test platform that makes it possible to auto-run the regression tests before they roll out new releases. This is about the only practical way to catch the myriad subtle errors that are possible (such as the one you just reported).

That being said, I have to wonder why these errors are *not* caught before betas come out. I understand that there's no particular commitment on RIM's part to make the betas bullet-proof as they're not officially for public consumption. However I always wonder why, if RIM *does* have a thorough software QA program in place, such errors even wind up being in betas...

- Jon

Works for me -- if I hold the letter down and scroll either up/down or left/right, I get various choices. However... I'm seeing some interesting things here:

When I hold down the "B" key and scroll, I get "B", "b" and "i" -- when I SHOULD be getting an exclamation mark instead of the "i". Weird.

When I try with the "V" key, I'm offered an upside down "?", rather than the normal "?" it types when I use the ALT key.

Weird...

I wonder if it's because you're using an 8900 and I'm on a 9000. Maybe I'm missing a language file or something crazy

Here I am having the following problems

1. In the browser I'm only seeing options for HotSpot and MediaNet; all other options are gone. WTF is the difference between all of these anyway?
2. Small font next to message indicator and for time is rough looking

-t

It's got to be device specific. My Bold reacts the same as yours and differently from the 8900.

I'm pretty sure RIM should release their betas to the public and just keep an eye on these forums. ...although they probably do keep an eye on these for feedback.

I agree. It's a great way to get knowledgeable experienced users to exercise the interim releases and help discover bugs.

Man I haven't upgraded in what feels like ages! From what I am reading though, I will be waiting a bit longer; seems to be too many bugs just yet.

Oh well, back to learning Linux and MacOSX for now. Gonna have to reload Windoze on the ole laptop soon though. Looks like OS5 is getting closer to a somewhat stable "release".

Have you thought about running windoze and linux on a VM under OSX? Works very well for most purposes.

I know what you mean about upgrading the BB OS. I tried 5.0.0.100 for a while, and the bits of new features I saw were great, but the bugs were enough to put me off (first beta I ever backed away from!). So I'm back to 4.6.1.250, and now -- to my great disappointment -- it's official and I can't even find a 4.6.x.x beta to load! :(

*sigh*

I guess what I'm really looking forward to next is a more stable 5.x.x.x beta, so I can get back to the new features and better performance and have something a bit more stable. Where's my next beta????!!!

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This might be dumb but could you take the cod files for domething like bb messanger from 5.0 and put it in the 4.6? Did that make sense?

It could conceivably make sense -- but it would only be workable if all the system objects, methods, interfaces, etc that the BB Messenger routines invoke in the other files remain the same from version to version. Sometimes mix-n-match can work, but other times it simply blows up. Without being able to actually see the program code, know the interdependencies, or see the API's, it's pretty much a guessing game. If you have the time and patience to experiment, and you're prepared to use something like JL Commander to wipe your device and reload the OS if you brick it, then you might get there. It's not necessarily a project for the faint of heart, or something you can confidently do in a hurry.