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Question 7290 with T-mobile - 04-04-2005, 04:07 PM

I talked to t-mobie PDA support for a lot hours, but failed to get it working. I look through here and know at least one person has this working by talking to t-mobile. Can you help?

My laptop has xp prof with sp 2,
I have 4.0 on both desktop mgr and BB,
use wap.voicestream.com, com4,
use username and password for t-mobile web login,
plan: National Business Plan 1000 $59.99 1000 minutes
(35 each additional min.) Unlimited Unlimited 500 messages
(5 each additional message) with BB feature.

Error: keep getting 734.

Thank you in advance. -dale
   
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Default Recap on 7290 + cingular for prospective user? - 04-05-2005, 02:00 AM

Could those of you who are _currently_ able to use the 7290 with a Cingular plan please confirm if I (a prospective user of that combination) understand correctly what is spread out throughout various messages in this thread?

1. As of today, you are still able to use your 7290 as a modem to be online with your laptop, correct?

2. When you do so, you get speeds similar to those of a regular 56k modem?

3. If you have a Cingular voice plan plus an unlimited Express Mail Data plan, then using your laptop as described above does not consume minutes from your voice plan but it works as part of the the Express Mail Data plan, correct?

Thank you in advance,

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Default 04-05-2005, 09:27 AM

All,
Hello, just joined. First time caller, long time listener....er.....

Anyway, Just wanted to let y'all know that I got my 7100G working through Cingular after a couple of hours on the phone with the Cingular tech.

The settings are basically the same as outlined in the FAQ, but with a few modifications:

Starting at Step 8:

IMPORTANT SPECIAL CONFIGURATION STEP
Click Properties -> Advanced and add only ONE of the following Extra initialization commands with the appropriate carrier-specific APN Setting:

For Cingular:
AT+cgdcont=1,"IP","wap.cingular","",0,0

Then on step 9 "Add a New Internet Connection"
1. Click Next

2. Select "Connect To The Internet" then Next

3. Select "Set up my connection manually" then Next

4. Select "Connect using a dial-up modem" then Next.

5. Check only the Standard Modem (if prompted).

6. Give the connection a name such as "BlackBerry Modem", then Next.

7. On the next screen, pick one of the following phone numbers, depending on your carrier:
....If you use GSM/Cingular/AT&T/TMobile: Enter phone number *99***1#
(per the Cingular Tech the *** are pauses)


8. Click Next.

9. On the next screen, pick one of the following, depending on your carrier:

....If you use Cingular:
.........Username: [email address]
.........Password: CINGULAR1

10. Clear all checkboxes ("Use...when anyone..." and "Make this the default...")

11. Click Finish

Once the the connection has been created, check the properties page, Networking Tab, Settings: make sure that "Enable Software Compression" is unchecked. I have not played with this much, but my settings are set under the TCP/IP properties > Advanced > General tab, "Use IP Header Compression" is checked.

Also, under the FAQ heading "I use Cingular. It doesn't work!"
I asked about these options, and evidently they have been re-named.
I previously owned a Sony Ericsson T616, and used it as a modem, so I had the "Media Works" package on my account already. The cost is $19.99 for 1500 Text Messages, 300 MMS messages, and Unlimited WAP internet access.

I have reviewed my past Cingular bills, and I have used in excess of 20 MB, with no additional charges as shown on last month's bill:

Msg/KB
Included Msg/KB Billed Billed
Wireless Data InPlan Used Msg/KB Rate Total Charge
MEdia Works
MEdia Works WIX
Text Messaging 1,500 248 0.00
INTERNET XPRESS 20,615 20,615 0.00 0.00
Subtotal $0.00


Explanation for using the wap.cingular APN as opposed to the isp.cingular? According to the Cingular tech, there are three APN's that are available and provisioned on the GPRS network: 1) blackberry.net - used for connection and transport to the BES server. 2) wap.cingular - used for internet connections (browsing, etc.) from the Blackberry. 3) isp.cingular - used for all other services (Laptop Connect for example, which for unlimited service is $79.99!)

If you use the wap.cingular, it is tagged as WAP traffic, therfore billed as if the traffic originated from the browser of your Blackberry!

I have been using my Sony previously, and have had pretty good luck with it. I am now using my Blackberry with very good results. Matter of fact, I posted this message using my Blackberry as a modem!

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Default 7290 with T-mobile and Cingular - 04-05-2005, 10:53 AM

I can confirm that 7290 can be used as modem with Cingular. Just follow the instructions here.

As for t-mobile, I keep getting 734 error. I feel that this is casued by username and password. Can sb who get this work with t-mobile advise us how to overcome this?

Thanks. -Dale
   
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Default 7290 with T-mobile (update) - 04-05-2005, 11:49 AM

working now. the problem was caused by init string with mixed double quote. the following is right:

+cgdcont=1,"IP","wap.voicestream.com","",0,0

username and password are emty.

good luck. -dale
   
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Default Still wondering about charges aspect of 7290 + Cingular - 04-05-2005, 07:30 PM

Can someone from among the Cingular subscribers clarify, though, how the modem use figures into the Cingular charges. It does not use up minutes (right?) but works as part of the Unlimited XpressMail plan? But if one had the 4 MB XpressMail plan than the use as a modem would quickly put one over the limit? Or does the use as a modem not count toward the 4 MB?

Thanks in advance for clarifying these specifics.

Ludo
   
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Default 04-06-2005, 01:44 AM

It will quickly go over the limit. Do not use the modem unless you are on an unlimited plan.


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Default 04-07-2005, 07:46 PM

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I have just run into the same problem. It appears no one was able to give you an answer. Were you able to solve the problem?
I had the same problem as well. Basically, the issue is that the install creates a modem with such a default name (Standard Modem) that you don't think that it really did install something. This was with 4.0.0.30 and a 7290/Cingular.
   
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First Time Poster so be gentle....I am trying to install the modem for use when dialling up to O2 UK but I cannot manage to get Windows to see the device as a Modem. Is there anything I need to get running on the device before trying to install the modem drivers into Windows. I am trying to use the RimSerial.inf within Modem Drivers but this is saying there isn't any information. Could someone also point me in the direction of the correct Modem Drivers if there are any others that I need to use? Many Thanks, Ken
   
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Default 04-09-2005, 06:58 AM

The Cingular post from Rhinton is right on and my 7100g works great as a modem.
   
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Cool 04-10-2005, 12:28 PM

has anyone been able to successfully get the blackberry to work as a modem with an apple powerbook?
   
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Default 04-11-2005, 01:37 AM

No. But maybe ask the PocketMac people to make a driver.


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thanks for the tip. i have dropped them a line!
   
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Default blackberry data plan or MediaWorks - 04-11-2005, 09:58 AM

Do you have the blackberry data plan or did Cingular let you keep MediaWorks? Do you see GPRS or gprs on your screen?

I do what you do on a moto v400, and would be delighted if it'll work with no changes on the 7100g I'm about to get. I'll probably get the blackberry data plan because I want to use BWC.

Quote:
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All,

Anyway, Just wanted to let y'all know that I got my 7100G working through Cingular after a couple of hours on the phone with the Cingular tech.



Msg/KB
Included Msg/KB Billed Billed
Wireless Data InPlan Used Msg/KB Rate Total Charge
MEdia Works
MEdia Works WIX
Text Messaging 1,500 248 0.00
INTERNET XPRESS 20,615 20,615 0.00 0.00
Subtotal $0.00




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Default 04-11-2005, 01:00 PM

Actually I have both. When I was the call with the Cingular tech, I told him that I wanted that functionality, he said that I would be charged the extra cost of $19.99. He didn't understand why I wanted it, because supposedly the blackberry plan includes WAP access.

I won't receive my next bill until after the 21, but I will keep all posted here on the forum.

GPRS is on my screen.

R

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Do you have the blackberry data plan or did Cingular let you keep MediaWorks? Do you see GPRS or gprs on your screen?

I do what you do on a moto v400, and would be delighted if it'll work with no changes on the 7100g I'm about to get. I'll probably get the blackberry data plan because I want to use BWC.
   
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Default 04-12-2005, 06:01 AM

My 7100g on Cingular was working fine as a modem until up upgraded my pc to Windows XP SP2. I now get the dreaded 734 error. I tried redoing all the steps and recreating my dial out internet connection with no luck. Anyone else experience something similar? Any resolutions in mind?
   
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Default 04-12-2005, 11:17 PM

Just figured I would chime in:
"I couldn't find WIX Extended Internet either and I kept getting error 7?? ppp host terminated, then I upgraded to OS 4.0 and it instantly started working, thanks Mark and everyone else, you are the best, drinks on me if you're ever in Texas. Just FYI, I have the "data connect" or "laptop connect" packages on my phone number."
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I am running 4.0
   
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Default 04-15-2005, 01:53 AM

I have a 7100t w/ OS 3.8 and am successful using the modem function. I want to upgrade to OS 4, but have heard that I will lose this functionality. Can someone verify that this is true or not? Thanks!
   
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Default 04-15-2005, 11:28 PM

Hi folks,

First let me say a big Thank You to the people who have the time/knowledge and patience to figure these things out and then post them for all of us to use.

/SALUTE

Now on to my problem. I continue to get a 718 error, remote server took too long to respond or something to that nature. This ocurs after about 45 seconds of verifying the username/password. Now let me list a few things I have tried, in an effort to fix this error.

1. Reinstalled both the BB desktop manager and the Phone program, both downloaded from the TMO website.

2. Spoke with a level 3 BB/PDA specialist at TMO tech support, who after reinstalling/reconfiguring everything I had just done, suggested I play around with the APN string. After that advice he had nothing left to offer.

3. Took TMO's advice and played with a number of different APN strings to include ones that contained the "internet2.voicestream.com" option. This changed nothing.

4. Added the specific DNS settings, this also changed nothing.

For now I am at a loss and VERY frustrated, I switched from the IPAQ 6315 for the size and for the fact the Rep told me I could link it to my laptop as a modem and that TMO supported this. I made the mistake of telling my boss that I may have the ability to do this and he took the ball and ran with it. Now I/we are committed to sending daily reports with multimedia imbedded (mostly Power Point), to the Surgeon Generals Office. The ONLY option that allowed us to do this was using the BB as a modem on a laptop. So if anyone has any others suggestions that I haven't thought of, please let me know. I need to have this up and working by 0700 Sunday 17 April, 2005.

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Default 04-16-2005, 07:09 AM

Has anyonoe been successsful getting this working with Cingular on a 7100G running Microsoft SP2 on their laptop? I had it running fine until I upgraded and now I get Error 734 when it tries to verify my username and password. I am using

[email address]
CINGULAR1
   
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Default Cingular AT&T merge - 04-19-2005, 11:48 AM

Any one else having trouble as to which init string to use because of the merger of AT&T and Cingular

I have 7290 Ver. 4 DM 4 BES 4
   
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Default 04-19-2005, 02:38 PM

One of the suggestions I can say is to try installing the Rogers 4.0.0.219 instead of the T-Mobile 4.0.0.198 BlackBerryOS. I have heard of many reports that changing to a different version of BlackBerryOS 4 can fix the problem on select models of 7100 and 7290.


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Thumbs up YEAH! My 7100t Tmob works as a modem!!! - 04-19-2005, 04:32 PM

My Adelphia broadband died again yesterday, I got my 7100t 2 weeks ago to cover my ass, as most of my income is over the net (broadband always is dieing around here). Using BB browser I didn't have full ebay functionality, but could bid. Lycos email never connected, but yahoo and gmail worked fine. Paypal have very limited use, couldn't see who actually made payments or how much they were. Using BB as a modem is great says 115.2K, doesn't seem all that quick, but much faster than BB browser! Using XP sp2, did have error and blue screen, forgot to disable IP header comp. works fine now. I love it when stuff works like it should. Yes I am going to be pissed when tmob screws this up! Has anyone figured out how to get rid of tzones and tmobs bookmarks?
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Default TMO GPRS & using laptop berry modem - 04-19-2005, 06:54 PM

Quote:
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I believe it's the latency that's killing you. Do a quick ping to Google.com or somebody else and paste it here.
I'm having the same experience - thrilled to get it working first attempt - and then the crash down to the snails pace speeds. Anyone know of anything else in terms of PPP config / optimization that can be tweaked ??

Does anyone have or know if where we can get speed stats for TMO GPRS market by market or across the board ??

See below here for ping latency I'm getting. Also, my mobile originated SMS has been screwed up since I started using the berry as modem from the laptop. I can receive ok but not send. I keep getting a packet error - maybe its trying to send the SMS via GPRS but the connection wasn't closed out properly on the disconnect ?? I've also tried resetting a few times but that hasn't fixed it yet unfortunately.


Here's a snip on a ping to google using laptop and 7100T on TMO:

C:\>ping www.google.com

Pinging www.l.google.com [66.102.7.104] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 66.102.7.104: bytes=32 time=1082ms TTL=243
Reply from 66.102.7.104: bytes=32 time=899ms TTL=243
Reply from 66.102.7.104: bytes=32 time=878ms TTL=243
Reply from 66.102.7.104: bytes=32 time=828ms TTL=243

Ping statistics for 66.102.7.104:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 828ms, Maximum = 1082ms, Average = 921ms
   
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Red face 7250 Modem Blue Screen - 04-20-2005, 02:27 PM

Has anyone else had an issue with BSOD when trying to run diags against the standard modem (7250 attached)?

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Default Error 734 with Cingular using a 7290 - 04-23-2005, 12:02 PM

Just to muddy the water a bit more regarding this issue. I have been through the same routine as many others in this thread including the run around from the Cingular reps telling me I don't have this service, will need to add it and pay by the kB, Thank you for choosing Cingular, etc. etc...

I found out that when my account was first established (I have a BB through my company) that it was an AT&T Wireless service. So, before giving up, I reconfigured the modem using the AT&T Wireless settings on this site and it works!! This is contrary to everything the Cingular moron told me. So, for what it's worth, even though everything about my service says I use Cingular, the AT&T Wireless settings work fine and based on what the rep told me, I am not being charged because the service is not enabled on my account.
   
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Default 04-23-2005, 12:04 PM

Maybe I missed this in the setup instructions, but what was the Rogers phone number I enter, all others were listed...
   
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Default 04-25-2005, 07:29 PM

Quote:
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Has anyonoe been successsful getting this working with Cingular on a 7100G running Microsoft SP2 on their laptop? I had it running fine until I upgraded and now I get Error 734 when it tries to verify my username and password. I am using

[email address]
CINGULAR1
I was able to get mine working using

AT+cgdcont=1,"IP","wap.cingular","",0,0

but I am getting HORRIBLE throughput. I mean maybe 300 baud? Just the sparce login page to my isp webmail took 60 seconds. I pushed 100,000 bytes in 4 minutes of connectivity.

I have not contacted Cingular..so I do not have any of the features added that everyone speaks of in this thread. That could be affecting it?

I am just trying it with a basic unlimited BB plan and the configs from this site running XP SP2.
   
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I think I will try this in a different location and see if going from 2 bars to 4 or 5 improves the speed....doesn't seem this slow browing from the device though.
   
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Question 7250 as Modem with Verizon - 04-26-2005, 02:42 PM

I tried following the instructions for [User] Use BlackBerry As Modem For Laptop! [NEW VERSION 2.0] HOW TO: BlackBerry As Modem For Laptop.

I am a fairly new Blackberry user...

I was unable to get my 7250 (Verizon) to work. I realize that you did not have anyone that said it worked, I am just confirming that it did not work. i was able to follow mostly all the steps with no probelm, but when trying to use as modem, it just would not work. I had the 7250 hooked to USB and desktop manager was running. I was really hping the 7250 would work as a modem wirelessly but I would accept plugged inot device by USB.

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Default 04-29-2005, 12:04 AM

I was able to get a respone from the modem on a 7250 as shown below:


ATQ0V1E0 - OK
AT+GMM - 78
AT+FCLASS=? - 0,2.0
AT#CLS=? - COMMAND NOT SUPPORTED
AT+GCI? - COMMAND NOT SUPPORTED
AT+GCI=? - COMMAND NOT SUPPORTED
ATI1 - Manufacturer: QUALCOMM INCORPORATED
Model: 78
Revision: M6500C-cPhoton-3030 1 [Jan 10 2005 18:26:34]
ESN: 0x4C1D6E15
+GCAP: +CIS707-A, +MS, +ES, +DS, +FCLASS
ATI2 - Manufacturer: QUALCOMM INCORPORATED
Model: 78
Revision: M6500C-cPhoton-3030 1 [Jan 10 2005 18:26:34]
ESN: 0x4C1D6E15
+GCAP: +CIS707-A, +MS, +ES, +DS, +FCLASS
ATI3 - Manufacturer: QUALCOMM INCORPORATED
Model: 78
Revision: M6500C-cPhoton-3030 1 [Jan 10 2005 18:26:34]
ESN: 0x4C1D6E15
+GCAP: +CIS707-A, +MS, +ES, +DS, +FCLASS
ATI4 - Manufacturer: QUALCOMM INCORPORATED
Model: 78
Revision: M6500C-cPhoton-3030 1 [Jan 10 2005 18:26:34]
ESN: 0x4C1D6E15
+GCAP: +CIS707-A, +MS, +ES, +DS, +FCLASS
ATI5 - Manufacturer: QUALCOMM INCORPORATED
Model: 78
Revision: M6500C-cPhoton-3030 1 [Jan 10 2005 18:26:34]
ESN: 0x4C1D6E15
+GCAP: +CIS707-A, +MS, +ES, +DS, +FCLASS
ATI6 - Manufacturer: QUALCOMM INCORPORATED
Model: 78
Revision: M6500C-cPhoton-3030 1 [Jan 10 2005 18:26:34]
ESN: 0x4C1D6E15
+GCAP: +CIS707-A, +MS, +ES, +DS, +FCLASS
ATI7 - Manufacturer: QUALCOMM INCORPORATED
Model: 78
Revision: M6500C-cPhoton-3030 1 [Jan 10 2005 18:26:34]
ESN: 0x4C1D6E15
+GCAP: +CIS707-A, +MS, +ES, +DS, +FCLASS



I am with Telus. I was able to set up everything but got the error - 678. I did not enter anything under advanced (no apn string). Does anyone have anything else I should try?
   
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Default 7250 as modem (wired or bluetooth) - 04-29-2005, 08:38 AM

I have same issues. Looks like it will see the modem and then I get same error message...
   
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but I am getting HORRIBLE throughput. I mean maybe 300 baud? Just the sparce login page to my isp webmail took 60 seconds. I pushed 100,000 bytes in 4 minutes of connectivity.
That may unfortunately be typical, but some people have been able to push 100,000 bytes in approximately 30 to 60 seconds during good conditions. Not during peak period in a crowded downtown core, though.

You may wish to tweak your MTU slightly, as well as try using alternative DNS servers that may react faster.


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I am with Telus. I was able to set up everything but got the error - 678. I did not enter anything under advanced (no apn string). Does anyone have anything else I should try?
I don't think it'll work with Telus at this time. Maybe after the EV-DO upgrade, who knows?

Also, 7250 has no such thing as APN which is not used on CDMA networks.


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Question Ugh! - 05-02-2005, 10:57 AM

I'm new getting blackberry from having Rim950 for years and years and upgraded to 7250..

Went to my verizon store like 3 times they got no clue!

--- My email messages had been cut off. how can i change that???.

--- How to get the IP-Relay to work on my blackberry?.

--- I cant get my Gmail.com account forward to my blackberry


Hope you gurus will be a bunch of a BIG help for me today--

Basic and simple explaining wil be a much of a BIG help...

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Angry 7100t Modem Connection Question... - 05-03-2005, 10:04 PM

I have a 7100t, got it the first day it came out. I have never been able to get it running as a modem. I recently upgraded to 4.0, and thought I would try again. Im running this on a Dell D600, wth XP-Pro SP2

When I try to add the RIM modem to 'Phone and Modem Options', I browse to c:\Program Files\Commmon Files\Research in Motion\Modem Drivers\,

I get the following error:

'The specified location does not contain information about your hardware'

There are three files in the above folder: RimSerial.inf, rimserial.cat and RimSerial.sys

The .inf file starts with:

[Version]
Signature="$WINDOWS NT$"
Class=Ports
ClassGUID={4D36E978-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}
Provider=%RIM%
DriverVer=06/11/2004,1.1.0.2
CatalogFile=RimSerial.cat

Sort of funadamental to get this running I'm thinking ..

Any ideas??
   
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TM UK works with a 7290, dial string is +cgdcont=1,"IP","general.t-mobile.uk" username is user password is pass dial number is *99#

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Default 05-04-2005, 10:22 AM

Just adding my 2 cents...

Got Cingular in Atlanta to work quite well.

I followed Rhinton's suggestions above plus the original post for modem usage.

I also had to add MEdia Basic to my BB account before it would work. Without this - I kept getting Error 734. BTW - MEdia Basic is free when added to BB accounts on Cingular...
   
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BTW - MEdia Basic is free when added to BB accounts on Cingular...
This is great news. Are you paying $01/kb? Does Media Basic show up on your online feature list at $0.00?

How'd you find that out? The cingular reps I spoke too seemed very confused. I've gotten 8 different stories about this out of 8 tries.
   
 


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