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Old 04-14-2010, 01:46 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I must join my esteemed BES Admin peers in thinking there is a lot more (or a lot less) to this tale of woe you have spun for us. In my many years of experience with BlackBerrys, cell phones and wireless communications, there is no way possible for a person to switch devices & numbers AND still have it monitored/snooped/stalked by a 3rd party. I really don't care if RIM told you that it was possible. They probably just told you that to shut you up. Did you happen to get a case or ticket number? No? Hm....

As for forums etiquette, it's our right to hide behind the anonymity of the Internet and call "BS" as loudly as we can.
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Old 04-14-2010, 01:54 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Btw the local police doesn't have neither the training nor the funds/equipment to deal with it. Since you got threats (i assume against your life) you need to contact the federal electronic crime unit of your jurisdiction and seek advice. They can contact and correspond with the carrier and the manufacturer directly.

Online forums can be sympathetic and understanding to the issue up to point but when the word BS gets mentioned few too many times it's the queue line to seek professional help outside the interwebs. Especially for something so serious.
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Old 04-14-2010, 02:11 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I suspected the phsyical security of the device as well and I have taken what I consider to be a good level of security to protect the device. I know that there is s mobile systems third party software to stop this type of thing but are there any others? I do realize that it is highly unlikely, and I am open to the fact that the attack point might be through other vectors as mentioned. For example, a friend of mine had their conversations monitored and traced it back to a representative from their cell phone company. Aparently, her partner was friends with the rep and was granted access to her live calls some how. The police were able to trace this. My point is that even that nothing is impossible just highly improbable. I am looking to stop the highly improbable.

Now in regards to DarthBBerry's overal argument it would seem your another band wagon jumper who really didn't read everything before jumping on. As for the last comment regarding "anonymity" of course you have the right to voice your opinion and concerns to protect your virtual space from abusers, without exposing your true self. After all I benifit from the anonymity. However, I have not attacked anybodies right to "anonymity" unless you call asking people to act with the same maturity and respect I have showed them an attack? As I mentioned earlier there is no need to say it multiple times the message has already been processed, it would seem that you are just trying to get in another jab. If interest in the topic is dead or their is nothing new to add then the thread will naturally die. So it would seem you are looking to perpetuate the very thing you are trying to stop.

I have approached each thread with the humblness of a new poster here being choosing my words carefully, and appologizing where I deem necessary.

I did not add to this post to start a rant. If you feel so strongly toward my posting here or that I am a meer spamer than I invite you to have a moderater evaluate the content, and my actions on this board and to take the appropriate action rather than using these brutish attacks.
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Old 04-14-2010, 02:15 PM   #24 (permalink)
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thank you the-economist! This is new and valuable information regarding the federal electronic crime unit of your jurisdiction. Before now I had no idea that this unit existed. This gives me something I can follow up with. Thank you for taking this seriously despite the fact that it seems impossible.
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Old 04-14-2010, 02:26 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Blush, (1) wipe the device such that you have 507 error (see the two articles at blackberryfaq.com wrt JL_CMDER.

(2) Use a computer that you have not previously been using and reinstall the device software.

(3) Put a password on the device and lock it whenever it is not on your person, when you are sleeping, etc. Don't let anyone else handle your blackberry.

(4) Do not install any applications, at least for the time being, beyond the core applications in the OS install. At the very least, don't install anything suggested to you by someone else. Install only RIM add-on app's or legit third-party app's you have searched and chosen from sources such as blackberry app world or known vendor sites.
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Old 04-14-2010, 04:41 PM   #26 (permalink)
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If someone hasn't already mentioned this, if you're not on BES and she's snooping, make sure your backup to media card or device on BBM is OFF! otherwise, that trunk list of all the dates prior to any activity on BBM is just proof , or just say what Shaggy Boombastic says "IT WASN'T ME" lol
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Yes, it sounds like bull to me too. But if he wants to be sure there is no spyware, he could wipe the device and reinstall the OS. Then set a password that she can't guess and a short security time out.
I agree with you. If he feel that there is any spy software installed in his BB. He just need to update os or reinstall it then the spy software will be removed automatically and not working anymore.
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Old 07-20-2010, 06:38 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I agree with you. If he feel that there is any spy software installed in his BB. He just need to update os or reinstall it then the spy software will be removed automatically and not working anymore.
Sorry gilroy, read Daphne's post again. Simple updating or reinstalling your OS will NOT necessarily remove any "spy" software. As a matter of fact, OS upgrades alone will backup third party apps like that and reinstall them.
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Sorry gilroy, read Daphne's post again. Simple updating or reinstalling your OS will NOT necessarily remove any "spy" software. As a matter of fact, OS upgrades alone will backup third party apps like that and reinstall them.
Gilroy has been giving bad advice all over. In another thread he/she stated that if the app is not a RIM app then it is a spy app. So, according to Gilroy, Pandora, Google Maps, iHeartRadio, etc. are spy apps.
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Sorry gilroy, read Daphne's post again. Simple updating or reinstalling your OS will NOT necessarily remove any "spy" software. As a matter of fact, OS upgrades alone will backup third party apps like that and reinstall them.
How about using JL-CMDR first before re-installing the OS? Shouldn't that wipe it out? This of course is assuming you don't re-install the suspected third party app that may have the spy software.

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Old 07-20-2010, 01:16 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Preroll, yes that would work.
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Yeah, she's trying to get him to think he's caught so he'll 'fess up and incriminate himself. I can't help but think a simple password would take care of all snooping. Nobody can install anything or delete anything if your device is password protected.
I wonder if setting a password would prevent the installation of malicious code from being installed within the background (from say a third party app that was added) or does it just prevent a user from accessing the phone itself?
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A security password will only secure the device to using it... not blocking any installation of applications unless the "malicious" user must access the device to install it.
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A security password will only secure the device to using it... not blocking any installation of applications unless the "malicious" user must access the device to install it.
How about the section under General Settings that says "Prompt on Application Install"? That's why I asked this actually.
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Yep, I forgot about that setting
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Old 07-23-2010, 10:05 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Old 07-26-2010, 02:33 PM   #37 (permalink)
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@Blush_models, your KILLING ME!!

Understand that the reason that the US Government uses Blackberry is because it's the MOST SECURE Smartphone there is. PERIOD.. I think someone's getting a little too paranoid after watching some spy movies or something. Even Spyware will show up under Applications and it can be removed. You've been given MULTIPLE answers by VERY qualified people on how to wipe the device and install the OS from scratch but you continue to push on with someone's spying on you. Call your local FBI office and show them. (Make sure you don't wear a belt or shoelaces when you go because they will take them when they throw you in the nuthouse).

Chances are your computer was hacked and every time you sync it, the threatening contacts are synced over to your Blackberry and then you see them.

Now go call the local FBI office and have them send an agent out and see what happens.
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