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ArgonNJ 03-12-2011 11:31 AM

Blackberry Security
 
I was just reading about how both the iphone and the BB were compromised at the PWN2OWN challenge. Apparently the Torch was compromised through it's webkit browser. This claim really interested me.

The three researchers noted that the exploit used on the BlackBerry’s mobile OS was difficult to craft due to the lack of documentation, software tools, and resources available. They also noted that most of the operating systems security was achieved via obscurity, and stated that the company was “way behind the iPhone at the moment, from a security perspective.

Interesting indeed. So I guess the BB is secure not because it was built that way, but simply because it's obscure. I guess that's good too.

iOS, BlackBerry OS fall at Pwn2Own | BGR

NJBlackBerry 03-12-2011 11:56 AM

Re: Blackberry Security
 
The troll has returned. Welcome back. Aren't you online to buy the next Apple toy?

wabbit 03-12-2011 12:12 PM

Re: Blackberry Security
 
well at least my chorme browser still hasnt been cracked like safari in 5 seconds!

on the subject of hacking, remember 5 years ago they also claimed a bb can be hacked by installing a 3rd party app! yeh baby!

webkit is buggy its not made by rim.......

only thing keeping chrome alive is the sandbox feature and thanks to version 10 it now sandboxes adobe! yeh baby!

ArgonNJ 03-12-2011 12:17 PM

Re: Blackberry Security
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wabbit (Post 1706979)
well at least my chorme browser still hasnt been cracked like safari in 5 seconds!

on the subject of hacking, remember 5 years ago they also claimed a bb can be hacked by installing a 3rd party app! yeh baby!

webkit is buggy its not made by rim.......

only thing keeping chrome alive is the sandbox feature and thanks to version 10 it now sandboxes adobe! yeh baby!

All I use is Chrome. Best browser if you ask me.

ArgonNJ 03-12-2011 12:18 PM

Re: Blackberry Security
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NJBlackBerry (Post 1706978)
The troll has returned. Welcome back. Aren't you online to buy the next Apple toy?

Not really a troll comment, just passing along some good info. The iphone was cracked just as easily, so it looks like everyone has some work to do.

wabbit 03-12-2011 12:25 PM

Re: Blackberry Security
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ArgonNJ (Post 1706980)
All I use is Chrome. Best browser if you ask me.

its faster then ffx i still use both ffx and chrome, chrome still has issues at time for me, the only real reason i love chrome is how quick and painless and seamless it updates itself.

unlike ffx its background automatic and i never have to worry its at current version. which is a big plus, wish ffx would do this i would probably go back instead of that update box pop up etc.

rambo47 03-12-2011 02:22 PM

Re: Blackberry Security
 
I'm not so concerned about security when the hackers had to be handed an UNLOCKED device and direct the browser to their own custom-made hacking site. It's interesting as a proof-of-concept exercise and food for thought, but it's still not a significant threat. Also of note is that they did it on a Safari-based browser. AFAIK, nobody has done this with the older browser.

ArgonNJ 03-12-2011 03:16 PM

Re: Blackberry Security
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rambo47 (Post 1706996)
I'm not so concerned about security when the hackers had to be handed an UNLOCKED device and direct the browser to their own custom-made hacking site. It's interesting as a proof-of-concept exercise and food for thought, but it's still not a significant threat. Also of note is that they did it on a Safari-based browser. AFAIK, nobody has done this with the older browser.

This exploit was webkit browser based, but as they said, the OS is secure because it's obscure, not because of it's design as many claim. You should be worried. Smartphones are the next big hack target, BBs are not immune.

rambo47 03-12-2011 04:07 PM

Re: Blackberry Security
 
Tempest in a teapot. And BlackBerry is far from "obscure". That sounds like whining from hackers because RIM doesn't make it easy for them to get the tools to hack it. BlackBerry was JUST surpassed by Android as the most widely used OS in North America. How is that "obscure"??

ArgonNJ 03-12-2011 06:31 PM

Re: Blackberry Security
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rambo47 (Post 1707008)
Tempest in a teapot. And BlackBerry is far from "obscure". That sounds like whining from hackers because RIM doesn't make it easy for them to get the tools to hack it. BlackBerry was JUST surpassed by Android as the most widely used OS in North America. How is that "obscure"??

I think they ment that it's inner workings are obscure and not well documented. That is why BB has been safe so far. Don't count on it lasting forever.

daphne 03-13-2011 12:05 AM

Re: Blackberry Security
 
Moved to security section.


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