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06-14-2008, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by bb8310
when is UK doing this upgrade?
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Nobody knows. But it'll surely come.
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06-14-2008, 11:19 AM
Any word on AT&T's 2.5 BIS?
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06-14-2008, 11:20 AM
it would have to be upgraded by RIM first. With the upcoming outages one can only assume they are preparing for it. APAC was a test market (my guess)
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06-14-2008, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Sith_Apprentice
it would have to be upgraded by RIM first. With the upcoming outages one can only assume they are preparing for it. APAC was a test market (my guess)
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I have been having trouble with my gmail accounts, but not my blackberry.net accounts...No mail coming in on my gmail accounts, but sending works fine, bb messenger works fine, browser works...
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06-14-2008, 11:29 AM
delete all gmail service books under options > advanced > service books and then log into your bis site BlackBerry Internet Service and resend the service books
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06-14-2008, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Sith_Apprentice
delete all gmail service books under options > advanced > service books and then log into your bis site BlackBerry Internet Service and resend the service books
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who are you talking to here? Do you think I just got a blackberry yesterday?   
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06-18-2008, 08:44 PM
ive had the html option in my settings for a while now.
but today i finally got my first html email! :D happiness. everything looks peachy
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06-18-2008, 10:06 PM
Cool! Thanks for the update.
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06-19-2008, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by muck
ive had the html option in my settings for a while now.
but today i finally got my first html email! :D happiness. everything looks peachy
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What type of email address is that? GMAIL? Yahoo? Hosted?
I see you're on Optus, hopefully ATT will be getting this soon
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06-19-2008, 10:46 PM
About June 29th... give or take a few hours 
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06-19-2008, 10:48 PM
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About June 29th... give or take a few hours 
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well that's not good enough...I want an exact time..NOW!!!!    
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06-19-2008, 10:52 PM
Good things come to those who wait! 
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06-19-2008, 10:53 PM
The wait is getting close to being over.
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Sweden has it now! -
06-21-2008, 07:30 AM
Telenor in Sweden has it now.
Happened overnight... here's an email I got today.
Last edited by calkenneth : 06-21-2008 at 07:31 AM.
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06-21-2008, 07:30 AM
very cool
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06-21-2008, 07:35 AM
Super!
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06-21-2008, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by calkenneth
Telenor in Sweden has it now.
Happened overnight... here's an email I got today.
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Did you have to do anything to make it work or HTML started to work by itself?
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06-21-2008, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Berry One
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Originally Posted by calkenneth
Telenor in Sweden has it now.
Happened overnight... here's an email I got today.
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Did you have to do anything to make it work or HTML started to work by itself?
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I did not have to do anything with the service books. I just woke up today and all of my Gmail email conversations had the indentations and my Jcrew advertisements showed the HTML formatting.
Edit: I totally lied - my email settings DO have the HTML options. The setting for "download images automatically" is set to YES but you still have to manually download it for security reasons (so spammers can't see that you address is active!)
Last edited by calkenneth : 06-21-2008 at 09:24 AM.
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06-21-2008, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by calkenneth
[size=1]The setting for "download images automatically" is set to YES but you still have to manually download it for security reasons (so spammers can't see that you address is active!)
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Do you have to manually download each and every image? or just say OK on an e-mail level and it downloads all images in that e-mail?
I think having to download each and every image is such a laborious task... Why not "whitelist" e-mail addresses and e-mails from those addresses download images automatically??
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06-21-2008, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by nigeltrevor
Do you have to manually download each and every image? or just say OK on an e-mail level and it downloads all images in that e-mail?
I think having to download each and every image is such a laborious task... Why not "whitelist" e-mail addresses and e-mails from those addresses download images automatically??
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No, you can download all images (or just one) with the menu options, but you raise a good point - Gmail allows you to "whitelist" certain "from" addresses so that their images always download for you, but I didn't see a feature like that with this new BIS v2.5.
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06-21-2008, 10:39 AM
Oh! and shares in Empower just started to plummet!
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06-21-2008, 10:43 AM
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Oh! and shares in Empower just started to plummet!
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Haha! However, the HTML emails don't work for BES emails as far as I know...
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06-21-2008, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by bb8310
when is UK doing this upgrade?
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Must have done it today. As this is done for all Europe almost in the same sequence, and most European carriers seem to have gone live today.
Send yourself the service books... and then see if "support HTML emal option appears in your email options.
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06-22-2008, 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Redflea
Thanks for the test results...that's better than the article said it would be, but it's still unfortunate about losing the images.
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why would need the images in your reply? You have the email on your phone already. I think regular email providers remove images on replys as well.....
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06-22-2008, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Mandel
Must have done it today. As this is done for all Europe almost in the same sequence, and most European carriers seem to have gone live today.
Send yourself the service books... and then see if "support HTML emal option appears in your email options.
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Woohoo yep its now live in the UK - just resent myself the service books and have HTML e-mail!!
Good times are here
(Still slightly annoying have to go to Menu / Get Images / Yes (to confirm) for every e-mail I want images for, but oh well, I'll take it)
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06-22-2008, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Phranc
I hope CDMA and Altell never get html mail. It's a waste of bandwidth and annoying. If you can't get your message across without bells, whistles, flowers, and unreadable fonts and colors, then your problem goes beyond sending email.
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Dude...take a laxative or something 
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06-23-2008, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by nigeltrevor
(Still slightly annoying have to go to Menu / Get Images / Yes (to confirm) for every e-mail I want images for, but oh well, I'll take it)
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Have you tried this?
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Originally Posted by ricpac
You don't have to. Look for the "Download Images Automatically" field under "Enable HTML Email."
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06-23-2008, 01:27 AM
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Have you tried this?
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That's why my phone is set to - and it doesn't work. You still have to manually download all images (unless it's an image you've downloaded before, in which case it's cached).
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06-23-2008, 01:30 AM
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Knowing T-Mobile's tendency to be at the tail end of everything, we'll probably get html email sometime in December! 
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06-23-2008, 01:30 AM
Weird that it works flawlessly for me. If you check out the screenshots I posted, I never had to click on anything just to get those images.
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06-23-2008, 01:31 AM
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Knowing T-Mobile's tendency to be at the tail end of everything, we'll probably get html email sometime in December! 
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06-23-2008, 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by pierre15208
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry 8100 Pearl)
Knowing T-Mobile's tendency to be at the tail end of everything, we'll probably get html email sometime in December! 
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Think positive!
Read this: http://www.blackberryforums.com/netw...june-28-a.html
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06-23-2008, 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ricpac
Weird that it works flawlessly for me. If you check out the screenshots I posted, I never had to click on anything just to get those images.
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Maybe it's a provider by provider thing.
Here is an email I just got this morning. The Download images automatically setting is set to "yes."
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06-23-2008, 01:39 AM
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That's good news indeed. I'm guessing that TMo will put out OS 4.5 a few days later. Does anyone who was upgraded know if the OS was pushed at about the same time as the BIS upgrade? I would guess there would be a delay of a few days to shake out the bugs.
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06-23-2008, 01:45 AM
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Maybe it's a provider by provider thing.
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It's possible. 
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06-23-2008, 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by pierre15208
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry 8100 Pearl)
That's good news indeed. I'm guessing that TMo will put out OS 4.5 a few days later. Does anyone who was upgraded know if the OS was pushed at about the same time as the BIS upgrade? I would guess there would be a delay of a few days to shake out the bugs.
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OSs are never pushed. You would have to use some other carrier's 4.5 OS so you would get to experience the whole thing. My guess is, T-Mobile should be releasing their own 4.5 OS (probably a week after next?) which would work perfectly with UMA, WiFi, BT and with just about everything else. 
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06-23-2008, 01:55 AM
Anyone know the status of this for Telus in Canada?
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06-23-2008, 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by flowrider
Anyone know the status of this for Telus in Canada?
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All of NA will get BIS 2.5 next weekend > please read the RIM outage notice posted by JSanders here http://www.blackberryforums.com/netw...june-28-a.html
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06-23-2008, 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ricpac
OSs are never pushed. You would have to use some other carrier's 4.5 OS so you would get to experience the whole thing. My guess is, T-Mobile should be releasing their own 4.5 OS (probably a week after next?) which would work perfectly with UMA, WiFi, BT and with just about everything else. 
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Alternatively, you can just download the latest 4.5 version (sticky link at the top of the your device-specific forum) and install that. Then you'll be one of the first to know when the HTML email is enabled. That's how I found out on Telenor!
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06-23-2008, 01:59 AM
Yup, pierre15208 can surely do that 
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