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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 161
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pittsburgh
Model: 8700
OS: 4.5.0.124
Carrier: T-Mobile
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06-23-2008, 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ricpac
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Originally Posted by pierre15208
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry 8100 Pearl)
That's good news indeed. I'm guessing that TMo will put out OS 4.5 a few days later. Does anyone who was upgraded know if the OS was pushed at about the same time as the BIS upgrade? I would guess there would be a delay of a few days to shake out the bugs.
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OSs are never pushed. You would have to use some other carrier's 4.5 OS so you would get to experience the whole thing. My guess is, T-Mobile should be releasing their own 4.5 OS (probably a week after next?) which would work perfectly with UMA, WiFi, BT and with just about everything else. 
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My fault. I mean rolled out I.e. Released, not pushed.
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BBFAQ Sysop
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06-23-2008, 03:31 AM
No worries. Let's all wait and see...
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 161
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pittsburgh
Model: 8700
OS: 4.5.0.124
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06-23-2008, 03:33 AM
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Nah, after reading the thread about the problems people had with the Vodafone 4.5 release for the Pearl, I'll wait for Tmo's release.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 23
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: England
Model: 8300
Carrier: O2 UK
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06-23-2008, 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by calkenneth
Maybe it's a provider by provider thing.
Here is an email I just got this morning. The Download images automatically setting is set to "yes."
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Ditto here.
Even though "Automatically download images" is set to "Yes", I still have to go to Menu / Get Images / Yes - to download images for every e-mail.
Maybe it is a carrier by carrier setting.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 23
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: England
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Carrier: O2 UK
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06-23-2008, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by nigeltrevor
Ditto here.
Even though "Automatically download images" is set to "Yes", I still have to go to Menu / Get Images / Yes - to download images for every e-mail.
Maybe it is a carrier by carrier setting.
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Hmm some e-mails actually have the images showing correctly without having to click "Get Images".
Trying to work out the logic here. Will wait for some more HTML e-mails / newsletters to see if there's some correlation.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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06-23-2008, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by gmpblack
Dude...take a laxative or something 
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Why? Because I consider HTML mail useless, a waste of bandwidth, and an indicator that the sender is incapable of making an articulate point without the help of crutches such as flowers, bells, and whistles?
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 142
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ireland
Model: 9000
OS: 4.6.0.210
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Carrier: O2 Ireland
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06-23-2008, 10:38 AM
Just asked O2 Ireland about this and they said they performed the upgrade over the weekend. I logged in to my BIS and deleted all the accounts and added them again, got the service books sent etc and when I go into options I dont have any new lines as shown in the first post.
Am I missing something here?
Last edited by thefonedoc : 06-24-2008 at 10:23 AM.
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BBFAQ Sysop
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06-23-2008, 10:40 AM
You need to have OS 4.5 for your device.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 142
Join Date: Jul 2005
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06-23-2008, 10:41 AM
Yep. Got that also. Late on Saturday night/Sunday morning on here
Running 4.5.0.37
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BBFAQ Sysop
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06-23-2008, 10:46 AM
Try a battery pull. Re-register via HRT. Re-send service books from the website again. Delete/re-add the email addresses, make sure there's some delay time between them.
Also, create a new hotmail account and "try" to integrate that on your carrier's BIS website. If it works, then it's confirmed, your carrier is on BIS 2.5. If not, then I guess the rep who told you about the upgrade just made it up.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 142
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ireland
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Carrier: O2 Ireland
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06-23-2008, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ricpac
Delete/re-add the email addresses, make sure there's some delay time between them.
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Have pulled battery, registered through HRT and also resent service books and still nothing. Going to try remove and recreate accounts again now. When you say make sure there's some delay, do you mean between deleting and recreating or between deleting each one?
Eg. I have 4 a/c's on it currently. Do you mean delete 1, wait, then another, wait, etc etc or do them 1 by 1 and wait between delete and reinstall
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BBFAQ Sysop
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06-23-2008, 11:12 AM
You can try: deleting everything and re-add everything again like after 5 or 10mins? If you have set up filters on some your email accts, please proceed at your own risk. You will be losing all of them with the deletion...
But I suggest you go with trying the Hotmail workaround I mentioned earlier just to check if your carrier is (indeed) already on BIS 2.5
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 74
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: New Delhi, India
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06-23-2008, 11:43 AM
Woo Woo Woo! I have Html Mail here in India on Airtel!
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 142
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ireland
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06-23-2008, 12:50 PM
Tried to sign up for a Hotmail account a few times and seems their signup server/system is down, so I remembered I had an old Yahoo mail address and I reactivated it and added it using the BIS page and still no luck.
In the meantime, O2 told me "Version 4.5 will allow customers to view emails in full HTML format once approved." & "A minority of our customers will have already upgraded to a non O2 approved version of firmware. These customers will not experience difficulties when attempting to receive emails in HTML format, but they will not be able to view this on their Blackberry." 
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 23
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Location: England
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Carrier: O2 UK
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06-23-2008, 12:59 PM
Hmm funny you should say that...... wonder if it's related but I can't seem to download any images for HTML e-mail.
The HTML e-mail is fine, but no external images will display? Embedded ones work just fine, but if I get an HTML newsletter for example, and click Get Images - nothing happens........
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 23
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: England
Model: 8300
Carrier: O2 UK
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06-23-2008, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by thefonedoc
In the meantime, O2 told me "Version 4.5 will allow customers to view emails in full HTML format once approved." & "A minority of our customers will have already upgraded to a non O2 approved version of firmware. These customers will not experience difficulties when attempting to receive emails in HTML format, but they will not be able to view this on their Blackberry." 
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I have the following happen: (Pictures in sequence)
1) New e-mail comes in
2) Click Get Images
3) Click Yes to prompt
4) Nothing happens
5) Picture of my settings
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 142
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ireland
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OS: 4.6.0.210
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Carrier: O2 Ireland
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06-23-2008, 02:07 PM
OK. Been meaning to ask. What are you guys using for screen caps?
Maybe I can add a few to show....by the way @nigeltrevor, I dont even get the same as your last pic. I see you are on O2 UK
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 23
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: England
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Carrier: O2 UK
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06-23-2008, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by thefonedoc
I dont even get the same as your last pic. I see you are on O2 UK
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What do you get?
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 142
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ireland
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OS: 4.6.0.210
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Carrier: O2 Ireland
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06-23-2008, 02:27 PM
Just the same old regular options
Confirm Delivery
Confirm Read
Send Read Receipts
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 142
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ireland
Model: 9000
OS: 4.6.0.210
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Carrier: O2 Ireland
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06-23-2008, 03:03 PM
Here we go.
This is the view I have now. Same as always 
Last edited by thefonedoc : 06-24-2008 at 10:29 AM.
Reason: Trying to get images to display correctly
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CrackBerry Addict
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06-23-2008, 05:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nigeltrevor
I have the following happen: (Pictures in sequence)
1) New e-mail comes in
2) Click Get Images
3) Click Yes to prompt
4) Nothing happens
5) Picture of my settings
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I would guess blackberry uses browser to download images. What browsers do you have on your device and which is configured as default browser?
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 23
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Location: England
Model: 8300
Carrier: O2 UK
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06-23-2008, 05:55 PM
Just have the normal BB browser, and then Opera mini 4.1.
The default one is unchanged, so Internet Browser.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 142
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ireland
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OS: 4.6.0.210
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Carrier: O2 Ireland
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06-23-2008, 07:16 PM
As a matter of interest, any time I click on one of my attached images above, it will either show half or quarter of the image or show a blank page! I have uploaded attachments to numerous forums before and never had any problems. Did I do something wrong?
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 68
Join Date: Jul 2007
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06-23-2008, 08:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phranc
Why? Because I consider HTML mail useless, a waste of bandwidth, and an indicator that the sender is incapable of making an articulate point without the help of crutches such as flowers, bells, and whistles?
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Really? Sometimes when our systems are crashing it likes to send an HTML formatted table to my phone.
If you can please give me a better method to do this I'd be very interested.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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06-23-2008, 08:49 PM
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Zup everyone I just got my hotmail registered on my curve,but even when I already got the hotmail icon on my screen,I'm not receiving e-mails on my device,I don't know if I'm missing something,I alrerady try to resend my service books,I already pull the battery out of my curve several times,but nothing works,all my others accounts are working fine (yahoo gmail blackberry.net) any ideas? Thank you
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 142
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ireland
Model: 9000
OS: 4.6.0.210
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Carrier: O2 Ireland
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06-24-2008, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by calkenneth
Telenor in Sweden has it now.
Happened overnight... here's an email I got today.
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What firmware are you using on the phone? Is it the Vodafone Germany 4.5.0.37 version?
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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06-24-2008, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by thefonedoc
What firmware are you using on the phone? Is it the Vodafone Germany 4.5.0.37 version?
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No, I am using a 4.5.0.42 version that I dug up.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 78
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: London, UK
Model: 8310
Carrier: T-mobile UK
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06-25-2008, 05:08 AM
I think it maybe something to do with .42, I am going to try out the .37 see if it's better, yes, I am on abou the get images nothing happens problem. and I am with T-mo uk.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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06-25-2008, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by maxsquared
I think it maybe something to do with .42, I am going to try out the .37 see if it's better, yes, I am on abou the get images nothing happens problem. and I am with T-mo uk.
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Cool let us know how you get on
So close, yet so far....
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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06-27-2008, 10:33 AM
guys I am on v4.5.0.37 vodafone release but on at&t BIS. Do i need to do anything to get the HTML email yet or is it not released yet? I thought I read where it was going to happen on the 27th?
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06-27-2008, 10:52 AM
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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06-29-2008, 09:52 AM
no big shocker here... but it works!!! I now have HTML email on my BIS accounts!
Im in North America, ATT
Ofcourse, i'm using 4.5
Last edited by alexvega : 06-29-2008 at 09:54 AM.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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06-29-2008, 10:13 AM
Verizon running 4.5.033 and just started seeing the option for HTML email... data started working about 9am and I had reset my BIS and I didnt see the HTML option but the menu just changed on its own to reflect..
It Maybe the Network... and have that bomb coverage but crippling built in services like GPS just for 10 bucks a month is wrong!!!
Last edited by vigor21215 : 06-29-2008 at 10:20 AM.
Reason: menu updated.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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06-29-2008, 10:21 AM
Resent my service books on T-Mobile and the option for HTML e-mail is there now.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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06-29-2008, 10:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phranc
Why? Because I consider HTML mail useless, a waste of bandwidth, and an indicator that the sender is incapable of making an articulate point without the help of crutches such as flowers, bells, and whistles?
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And I consider that to be perhaps the dumbest thing I have ever seen posted on this forum. Just because you get HTML formatted mail with flowers and bells doesn't mean that all people that get HTML formatted mail do.
I could not live without email in my business. MANY emails that I get include links to image galleries, spreadsheets or Word documents. If you think this is a waste of bandwidth or that I am lazy that is just tough nuts.
I use the Gmail applications on my phone so that these simple links are displayed properly. It is a wast of MY time to scroll through screen after screen of HTML for a simple link to a spreadsheet. This upgrade will be very welcome to me.
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06-29-2008, 12:27 PM
Have anyone noticed changes for AOL accounts? I added mine to blackberry today and it appeared with its own icon, greenish envelope with blue AOL text at the bottom.
Also, I receive emails sent to AOL account almost instanteniously on blackberry.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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06-29-2008, 01:02 PM
Using Gmail on ATT, re-sent the service books and still have no HTML.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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06-29-2008, 01:14 PM
BB Wishlist:
-Gmail BIS integration with an effective 2-way read/unread sync solution
-Better integrated alarm (on legacy devices)
-Threaded SMS
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 44
Join Date: Jun 2008
Model: 8310
OS: 4.5.0.42
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06-29-2008, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Berry One
Have anyone noticed changes for AOL accounts? I added mine to blackberry today and it appeared with its own icon, greenish envelope with blue AOL text at the bottom.
Also, I receive emails sent to AOL account almost instanteniously on blackberry.
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Same here man, my problem is i cant see any Images on my emails. I dont have the "Get Images" option under menu. Do You???
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06-29-2008, 01:45 PM
Wirelessly posted (BB 11020)
Have you resent your service books?
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