Hey folks, I'm sure you all have heard about the scheduled RIM outage for the BIS upgrade in APAC over the weekend and have read about the article hdawg had posted about the features of BIS v2.5... so please allow me to give you more updates about BIS v2.5, HTML Email and Hotmail integration (for now)...

To start with, let me give you the low down on how you will get HTML email on your HH. Once your carriers have upgraded to the latest BIS, you would need to remove and re-add your integrated email addys on your carrier's website for you to be able to get the "Enable HTML Email" field in Messages > Options > Email Settings. I've done countless battery-pulls soon after the upgrade window was up but never got it to work. I only figured it out when I integrated my Hotmail (created Feb 2008 and previously un-integrable [if there's a word ]) and it had that option. The only pain I had to go through was when I had to profusely re-setup my filters for my work email account (if I miss the thread for the workaround to this, hit me). So here's how it looks:



Since I haven't figured out the exact HTML email size that my HH could take (with the BIS update) before it'd show "More All," I sent a 19.29 KB from Entourage with a simple colored test message with Comic Sans MS Bold as font, sized 11 and here's how it looked like when I received it on my HH:



Now I'm not sure if it should work that way as it only kept the colors AND it came out with the same font I have setup on my BB. Here's its "converted" size equivalent via Options > Status > BB Key > Database Sizes:



The only other big news there is, at least for me, is that Hotmail now works seamlessly and it's delivered real-time as was documented. That news would surely send some "ouch!" to those who paid for the Plus service. Sorry. BTW, when you integrate Hotmail, you will get this as a reminder:



So good luck to all you NA and EU users. You all will surely get BIS v2.5 real soon. And let's all hope to get the official copies of OS 4.5. Enjoy!



UPDATE regarding Hotmail not being pushed sometimes:

RIM KB Article KB15747

Will I need to upgrade my hotmail account to do this?

excellent write-up

Nope. No need. Follow this link for the KB article > KB15252

Thanks Sith!

Sincerely,
Sith_Apprentice's Fans' Club President

NICE!!!!! Glad to see it in action

Need the HTML upgrade..

waiting for AT&T .....

Thanks for the update

well not only do you have to wait for the carrier to allow it, you have to wait for RIM to update the NA servers as well

oh thats exciting. surely it wont be to long for us in NA .

I hope not

This is a bookmark

By the way, how do I find out what OS my curve is on?

*stuck*

options > about will tell you your OS. as will going to your main icon screen holding alt and typing EACE (or RACE on suretype phones)

About time, this will do wonders for the sales of BIS over here.

Has anyone heard when T-Mobile will update BIS? Surely no time soon...

no ... we're all hoping soon with APAC being done this past weekend.

ugh.. is there any way to print out all of your filters for each e-mail account?

Guess this means I'll never get it since im cdma and we all know that it will be end of product life before RIM releases the 4.5 os for cdma devices

I hope CDMA and Altell never get html mail. It's a waste of bandwidth and annoying. If you can't get your message across without bells, whistles, flowers, and unreadable fonts and colors, then your problem goes beyond sending email.

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Well you are entitled to your opinion, but the general consensus says give me html email.

Just open up the bis website, edit filters, then hit function printscreen and paste into a word document, for viewing later. Or control printscreen what ever you have.

thx... but this only shows the name of your filter. you have to go into each filter to see the phrase or address you've selected. maybe next time, i'll keep both the name and contents the same!

>To start with, let me give you the low down on how you will get HTML email on your HH... I've done countless battery-pulls soon after the upgrade window was up but never got it to work.

Have you tried pushing service books? If it works it is much easier procedure that removing and adding email accounts.

I think I've done that too. I think it's the same as how you should be re-integrating Hotmail as was posted on the RIM KB Article. But it could've just been me. Thanks for pointing that out!

Welcome to the 21st century; HTML email is here to stay. One function of the BB is to be an extension of your desk / laptop / whatever ... where I'm pretty sure even you receive HTML email.

Every other major playing in the smartphone arena has support for HTML email; its time RIM did the same.

If our data connections were limited to 14.4 kbit I'm pretty sure we wouldn't see HTML email. There are more bits now; they're gonna get used.

See first posting on that thread. When HTML becomes available for CDMA device, just select NO at 'Enable HTML email.'

I do appreciate that HTML is not forced on anyone. I have one of email addresses which is HTML spam magnet, I am thinking of keeping HTML off for it.
Somehow HTML code and URL links from spam emails annoy me less than flashy content with pictures of blue pills.

If you click edit filter it shows you everything, I have all on mine saved.

yes, but i'd have to click on every individual filter and print/copy/etc. i was hoping to be able to somehow get all of the filters (name and rules) printed out at the same time. i have multiple filters with one rule.. not just one filter with a bunch of rules.

Awesome but I'm not gonna hold my breath being on CDMA. Hopefully they don't drag-a55 on this...

If I read the hdawg article (linked to above) correctly, HTML email support is only for reading messages on the BB...if you create a new message, forward, or reply to an HTML message, it goes as plain text. So if you're having a back-and-forth the message will become plain text on your first reply. Also, you'll have to confirm display of each image via the menu. Is that correct? If so, the HTML support part of this upgrade seems pretty underwhelming to me...

Ya that's the only way I know.

You don't have to. Look for the "Download Images Automatically" field under "Enable HTML Email."

Well that's good to hear...but still, the loss of HTML formatting when you do any action on the email is disappointing to me.

The HTML formatting doesn't get lost at all... only the images--not sure if that matters to a lot of folks around here. Here's what I did:

1. Sent an email from Entourage.




2. Received on the BB and replied.




3. Reply received on Entourage (should be the same with Outlook--tried it yesterday).



Notice how the inserted image got lost in translation.

maybe its entourage.

I've tried it with Outlook too. See #3 above.

Thanks for the test results...that's better than the article said it would be, but it's still unfortunate about losing the images.

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With RIM in slough today and have had it confirmed 2.5 is out in the UK on the 26th June.

Do you think they would run un update of this scale on a business day? I was more keen to thing of an update over the weekend like the apac one.

w00t Guam mPulse got their upgrade and we now have HTML e-mail. All I had to do was resend the service books from the "carrier".blackberry.com site.

when is UK doing this upgrade?