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Old 09-23-2005, 03:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've spent all day today trying to get the data service working on my 7100r through Fido. All started out well but every time I told them I had a non-Fido phone, all communications stopped. Even talking to a technician (who I'm convinced is called a 'technician' because he's the guy with the manuals for the phones they sell at his desk...he doesn't seem to know more than that) wasn't helpful. The manager I spoke to last gave me the same treatment as he consulted with the tech for all his answers...then he referred me to howardforums.com.

Good thing I didn't subscribe to a BES service yet. You'd think that a guy with a server running at home with an exchange server on it would have an easier time with this sort of thing.

Unless I figure out an alternative, I'm going to have to sell this phone or pay through the nose to cancel my plan with Fido...neither excite me greatly.

If anybody has a spare miracle laying around...or at least a tissue, I'm listening .

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Old 09-23-2005, 03:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well... Fido doesn't offer BlackBerry Service although they do have the capacity, but I doubt someone in their tech support/customer service can fix this for you. In Canada, Rogers is the only GSM operator that offers BlackBerry services to customers.
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Unless I'm horribly misguided I should still be able to connect to a BES server or do the most basic of WAP type stuff...but I get nothing but voice and SMS.
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BES, no
WAP ... Maybe...

I can't quite remember how it works on a BlackBerry ...I think your SOL on that as well. The wireless network pushes a service book which contains all the necessary settings and once that happens the WAP browser will appear. However, without the ability to sign up for a BlackBerry data plan (or really, have Fido provision you for BlackBerry data), how would Fido send you a BlackBerry Service Book.

You cannot manually create or configure service books.

Now with all that being said!

I used to use Rogers, when Rogers purchased Fido, I found I had better coverage with Fido and manually selected Fido as my network (as there were no charges to roam onto Fido). Everything worked. Now, I am not too familiar with how exactly roaming works, but I assume this means Fido was able to connect me to the Roger WAP APN so maybe (and by maybe I mean probably unlikely) you can restore service books from a Rogers BlackBerry onto your Fido BlackBerry and you might be able to get WAP to work. You still won't get BES/BIS/BIBS to work without Fido provisioning you for that service.
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I've nearly resigned myself to agreeing that there's no work around using Fido.

I agree with you T-Roy that Fido seemingly has the better system. I've been with them for years and have always praised their rate plans and service. But it's all the same now. There is no Fido/Microcell network any longer. The only one you can find is Rogers. And now that they're merged, there's no longer any business plans with Fido either.

I'm giving consideration to cancelling and moving to Rogers. As much as I hate doing that...and loosing a phone number and a great voice plan. But it may be the only way I can get good reliable email on my phone again. It's too bad the BB data plans on Rogers are so damned expensive.

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Unless I'm horribly misguided I should still be able to connect to a BES server or do the most basic of WAP type stuff...but I get nothing but voice and SMS.
You are horribly misguided.
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Old 10-26-2005, 10:47 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Exclamation Fido on BB 7290 Idea?

I was wondering, the date service with a blackberry, is that transmitted according to the IMEI? By this I mean, if I am able to register my IMEI with Rogers for a blackberry data only package. If that is the case then can one register with rogers under the device's IMEI and maintain my voice plan with fido that is attached to the SIM?

Any ideas?

Also can anyone explain this web link to an official site:
http://webclient.blackberry.net/WebM....jsp?site=fido

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OK the problem with using WAP service with fido is your limited to just the port 9201. standard email ports like 465/995/25/110 may work but dont count on it; especially since the merger/takeover/ownage of Fido by Rogers. You should have the Internet data apn on you fido account , the one that gives you full port 8080 on your device.

That said why cant he setup his one BlackBerry WebClient and use that to generate service books through the network?

Fido apparantly did have the setup to allow Blackberry's on their network - you know the webclient; not sure the exact address or even if its still running but it used to be there!
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