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pager_guy · 10:50 AM

hi everyone!

I have a bell mobility 7250 software 4.0.0.204 and i have an unlimited BB data plan. i can get WAP sites via the secure WAP browser and via the regular Internet browser i can get http requests filled.

the IM+ clients (both WAP and BES versions) just don't want to communicate at all nor does the auto-config work worth beans.

Quote:

Bell Mobility - Does NOT Work; Need MDS hosting
Unfortunately, none of the Bell Mobility BlackBerries have a TCP/IP stack enabled. Not even the 7250. A future BlackBerryOS may fix this, or Bell Mobility might enable the feature in the future. No timeline known. For now, get BES/MDS Hosting in order to make 3rd party Internet applications work

any ideas Mark????

anybody?????

***********UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE***********

i figured out Bell Mobility's settings by "hacking" together some settings off the main list of providers, and VOILA!! it works now in WAP version.

WAP Gateway: 207.236.197.199
WAP Gateway Port: 9203
WAP APN: internet.com <---- apparently this _IS_ now required and cannot be blank!

once i typed this in and clicked "trial" my services popped up after a short delay!!

YIPPEE!!!

PIN: 300b66c1

triprince · 12-09-2005, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thecrave

Sorry if I'm a newbie -- I've seen a lot of discussion about using GPRS w/o BES. Nice FAQ Mark. But I still have some questions...

I just got a BB6710 off of eBay and upgraded the sw to v4.

I currently have a very good voice plan, including "unlimited mMode data" with Cingular Blue (former AT&T).

I would like to try out the BB before I switch off my plan, with the concern that if I don't like the BB device, I'll switch back to my Microsoft SmartPhone (mpx220).

I'm not too interested in the BES/push features of the BB, but more so the WAP/HTML browsing, chat, etc.

I see "Data connection refused" along with a lowercase "gprs" on my home screen.

After I upgraded, I lost my browser icon. So I've installed Minuet. When I try to browse to a site, I get "Sorry, Page Not Found!"

I've changed TCP setting to "proxy" and tried "internet" and "internet.com" -- still no difference.

Am I out of luck, or is there something I can get Cingular to add to my account (no-cost) to enable me to browse WAP/HTML on my BB?

Thanks,

thecrave

Minuet requires either BES or a service provider-hosted IP gateway. As a BIS user, you will need to set up access to the IP gateway from your service provider.

Please check out the following link which shows the settings for most popular service providers:

http://www.blackberryforums.com/blackberry-network/2185-blackberry-internet-msn-chat-web-telnet-tcpip-no-bes.html

These settings do change so please check with your service provider to make sure they are correct.

nagjames · 12-09-2005, 05:50 PM

Hi All,

Device:7250
v4.0.2.29 (latest)
Network: CMDA-Telus,Canada,Vancouver

I'm trying to run applications which use various ports so I'm guessing I need to configure TCP ip. Unfortunately there was no options->TCP settings in my old firmware. it was 4.0.0??? . Now I upgraded to the latest Telus image v4.0.2.29 . But I still have no Options->TCP menu .
According to the FAQ Telus should work with TCP. But I can't even find the menu option. Is there an other firmware available?
I'm I missing something?

Thanks,
James

headtailgrep · 12-13-2005, 09:47 AM

Has anyone had any success with tcp/ip apps on a Bell device, or is it still unsupported?

KonTiki · 12-13-2005, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nagjames

Hi All,

Device:7250

v4.0.2.29 (latest)

Network: CMDA-Telus,Canada,Vancouver

I'm trying to run applications which use various ports so I'm guessing I need to configure TCP ip. Unfortunately there was no options->TCP settings in my old firmware. it was 4.0.0??? . Now I upgraded to the latest Telus image v4.0.2.29 . But I still have no Options->TCP menu .

According to the FAQ Telus should work with TCP. But I can't even find the menu option. Is there an other firmware available?

I'm I missing something?

Thanks,

James

Read this entire thread: http://www.blackberryforums.com/show...580#post141580

Jay M · **:( -** 12-13-2005, 05:56 PM

Blackberry 7520 got Webviewer loaded on but it wont connect. Im on Nextel and i get either a "could not open tunnel" msg or just a plain "waiting...". One is for the corporate version and one is for the personal version though im not sure which is which. So just wondering, how exactly do i connect

mws222 · 12-14-2005, 08:10 PM

i just called cingular because no html browser was showing up, and the guy told me thats how it should be, i shouldn't have any html browser unless i'm using a bes. any suggestions as to how to get them to resolve this other than to just keep calling

Pscobee · 12-14-2005, 10:48 PM

I am another frustrated cingular 8700 customer (Just hung up on another dumba$$)

can't get verichat to work (also blackberry browser doesn't work?)

but I got IM+ to work using TCP/IP, port 30000, Direct TCP

But I want to use my paid verichat, darnit!!!

This is frustrating.....

mws222 · 12-15-2005, 09:25 AM

Well I got my blackberry browser after a few calls, the 3rd rep i talked to tried to get me to do everything I had previously done again. I finally asked him to just remove my blackberry plan and readd it, he insisted that it wouldn't work but as soon as I reset my phone I had the browser...
No problems getting them to add the wap apn though

Pscobee · 12-16-2005, 09:40 AM

my trials continue.... turns out www.mi8.com does not have mds turned on and won't enable it due to "security" reasons....

So I cannot get my verichat (Paid for darnit) to work, but I did get IM+ to work using their autoconfigure options.

Is there another program that would work better than IM+ or any ideas getting verichat to work?

dcrhaekte · 10:23 PM

BB 7290 w/Cingular

Nothing in this entire thread works. Cingular reps inform me that nothing will work without one of their 2 plans they offer. All I want is the same browsing capability as my cell phones have which is very minimal but enough for me. I also explored the part about adding the WIX lines and 2 reps told me that they all 3 cannot exist together that you only get the first 2 lines, they cancel each other out and it does not work.

Now I'm very confused because I see 10-15 different ways to set up a BB 7290 without a plan, but Cingular tells me it can't be done. Not the regular cust. serv. guys, but the BB specialists tell me this.

So what are my options here?

Cingular Unlimited Plan (raises my bill by $50.00 (hardly worth that))
Link2Exchange (one time setup fee of $40.00 then $19.99 per month (tons more features than Cingular))

Since the market is so limited and Cingular likes to rape it's customers, I guess I'll have to go with Link2Exchange. I'll post sometime next month and let you know how it went.

By the way, did I convey the fact that Cingular sucks?

qdtrinh · 12-20-2005, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pager_guy

hi everyone!

I have a bell mobility 7250 software 4.0.0.204 and i have an unlimited BB data plan. i can get WAP sites via the secure WAP browser and via the regular Internet browser i can get http requests filled.

the IM+ clients (both WAP and BES versions) just don't want to communicate at all nor does the auto-config work worth beans.

any ideas Mark????

anybody?????

***********UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE***********

i figured out Bell Mobility's settings by "hacking" together some settings off the main list of providers, and VOILA!! it works now in WAP version.

WAP Gateway: 207.236.197.199
WAP Gateway Port: 9203
WAP APN: internet.com <---- apparently this _IS_ now required and cannot be blank!

once i typed this in and clicked "trial" my services popped up after a short delay!!

YIPPEE!!!

PIN: 300b66c1

Where are you supposed to enter these infos?

Catwoman69y2k · **Hmm -** 12-21-2005, 06:50 PM

I dont see any of these methods working. I already had a Media.net plan since my boyfriend has me and his bro on a family plan and wanted us to have the ability to browse.

So anyone have a good method for someone who owns a 7100T?

1QWIK7 · 12-30-2005, 04:43 PM

Sup everyone, i just bought the 7520 running the 4.0 but i cant seem to get my browser running. Nextel is my provider and following the directions, i still cant get it to work. When i open up browser, it says "default browser configuration" with no option to do anything, none of the keys work in that part of the screen. I then when to bluetooth and its disabled. How do i get the browser to work?

wezl333 · 01-09-2006, 11:03 PM

Whats up guys,
i have a problem. i got a bb 7520i put my nextel sim in it and downloaded rabmle. it was working great, but now out of no where i cant log in. it keeps giving me a message ( Invalid Connection String unable to open connection ). can someone please help me out.
thnx

monisa · **data connectio refused -** 01-14-2006, 01:15 PM

Anybody been able to resolve the "data connection refused" and small caps gprs
even when entering the correct apn, un and pw of my gprs provider.

BB 8700c unlocked.

blackworld · **7100t WAP/Outlook/AIM/Messenger -** 01-14-2006, 07:27 PM

Hi everyone, great forum, newb here...

BlackBerry 7105t
BlackBerry Unlimited T-Mobile ($19.99)
NO text message plan

Having trouble connecting with Ramble. I've configured my TCP to wap.voicestream.net and left username/pass blank. Called TMobile they said WAP is set up fine! Still can't connect to Ramble (Invalid connection string) with using TOC ports 8080 and 5190. Any suggestions anybody?

Is there any other services similar to Ramble that work for AIM and MSN Messenger?

Also, how can I get my outlook email to sync with my blackberry without BES. I read that I can do this, but not having any luck. Only the Internet Tmobile mail works (but not for MSN email).

Thanks!

blackworld · 01-14-2006, 07:27 PM

kingdox · **No Ramble on a Cingular (orange) 7290 -** 01-20-2006, 03:26 PM

So at our company I've been able to load up Ramble on about 5 BB with no problem. But this one BB of a VP has been giving me a hard time. Every other BB I have setup with ramble has had the TCP settings blank and worked.

I've done the steps setting up the TCP connection settings as this thread has shown and had no luck. I've also done the stuff listed at

http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/656013-1.html

and changed the default settings in Ramble from "Device Default" (works on my BB and everyone elses) to "Device TCP" and then I get "The application has attempted to open a connection to a location inside the firewall and outside the firewall which is not allowed by your IT Policy."

I am out of ideas, can someone please help me.

stonent · 01-20-2006, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingdox

So at our company I've been able to load up Ramble on about 5 BB with no problem. But this one BB of a VP has been giving me a hard time. Every other BB I have setup with ramble has had the TCP settings blank and worked.

I've done the steps setting up the TCP connection settings as this thread has shown and had no luck. I've also done the stuff listed at

http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/656013-1.html

and changed the default settings in Ramble from "Device Default" (works on my BB and everyone elses) to "Device TCP" and then I get "The application has attempted to open a connection to a location inside the firewall and outside the firewall which is not allowed by your IT Policy."

I am out of ideas, can someone please help me.

Well that's easy, they have applied a different policy to his phone and the other phones don't have it, basically the only way to fix it is to deal with the group that handles your BES servers and have them undo the policy. They are the only ones that can do this as the policy will be reapplied after synching again.

sigalmar · **Same Problem. Please Somebody Has An Answer? -** 01-23-2006, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RGabo

Mark, you state: 'No BES needed! No MDS needed!'.

I'm at T-Mobile Hungary and I can't get Blackberry service just yet (neither BES nor BWC) but I can get a full-blown GPRS internet plan that works perfect on my Motorola MPX200 (Web, IM, etc).

When I set the same APN/username/password and/or WAP gateway, nothing works. Tunnel can be opened (meaning, username and password are OK) but it seems to time out and I get a 'could not connect' error message. I Tried VeriChat, WebViewer, SSH apps, no go.

How could I troubleshoot my problem and do I need to make any requests from my provider? Better asked: is there any difference how a 'normal' phone (Nokia / Motorola GPRS phones) access GPRS and how the Blackberry does?

Tx,

X_fury · 02-03-2006, 09:08 PM

well i am with bell mobility and have the 7250 model and im+ wont work properly i click trial and it bring me to the service list i have the wap info in and when i click connect after putting in im info it tries for about a min they i get error code 502, null, if i try to do the auto confie it errors out too.

HIH · 02-06-2006, 06:56 PM

Tryied to get the GoogleLocal to work but failed numerous times. Any advice? Thanks

FastNet · **Tim Peru -** 02-09-2006, 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RGabo

Mark, you state: 'No BES needed! No MDS needed!'.

I'm at T-Mobile Hungary and I can't get Blackberry service just yet (neither BES nor BWC) but I can get a full-blown GPRS internet plan that works perfect on my Motorola MPX200 (Web, IM, etc).

When I set the same APN/username/password and/or WAP gateway, nothing works. Tunnel can be opened (meaning, username and password are OK) but it seems to time out and I get a 'could not connect' error message. I Tried VeriChat, WebViewer, SSH apps, no go.

How could I troubleshoot my problem and do I need to make any requests from my provider? Better asked: is there any difference how a 'normal' phone (Nokia / Motorola GPRS phones) access GPRS and how the Blackberry does?

Tx,

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob61280

my question is the same as RGabo,

if blackberry service is not available through a normal gprs/gsm connection, is it possible to use wap,sms, and retrieve pop email in a traditional non-blackberry way, with a blackberry?

thanks
Rob

Hello, i Have a 7290 Blackberry from Sigapur, but i live in Peru, in my country(Peru) there is not the blackberry service, but my SIM card is working OK in my Siemens CF62T, but when i want to use my SIM Card in my Blackberry, i can´t connect to the WEB; in my Siemens i have configurated the GPRS,
APN:wap.tim.pe
userAPN:tim
PasswordAPN:tulibertad
gateway IP: 213.26.205.1
Port: 9201
this configuratios is working OK in My Siemens CF62T, but why it dosen´t work in my blackberry? i am using WebViewer, IM+, and other smalls programas for blackberry but it seems to time out and I get a 'could not connect' error message.
I need help please, some body help me please, thanks.
sorry, my english is not good, but i hope you can understund. Thanks Very Much.

Larry Elliott · **Vodafone NZ -** 02-10-2006, 01:41 AM

Hi Does anyone know how to set up Internet use from Vodafone NZ. Their current restrictions even prevent me from using bbSpell or MobiMate. talking with the so called support persons is a waste of time... We dont support 3rd Party Software...
Thanks for any assistance
Larry Elliott

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wireless18 · 10:18 AM

[Alltel] Anyone know of any free solution for internet on 3rd party apps for Alltel users without BES. We have quite a few of these users who I would love to get network connections working for.

Cheers
Jonathan
"A Wireless Golfer"
http://www.wireless18.com

cpt.howdy · 02-16-2006, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyle16

ok i spent hours upon hours researching this matter before calling Cingular. below is what i did and what you should do if you want to get the Internet configured correctly (so you can use 3rd party apps) and avoid the dreaded "could not open tunnel - failed" error message.......

btw - after performing the 4 steps below Verichat worked like a charm

#1 - call the (866) 490-2666 Blackberry support line - DO NOT CALL Cingular Care (they are clueless when it comes to Blackberry configuration/setup).

#2 - ask for the Blackberry (non-BES) plan you need (tiered/unlimited) AND ask that they specifically use one of the "new" plans. The newer plans are set to auto-provision your account to avoid all of the troubles of the past (got confirmation of this today).

UPDATE: my unlimited plan is BB UNL ADD ON - $44.99

#3 - configure your TCP option with the appropriate info - How to Configure Full Internet Access On BlackBerry

#4 - remove battery from your

, wait 30 seconds, reinsert - all is right with your Blackberry!!!

After getting all the tunnel timeout errors and the like I followed Kyle16's steps 3-4 (already had unlimited with Cingular) and now both BBWeather and BBToday work flawlessly! Thanks Kyle.

hf1khal · 02-21-2006, 06:33 PM

I was using IM+ trial and I liked it. The trial expired and went to buy and saw that there is a new version which I downloded and loaded. Once I set the setting I got this Error message text: Uncaught Exception: Java.lang.classCastException.

I have been in contact with IM+ support who told me to use the regular version (which requires cingular wap) and i am insisting on the the wap version that uses the BB.net. have done unistall and hard reset and so on and this message keeps on comming up. I also tried to go into the app after the messaage and the screen freezes and can not exit from it without shuting the BB down. I am using the 8700c. Any one that can help it would be greatly appreciated.

MadHatter · **Vodafone [UK] users TCP Settings -** 02-22-2006, 11:24 AM

Hi,

I just wanted to let others know that I finally got my blackberry working on a tcp/ip GPRS connection. After many posts on the internet that all seemed be providing the incorrect TCP settings for Vodafone UK, I finally found the correct settings (and not from Vodafone, even they couldn't provide this info)

I am using IM+ on the new Blackberry 8700 and pretty please with the functionality, well actually i'm more pleased just to get this damn thing working!

Set your TCP settings to:
APN: internet
Username: <blank>
Password: <blank>

Turn off the Blackberry and remove battery then startup again.

Settings I used on IM+ are:
Connection type: TCP/IP
Advanced Settings: Direct TCP / Nextel Support
Port: 443
Use SSL: No

Not sure if this works in Spain and other countries with Vodafone but worth a shot!

Chau

wavebourn · 02-22-2006, 05:45 PM

The new number is 1-800-331-0500, the rest is correct and works just fine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyle16

ok i spent hours upon hours researching this matter before calling Cingular. below is what i did and what you should do if you want to get the Internet configured correctly (so you can use 3rd party apps) and avoid the dreaded "could not open tunnel - failed" error message.......

btw - after performing the 4 steps below Verichat worked like a charm

#1 - call the (866) 490-2666 Blackberry support line - DO NOT CALL Cingular Care (they are clueless when it comes to Blackberry configuration/setup).

#2 - ask for the Blackberry (non-BES) plan you need (tiered/unlimited) AND ask that they specifically use one of the "new" plans. The newer plans are set to auto-provision your account to avoid all of the troubles of the past (got confirmation of this today).

UPDATE: my unlimited plan is BB UNL ADD ON - $44.99

#3 - configure your TCP option with the appropriate info - How to Configure Full Internet Access On BlackBerry

#4 - remove battery from your

, wait 30 seconds, reinsert - all is right with your Blackberry!!!

hansenc · 02-23-2006, 10:28 AM

Ok i just got off the phone with cingular and this is what the guy added to my account and now everything is working great

BB UNL ADD ON $44.99
/BB UNL ADD ON $0.00
WRLSS INTRNT XPRS PAY PER USE $0.00

zmetman · **Help! Still cannot run AIM -** 03-07-2006, 10:14 AM

I have an 8700c on Cingular (not a former AT &T customer) with the 4.X software already installed, have read through a number of posts regarding getting instant messaging to work, and still I cannot access AIM via Ramble (v. . I have already taken the following steps:

I have configured the TCP as directed:

Go to Options->TCP
APN: wap.cingular
Username: [email address]

Password: CINGULAR1

I also called Cingular to have the WIX Data Connect feature added to my account

I downloaded Ramble (V.0.9.10.8)

I changed my TLS default to "Handheld" form "Proxy"

I have rebooted the device a number of times.

After all of the above, I still get the message "Invalid Connection String: could not open tunnel-failed" when trying to log onto my AIM account.

Any ideas?

zmetman · 03-07-2006, 02:00 PM

UPDATE:

I don't know why it works (and the Cingular rep didn't think it would work), but I had them add "WRLSS INTRNT XPRS PAY PER USE $0.00", to my features, and now I can use Ramble.

Seattle18 · 03-07-2006, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zmetman

UPDATE:

I don't know why it works (and the Cingular rep didn't think it would work), but I had them add "WRLSS INTRNT XPRS PAY PER USE $0.00", to my features, and now I can use Ramble.

I have a feeling the "Pay Per Use" feature is going to actually charge you "Per Use" - call me crazy, but that's my feeling...

rushinws · **suncom -** 03-10-2006, 10:32 AM

can you add a suncom config

lawalk · **help cingular media-net -** 03-14-2006, 12:14 PM

I am currently a cingular subscriber and i am also subscribe to the medianet on a standard flip phone. my question is this: if i was to get a blackberry 7290, will my standard medianet subscription still works with blackberry to get my email on the go or just to browse the web.

thanks in advance

Corby · 03-16-2006, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Elliott

Hi Does anyone know how to set up Internet use from Vodafone NZ. Their current restrictions even prevent me from using bbSpell or MobiMate. talking with the so called support persons is a waste of time... We dont support 3rd Party Software...
Thanks for any assistance
Larry Elliott

I see there's not much response from NZ on this. I too called VFNZ with regard to not being able to access SSL websites. The response was "you cant". I spoke to a network guy who said, "can you access other sites?" "Then you should be able to access https:// sites". Still no further along...........

ChrisCarson · 03-16-2006, 03:23 PM

ChrisCarson · **US Cellular Internet -** 03-16-2006, 05:41 PM

Hi,
I am new to this forum and to BB. US Cellular just started selling BBs in December which is when I got a 7250.

Can anyone help me with internet access for US Cellular.
I know they work in conjuction with EasyEdge and QUALCOMM BREW for internet service.

http://easyedge.uscc.com/easyedge/jsp/faqs.jsp

http://www.uscc.com/uscellular/Silve...ome.html?id=20

Thanks Much for your help,
Chris