.....Time for a newbie to chime in with a stupid question

Using this method I could still use the internet on my BB7290....presumably with NO problems....and not pay the extra $20 a month for BES...not to mention the $15 I pay for unlimited text, pix messages etc...(T-Mobile). How does this affect SMS? Just set it to use GPRS for sending messages?

I called BB Data services at 18003043044 or 18003310500 option#1
Amazingly the woman helping actually had a BB! She lowered my bill by $20 since I was not intending to use enterprise connection and added my wap.cingular.com connection...checked the connection and it worked.

So...finally, connection as it should have been (and as it should have been sold to begin with) and less cash.

These forums help...thanks.

It would appear as though I got some bad information here. I went ahead and removed the $20 BB data plan from my account (T-Mobile) thinking that plugging in "wap.voicestream.com" as my APN would still allow me net access (email as well etc). Well, upon doing so I get the dreaded "data connection refused" message at the top of my screen. All email accounts have now disappeared. Not a major deal since I didn't have anything sitting in my inbox I really needed. It's all still on the server anyway. So onto my questions:

What did I do wrong here? A few of you stated that you removed this option and are still able to access the net and email. Perhaps I misunderstood what everyone is saying here. I can add this option again, the extra $20 won't kill me.

Secondly, should I add the BB data plan option back and switch SMS to use GPRS instead of GSM...can I do away with the unlimited text, pix messaging option on my account? I'm hesistant to do so since I use sms quite a bit. Ultimately I want to have my yahoo mail sent to my handheld, and net access. Will the $5.99 T-Mo internet plan suffice? I don't need to sync with an exchange server...if that matters any. Go easy, I'm still new to all this stuff. Thanks for any and all help.

***EDIT***

What is that $20 option called anyway? Is that BIS or BES? On the T-mo site it's just called "BlackBerry Unlimited Add-on". After a bunch of reading, I still don't get what either is or the differences between the two.

Thanks again.

I just read through this entire thread...again...

Can anyone confirm this one thing:

Do you NEED the "Unlimited BB add-on option" (T-Mo USA, it costs $20 a mo.) to do the stuff outlined in this thread? If so I seriously misunderstood. I thought this was a workaround to have net access without paying for this.

Try Options/Advance Options, Browser and in Default browser config select Internet Browser. I am with Cingular, tried this and worked!

Please help,

I can not find the tcp option on my 7250

i am running 4

Figured it out. In case anyone cares, the $20 option is not BES, the $29.99 option is. BES (to my understanding) is overkill for the average person. The above thread shows you how to use certain apps that would normally require BES, without subscribing to it. I misunderstood, and thought this thread would show me how to get internet access, email and such without subscribing the the $20 T-Mo BB plan. Needless to say, that didn't work. All is better now.

Yes, I do feel quite stupid.

For every oen having trouble with Tunneling errors and have cingular do these folowing steps.

First Call cingular.

Then

add the following APN address in.


wap.cingular

CINGULAR1

anyone ever figure out a way to get free web access through US Cellular? I'm lost here, and I asked if one of the cheaper third party ISP's would work and someone told me no because they have encryption and what not... sounds kwirky to me but if anyone can help please email me thank ya much!

Ummm... why call Cingular, will doing it without them jack me up? I did the APN thing and then VeriChat worked fine (course Yahoo's own messenger still won't work). Do I need to undo what i did, call, and then redo to avoid conflict or am i fine as i am?

i am in pakistan and i don,t have gprs in my blackberry,my network provider can,t provide gprs setting for blackberry but provide gprs for all other mobile sets like nokia samsung. how i activate gprs and wap browesing at my BlackBerry7290 v4.1.0.309
(plateform 1.8.0.146)
Thanks in advance

I realise this may very well be unlikely... but...

Does anyone know the configuration necessary for Orange France?

I have an 8700f.

Thanks.

tried the workaround for cingular last night because i couldn't get the bbtoday weather display to work, and after following the instructions, everything is now working!!! i already had the bb unlimited data plan, so doing this won't incur any extra charges,will it????? i am a new user of blackberry, so please go easy on me, and thanks for a great forum!! now with my unlimited data plan, i don't have bes, right?????

Can someone PLEASE tell me EXACTLY what I have to tell the stupid person on the other end of the phone at cingular to get WAP function for things like Opera?

Everytime I call, they say the *best* they can do is add a plan in addition to what I have that is a per use charge. Last time I saw this, it was like a $70 charge in addition to the BB UNL plan.

here is plan I have:
BB UNL Add On 07/21-08/20 44.99 44.99
BB UNL Retail 07/21-08/20 0.00 0.00
Includes:
Blackberry
GPRS

Multimedia-PayPerMsg 07/21-08/20 0.00 0.00

Text Msg Pay Per Use 07/21-08/20 0.00 0.00
Includes:
Int'l Text Incoming
Text/Instant Msgs

Any help with choosing the right words for the idiots on the other end of the phone would be helpful.

thanks

Anybody tried using your BB device as an internet gateway for your laptop? PC or Mac? I have tested using Nokia N70 as a internet gateway/modem and gives me a bandwidth of up to 400Kbps via GPRS or EDGE (way better than dial-up). I was wondering if anybody tried it using BB and if this is possible.

Thank you in advance.

I am new to this BB thing and I need help I have the service with T-mobile and they cant seem to help me. Now I bought this BB 723O from a friend and the image was wipe cause he used for a corporate acct. I have email and SMS and all that gooding stuff .but i dont have a internet brower and tmobile cant do nothing for me . I dont have and IT policy seems the seller can get for me due to Company Policies. can some one help me thanks

Yeah, where did you input this?

call to verify that it is configured properly on cingulars end

this isnt working for me

could anyone post the wap settings for an optus australia bb?... thanks if you can

I just realized that my 3rd party web browser (Minuet) works with the Rogers network *without* setting up the APN settings. The settings in the TCP menu are blank. I may have wiped them by accident without knowing it. Anyway, it used to need those settings but now it doesn't. Has something changed at Rogers?

Often I needed forward email conversations to my PC email address. I can easily forward the sender's emails but I cannot forward my emails to my other email account. I had to resend all those that couldn't get thru to my other account I am tired of resending all my emails. Any idea why it is like that?

Hal

Many TMobile customer reps are not very knowledgeable in BB area. They should have referred you to the BB tech. They do a good job helping to bail me out of BB problems.

It looks like you may need to do this:
click on OPTIONS
click on HOST ROUTING TABLE
Scroll down until you see highlighted phone number
Click on the highlighted ph nbr
Click on REGISTER NOW
close options

Your browser icon might show up on your screen.

Hal

Hi,

I wonder if someone more knowledgeable than I can help me.

I won a BB 7100 in a competition and it is signed up with T-Mobile UK. At the moment I can only use it as a mobile phone. I am trying to work out how to get a browser working on it, but I have no browser icon - in fact I don't have icons, I have text menus. I have tried putting in the APN for T-Mobile UK suggested at the top of this thread, but when I switch the BB on again, the field is blank again.

Any suggestions?

TIA

I JUST found out how to do this! Try this link!

Since I'm not allowed to post a link do a search for this term "BlackBerry As Modem For Laptop"

Hey i have a 7280 and im in alaska on cellular ones network (dobson) and this is not working for me, i dont have BES and i changed the apn to cellular1wap and restarted and there is still no browser and it says "data connection refused" is there something else i need to be doing? i have v4.0...

Newbite BB user here...I CANNOT find this setting anywhere. I've tried under settings, advanced options, browser options, network etc.

I'm on a corporate provided BB, 8707v on the Vodafone network. The about screen says the following:

v4.10.316 (Platform 3.0.0.41)

Any ideas where I can find this TCP option!?

The TCP option is to allow third party developers to define another APN to use in conjunction with the BlackBerry services over the blackberry.net APN.

However, within UMTS networks, only one primary PDP context is allowed at any time. For this reason, the TCP option has been removed from later versions

So, has anyone actually gotten this to work? I bought a used Blackberry 7730, put my T-Mobile SIM card in it, and enabled the T-MobileWeb GPRS plan on my account. The phone works great as just a phone/organizer, but I should be able to use T-MobileWeb like most other phones, right?

I put in the wap.voicestream.com apn setting, and reset my device, but I still get no connection for applications like Opera. Is the WAP service something I can actually use *without any Blackberry Service Books* ?

This is what the original post seems to suggest, but almost none of the follow up posts are success stories (Although I imagine that people would be less inclined to post success stories, and more inclined to post questions, as I am doing.)

I appreciate any advice, I'm just a poor student who got a good deal on a blackberry... $20-$30 a month seems a bit much to pay for the occasional google / ssh from my phone.

Welcome to BB Forums.

You must have a BlackBerry Data Plan in order to use any services besides voice and SMS. The T-MobileWeb service (or T-Zones) will not do anything for you at all.

No way (that I am aware of) to bypass that. It can't be done.

Sorry...

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Yikes!
So if I have a choice to:
1] access the web & pop3 email with another brand of phone using T-MobileWeb for $5.99 a month

OR

2] access the web & e-mail with a blackberry using a BlackBerry Data Plan for $19.99

what is the difference in service that leaves a $15 price gap?

Also, is there any way to get a BlackBerry Data Plan that doesn't go through T-Mobile without switching services (some kind of alternative provider for just the BB stuff)?

Can I use the blackberry to Dial-up to an ISP and use that internet connection on my voice minutes (not as a modem for a laptop)?

Sorry for the blank post!

Thanks for any help you can offer.

Thanks!

Okay ... the question is the title. I am paying a monthly fee of $20 for BB Unlimited so that I can google, get email from Yahoo email acct, etc.

Are you all saying that I can do all of this including full web browsing WITHOUT paying the monthly fee? Just need some affirmation / confirmation before proceeding.

Thanks guys ... I am not very techie and become ensnarled in all the "WAP BES MDA AMP" confusion. I will gladly follow the instructions and ask for help if necessary.

I have the 7105t and want to upgrade to the Pearl ... but first want to practice using the BB as a modem for my laptop and configuring web access.

Merlot,

This should answer your question:

No data plan, no net surfing or email on your blackberry.

Thanks for the speedy response. I notice that I wasn't the only one confused thinking the thread was a work-around for BB Unlimited !

Actually there should be no confusion:

Without a BlackBerry Data Plan, you have voice and SMS only. That's it.

Well, Well,

I feel silly ! I thought this thread was going to tell me how to avoid the $20 BB Unlimited charge. Ahem ... Now I think I get it .. My 7105t comes with ADP but TCP (ADP, TCP, BFD ... geek to me ... I'll fumble around for an acronym glossary) TCP connections are quicker. With BB versions 3.8 and up you do not need BES (BlackBerry Enterprise) which is something that corporations use for sync to work e-mail, etc.

This thread tells you how to configure your phone so that you are utilizing TCP connections (yes ??) Faster, more reliable (yes ??)

What else can TCP do for me?? Thanks in advance, everyone.

This thread (at least the first few threads) tell you how to set up the TCP parameters on your BB so you can use TPC enabled applications like BB Weather and Opera and others without being on a BES.

Nothing to do with cost savings or anything else - how to set up your BB to use TCP applications. Assuming your carrier supports it.

Nothing faster or more reliable.

okay so i just got a blackberry 7100t and do not pay the 20 dollar fee for internet from t-mobile. how do i get free internet acess still confused about this

Hello Mark and people, this is my case: bought a blackberry 7230 UNLOCKED and i am going to use it for GPRS and Wap navigation, i am not in the USA, my GSM provider has a GPRS infrastructure working ( ihave a Windows MObile phone and it´s working perfect). My question is, should i install the upgrade? or try to configure the APN settings before, i am not roaming, i will use another sim card for use the GSM service abroad USA, Europe. Thanks.