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Our company is located in Moscow, Russia and due to cellular operators do not provide BB service, we use BES located at headquarters abroad and SIM cards provided by their cellular operator. BB devices with foreign cards work fine via GPRS roaming.

However our users have to carry BB device and separate GSM phone for voice calls because they need local telephone number and to avoid high roaming charges for voice. GPRS roaming charges we can cope.

Question - is there any chance to use SIM card from local GSM operator instead of special SIM cards we get from abroad? Is it restriction of BB network infrastructure or such restriction is configured on BES? If we install local card we get "Data connection refused" error.

Would installation of our own BES help to solve that problem? Or maybe it is possible to somehow register local SIM cards with RIM infrastructure upon official request?

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Moscow Market Not Yet Ripe for BlackBerry
Wednesday, March 29, 2006. Page 9.

Moscow Market Not Yet Ripe for BlackBerry
By Conor Humphries
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BlackBerry, the device that brought mobile e-mail into mainstream U.S. corporate culture, remains something of a forbidden fruit in Moscow almost a year after its creator announced a deal to enter the Russian market.

The handheld terminals that allow users to effortlessly receive and reply to e-mail in real time are still not available in the city, and local operator Mobile TeleSystems refuses to give a firm date for introduction of the platform that supports them.

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MTS owns the Russian license for Blackberry, but they have never launched. According to my sources in Sistema (Their main shareholder) the reason for this is that the encryption on Blackberrys is too strong and the FSB does not want a communications product openly on the market that they cannot crack.



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Thanks for the digest, BigA!

We've been waiting for over the year since MTS first announced forthcoming BB service in Russia but now no hope that they would ever launch That's why I'm asking for a workaround ... BB is corporate standard so we are bound to it and would't look for others.

We've been using BBs more that a year but as we do not have our BES and get SIM cards abroad, I do not fully understand cellular carrier role. Is it just for billing matters or they have some infrastructure to authenticate users and pass traffic to RIM via dedicated channels? Why local SIM card with GPRS service is not enough?
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Question -

1. is there any chance to use SIM card from local GSM operator instead of special SIM cards we get from abroad?

2. Is it restriction of BB network infrastructure or such restriction is configured on BES? If we install local card we get "Data connection refused" error.

3. Would installation of our own BES help to solve that problem?

4. Or maybe it is possible to somehow register local SIM cards with RIM infrastructure upon official request?
Answers:

1. No. Only SIMs from cellular operator that offers blackberry data plan will work. Everything else will only let you use blackberry as too expensive cell phone.

2. It is restriction of BB network infrastructure, how blackberry device communicates with RIM servers through wireless network from cellular operator.

3. No, it will not. See answer #2.

4. No, it is not possible.
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Now all clear...

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