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berryapp 01-22-2012 09:15 PM

RIM's Lazaridis, Balsillie resign
 
After some intense pressure, finally it seems, Lazaridis, Balsillie to resign. Not sure what change we would see with the direction of the company. I hope this would do something good to the company. Detail news can be found here:
RIM's Lazaridis, Balsillie resign - Business - CBC News

daphne 01-22-2012 09:20 PM

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RIM's press release has more details
Research In Motion Names Thorsten Heins President and CEO

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Research In Motion Names Thorsten Heins President and CEO

• Board Acts on Recommendation of Co-CEOs to Implement Succession Plan
• Mike Lazaridis Named Vice Chair of the Board
• Jim Balsillie Remains a Director
• Barbara Stymiest Named Independent Board Chair
• Prem Watsa Named Independent Director

Waterloo, ON – The Board of Directors of BlackBerry® maker Research In Motion (RIM) (NASDAQ: RIMM; TSX: RIM) today announced that, acting on the recommendation of its Co-Chief Executive Officers to implement the succession plan they previously submitted to the Board, it has unanimously named Thorsten Heins as President and Chief Executive Officer. Mr. Heins was also appointed to RIM’s Board. The Board acted after conducting its own due diligence. Both appointments are effective immediately.

Mike Lazaridis, former Co-Chair and Co-CEO, has become Vice Chair of RIM’s Board and Chair of the Board’s new Innovation Committee. As Vice Chair, he will work closely with Mr. Heins to offer strategic counsel, provide a smooth transition and continue to promote the BlackBerry brand worldwide.

fourstringfuror 01-22-2012 10:38 PM

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This is good news.

daphne 01-22-2012 10:42 PM

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Video of new CEO Thorsten Heins
Meet Thorsten Heins, RIM President and CEO «Inside BlackBerry - The Official BlackBerry Blog

Actuallly 7 videos.

AaronR 01-23-2012 12:24 AM

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Not soon enough.
The Dynamic Duo are still on the Board (a negative).
The new CEO is an engineer, not a CEO, and will not satisfy US analysts.
Clean-up did not go far enough, and did not change the company enough.
Sorry, I really like my 9900 and bought it over an Iphone or a 'droid, but if the company is to survive they need to hire a top notch outside leader & deep six the nepotistic dead weight.

Cooper 01-23-2012 07:21 AM

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I still believe my rumour of Jim being removed from the co-CEO role was correct. It's just instead of only him, Mike has been asked to get lost too!

Anyways.. Stock is already up in the pre-market... obviously incredibly low volume, and it's only 57 cents (just earlier it was 71 cents ahead) so we'll see what goes on there.

Let's hope this means sticking to target dates, working to entice developers to the platform, and being truly competitive in the consumer market.

Cooper 01-23-2012 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronR (Post 1764511)
Not soon enough.
The Dynamic Duo are still on the Board (a negative).
The new CEO is an engineer, not a CEO, and will not satisfy US analysts.
Clean-up did not go far enough, and did not change the company enough.
Sorry, I really like my 9900 and bought it over an Iphone or a 'droid, but if the company is to survive they need to hire a top notch outside leader & deep six the nepotistic dead weight.

But Mike is plopping another $50 Million to up his stake in the company.... so obviously he cares about its regrowth and future success. ;-)

ifonline 01-23-2012 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Cooper (Post 1764536)
Anyways.. Stock is already up in the pre-market... obviously incredibly low volume, and it's only 57 cents (just earlier it was 71 cents ahead) so we'll see what goes on there.

The market is open, and it's now below Friday's close and currently falling. While a new CEO might be the fix that RIM needs right now, to have the new CEO say that nothing really needs to change at RIM suggest that, well... nothing needs to change. Right out of the gate this seems like a wasted opportunity.

Cooper 01-23-2012 09:12 AM

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I found the 8 minute "meet our new CEO" video was a little unflattering, but we'll have to see what happens in the next few months.

Obviously the most important to show that they're capable is to get OS 2.0 out early in Feb. From what I've seen it looks fairly complete now.

ifonline 01-23-2012 09:19 AM

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True. Talk is just talk, no matter what the new CEO says. Action, however... well, let's just see what happens over the next few months and beyond.

treez 01-23-2012 11:20 AM

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Stock down 7% . . .

Jadey 01-23-2012 12:19 PM

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Stock might be down, but for some reason, this news has spurned me on to check whether there is an OS upgrade for my BB. I haven't done that for MONTHS!

TBOLTRAM 01-23-2012 02:12 PM

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Eh, Apple had a change in leadership last year and I have not seen much in the way of change.

jsconyers 01-23-2012 02:19 PM

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The main difference is Apple was hitting record numbers and was, for a moment, the most valuable company in America, beating out Exxon. There isn't much need for change in that case. In RIM's case, there is a drastic need for change.

penguin3107 01-23-2012 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jsconyers (Post 1764622)
the most valuable company in America

Actually, they were the most valuable company on the planet.

penguin3107 01-23-2012 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TBOLTRAM (Post 1764619)
Eh, Apple had a change in leadership last year and I have not seen much in the way of change.

Apple: Breathing company, dying CEO.
RIM: Breathing CEO(s), dying company.

berryapp 01-23-2012 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by penguin3107 (Post 1764624)
Apple: Breathing company, dying CEO.
RIM: Breathing CEO(s), dying company.

Nice analogy:smile:

If RIM continues to over promise and under deliver, no change would do any good. That is what needs to change.

smoothadmin 01-25-2012 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TBOLTRAM (Post 1764619)
Eh, Apple had a change in leadership last year and I have not seen much in the way of change.

Yes but that was because Steve Jobs was dying and Apple was still a strong company. In this case RIM is falling apart. Apple's figures were released yesterday, they sold more iPhone's in a year than RIM did, same goes for the iPAD.

With the leadership changing at RIM there could be only a couple of things, RIM is sold, or there is an overhaul of the entire company thus what's left of the Playbook will most likely be scrapped.

Keep in mind RIM is losing billions each year at their current state while Apple makes billions more.

A.

TBOLTRAM 01-25-2012 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TBOLTRAM
Eh, Apple had a change in leadership last year and I have not seen much in the way of change.

While you may not have caught the intended irony of my comment I do offer you the following items that Apple will have to deal with since the change in leadership:

1. Foxcom is becoming more of a liability to Apple and the other companies that use it due to the labor issues. Something is going to have change or else there may be a major bump in the supply chain.

2. Steve Jobs had a "kill Android even if it kills Apple" mentality. I wonder if this will continue or if some sort of compromise will be reached. You don't attack companies that supply quite a bit of the material you use in your own products without concern of a a major bump in the supply chain. Note that some of this is being played out in the courts of Europe and Apple has not been winning cases recently.

My comment referred to no change in how Apple is dealing with the two issues above.

Cooper 01-25-2012 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TBOLTRAM (Post 1764855)
Quote:
Originally Posted by TBOLTRAM
Eh, Apple had a change in leadership last year and I have not seen much in the way of change.

While you may not have caught the intended irony of my comment I do offer you the following items that Apple will have to deal with since the change in leadership:

1. Foxcom is becoming more of a liability to Apple and the other companies that use it due to the labor issues. Something is going to have change or else there may be a major bump in the supply chain.

2. Steve Jobs had a "kill Android even if it kills Apple" mentality. I wonder if this will continue or if some sort of compromise will be reached. You don't attack companies that supply quite a bit of the material you use in your own products without concern of a a major bump in the supply chain. Note that some of this is being played out in the courts of Europe and Apple has not been winning cases recently.

My comment referred to no change in how Apple is dealing with the two issues above.

Foxconn has labour issues that will most likely always remain in some way or another. You think 300 employees threatening to jump is a problem? They have 900,000 employees. Apple did also state they are going to be more aggressive on pressing companies within their supply chain to adhere to basic labour requirements.

As far as the future success, the one thing that's being toyed around is that RIM should license the BB10 OS to other companies like Samsung and HTC who only make Android phones. There's a big enough market to have 3 or 4 OS companies, and then 5-6 handset companies.

RIM can then focus on maybe 2 or 3 handsets they make (maybe just 2?) and put the rest of it on their core software services (OS, "built in house" apps and 'cloud' computing)

We'll see, there's a lot in the next 4-6 months I'm expecting.


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