I have the Desktop software 'desktop manager 4.1' ......i'm not sure what to do with it?

Install the DM and install the 8700 software itself. You will have to get both those on a PC before you can do anything.

yes but that Bharti software will change the OS on my handheld. I only want to add the theme........I appreciate your instructions, but they aren't clear enough for me.....maybe I am stupid, but i can't understand....

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Find you carrier in the thread - who is it? You are not stupid but you need to be specific. First install DM 4.1 then install the carrier software. Then you can start to get somewhere.

Yes, it will change the OS, that's kind of the point. I know you fear the warranty issue, but this is 100% reversible, so you can change it back to your original installation if you ever need to, and no one will ever know you had a different OS version on there at one time in the past. I would suggest you go to the thread I made with the detailed instructions, follow them SLOWLY and CAREFULLY, and enjoy all the goodies and increased performance. If you ever need to revert back, that's just as easy.

@ outfocus, here's the instructions (although Vodafone has yet to post the software on their page, so you won't be able to complete the steps just yet).

- Install Desktop Software 4.1 onto your PC - this should be included with your handheld. If not, it can be found either on Vodafone (Australia)'s page (which its not posted there yet; see next step for link) or directly from RIM (select from the drop-down):

https://www.blackberry.com/Downloads...93E4F3BB068C22

- Download the Vodafone (Australia) 4.1 software here (again, this is NOT available yet from Vodafone, but this is where it will be published once it is available):

https://www.blackberry.com/Downloads...19656875EE557C

Do not mark the option to open Desktop Manager when finalizing the install.

- Go to C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\AppLoader and delete or rename Vendor.xml

- Go to C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\Shared\Loader Files\8700-v4.1.0.284_P2.0.0.120 and rename BlackBerry.alx to BlackBerry.alx.old

- Unzip the file (BlackBerry.zip containing BlackBerry.alx) linked below to C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\Shared\Loader Files\8700-v4.1.0.284_P2.0.0.120 - this file can be found here:

http://www.blackberryforums.com/atta...achmentid=1925

- Connect your handheld to your PC via USB and open Desktop Software 4.1 and it should prompt you to upgrade the Core Components. If it does not prompt (which it likely won't but it might), open Application Loader and click Next - you will notice 'Upgrade' listed next to the Core Components - click Next and backup if you wish to do so (probably a good idea).

I can't be 100% sure on the BlackBerry.alx file, as I do not have their software available to download and look at. In the past, the ALX file from one vendor to the next for the same version software has been the same (although the code could vary slightly - just up to the carrier QA process), so the above should work with no issues.

P.S. - As mentioned, depending on carrier changes in the QA process, the same version number code/OS could be the exact same from one carrier to the other. So, as a test, you may want to simply install the Bharti software, delete the Vendor.xml file, and then open Desktop Manager. If it prompts you to upgrade the handheld, then just cancel it and uninstall the Handheld Software. However, if it does not, then I don't see any reason why you shouldn't move forward.

Hmmm... has anyone noticed anything weird after doing all this stuff?

I just tried to load IM+ on my BB and when I get to the final step, it says that it's going to load IM+ but remove CryptMagic and the Zen theme cause they aren't supported.

Also, the first 5 icons in Applications are not the ones that show up on my Home Screen. My Home Screen has Messages, SMS, Browser, Address Book and Calendar and I can't move them around. Not a big deal but it's interesting that some of you can .

I'm on 4.1.0.258 now.

In "ZEN" go to Options>Home Screen>Organize Applications>Click App and "move application" pops up.

good luck.

As for it prompting you to remove the zen theme and various other modules, it doesn't have an ALX file to reference for those files, so anytime you use Application Loader it will remove non-reference modules (those w/o ALX). Sorry for the extra redundancy in statements above. This can be due to your loading an application through Application Loader then deleting the source files from your PC or loading a module/application through JavaLoader without the use of ALX and Application Loader.

@ outfocus, a shortcut to your issue could be to simply use JavaLoader to load the theme. I guess I forgot to mention that.

- Download the theme from here:

https://webdisk.ucalgary.ca/~jkon/bb...en_320x240.cod

Be sure to save it as a .cod file. In the event that you have WinZip installed, it will save as a .zip file. You can either choose 'All Files' from the 'Save type as' drop-down and then change the extension in the 'File name' field to .cod instead of .zip; or you can rename it once you've downloaded from .zip to .cod - your choice.

- Download JL_Cmder from here and unzip JavaLoader.exe to your Desktop:

http://www.blackberryforums.com/atta...tachmentid=782

- Open a command-prompt and type the following:

cd Desktop (press <enter>)
JavaLoader -u load net_rim_theme_bb_dimension_zen_320x240.cod (press <enter>)

That should load the module and reboot your phone.

I'm a Rogers subscriber and just loaded the Bharti O/S (4.1.0.284_Bharti) Now I have no browser capability or icons for browsing. Any ideas what is wrong?

hold Alt-Num-Del this gives a reset- I just did the same thing and they appeared.

Wirelessly posted (8700c: BlackBerry8700/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)

Or for your browsers go to Options >Advanced>Host Routing Table. Click trackwheel and select register now.

If that doesn't work (it didn't work for me when I lost my browsing icons) go to Options>Advanced Options>Host Routing Table, then click the trackwheel and click on Register Now. You will get a message saying that that your handheld is now registered to the wireless network. The icons should then re-appear. If not, then reset your device and they will be there.

You beat me to it.

Thanks Stinsonddog and everybody else. That did the trick and I'm really pleased.

Yes, that worked many thanks jibi......also, if I change the OS, will that unlock my device? I need to unlock it cause I changed carriers to use this, and the new carrier (Vodafone) has no reception at my house and I work from home......?

Many thanks to Seattle18 too for trying, much appreciated- you guys are da best!!!!!

Nope, that won't unlock it... if it were only that simple. There are a few shops online that can do it for you, though - I believe Vodafone was one of the easier carriers to unlock.

I've just encountered what seems to a major fault with this theme.

When I was 'hiding' applications I must have accidentally hid the options button, and now, can't get into options at all as it is no where to be seen. Is there a way to show the hidden menus without going into options???

I am really stumped, like I've been locked out of my phone!!

please advise.............

sorry, i can't help but laugh...

Try it, and we can laugh together