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Old 05-09-2006, 11:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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current Tmo (4.1.0.284) and Tesla sp? and Bharti BUT what is the difference?

Bharti is newest and fixed an icon problem So I see..or at least was told.

Is it worth getting . I was afraid because I had problem when upgrading to a different OS 4.1 Hong Kong.

But I suppose this is different since as I am told this 8700g is the generic version of the BB , Tmo did not have their own version like the 7105t. So it shoulld be fine?

Which one do I get?

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Telstra is the latest of the OS's. IT'S the one that fixes the home screen icon issue.

Bharti was the first we found to have the Zen theme and fixed the major bugs like ringer volume, etc.

If you follow the upgrade instructions to a "T", you'll likely join the large group of us that have seen little to no issues. Are there bugs? In some cases, but such is the case of new OS's that have less field testing in the U.S.
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Telstra is the latest of the OS's. IT'S the one that fixes the home screen icon issue.

Bharti was the first we found to have the Zen theme and fixed the major bugs like ringer volume, etc.

If you follow the upgrade instructions to a "T", you'll likely join the large group of us that have seen little to no issues. Are there bugs? In some cases, but such is the case of new OS's that have less field testing in the U.S.
1. What WAS the home screen icon issue?

2. Was what I said about being told that Tmobile does not have its own version, it is using a generic version, so I am not really messing with 'their' OS right?

3. So I think I am a pro from the one I am sending back and the 7105
download the OS, install, remove the vendor. Remove or rename the bl....alx Download the bl...alx and put it where the one is I renamed or removed.

The weirdest thing happened. I already did this work. (but I will redo and get the Telstra) but the blackberry.alx and blackberry.alx.old were there when I installed. Is that because the blackberry.alx.old or the whole install left remnants in the registry??

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All carriers use a blanket OS, in terms of the applications. The platform (or radio code) is going to be, to an extent, generic as well - although there will be various fixes applied to it by the carriers, in coordination with RIM, within their release of the code. This is one of the reasons why some carriers take a longer time to release their branding of the OS. In general, these small fixes to the radio code will only affect a handful of users, which is why most of us that teeter with the various OS releases from the various carriers.

In terms of generic OS, I would say that the Bharti OS would actually be more generic in platform code than the T-Mobile code. Usually the Asian carriers are quick out of the door, whereas the American and Canadian (and European) carriers have the budgets and quality concern and customer service groups to do adequate audits of the OS's and run them through regression testing.

The only thing T-Mobile doesn't have of their own for the 8700 is a theme. This was present on the 7100 models (that horrid cloud crap).

There is very little (if anything) stored in the registry concerning the handheld installations, so that wouldn't have been your issue. If you uninstalled the handheld software from Add/Remove, then there is a possibility (especially with multiple versions of the handheld software installed) where the uninstall program will not remove the actual software from your PC. Just throw that up to quarky behaviour, most likely.
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YOu can write and teach...thank you. I hope asking that about the generic thing is not able to be searched for because I am aware of that. Paranoid in face. but like YOu said, I am hyper at times and miss stuff... lol thx . and I will assume the telstra is save and get that one. cya later
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All carriers use a blanket OS, in terms of the applications. The platform (or radio code) is going to be, to an extent, generic as well - although there will be various fixes applied to it by the carriers, in coordination with RIM, within their release of the code. This is one of the reasons why some carriers take a longer time to release their branding of the OS. In general, these small fixes to the radio code will only affect a handful of users, which is why most of us that teeter with the various OS releases from the various carriers.

In terms of generic OS, I would say that the Bharti OS would actually be more generic in platform code than the T-Mobile code. Usually the Asian carriers are quick out of the door, whereas the American and Canadian (and European) carriers have the budgets and quality concern and customer service groups to do adequate audits of the OS's and run them through regression testing.

The only thing T-Mobile doesn't have of their own for the 8700 is a theme. This was present on the 7100 models (that horrid cloud crap).

There is very little (if anything) stored in the registry concerning the handheld installations, so that wouldn't have been your issue. If you uninstalled the handheld software from Add/Remove, then there is a possibility (especially with multiple versions of the handheld software installed) where the uninstall program will not remove the actual software from your PC. Just throw that up to quarky behaviour, most likely.
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1. What WAS the home screen icon issue?

Just to answer this question quickly...3rd party apps were showing up in the Zen theme as generic DOS-like windows. Purely a cosmetic issue...didn't have any bearing on functionality, and only affected the icons if they were place in the "top 5" of the respective Zen theme.

The Telstra OS update fixed that issue.
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Just to answer this question quickly...3rd party apps were showing up in the Zen theme as generic DOS-like windows. Purely a cosmetic issue...didn't have any bearing on functionality, and only affected the icons if they were place in the "top 5" of the respective Zen theme.

The Telstra OS update fixed that issue.
Yes it did. But at such a price. Now you can't turn off the names of the applications on your homescreen. It's so silly... as if we don't recognise the Message icon!

I have a new 8700 on the way because of a microphone problem on my current model. I think I'm going to be intrepid and edit the Blackberry.alx file for the Rogers .284, i.e. get the proper radio stack and stick with the original Zen. Jibi discussed how to do the edit here (at Post #6).
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Yes it did. But at such a price. Now you can't turn off the names of the applications on your homescreen. It's so silly... as if we don't recognise the Message icon!

I have a new 8700 on the way because of a microphone problem on my current model. I think I'm going to be intrepid and edit the Blackberry.alx file for the Rogers .284, i.e. get the proper radio stack and stick with the original Zen. Jibi discussed how to do the edit here (at Post #6).
I thought I understood it. ....telstra fixed an icon problem. Now you can't turn off the name of the application on your homescreen? why would you want to. can u explain?
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I thought I understood it. ....telstra fixed an icon problem. Now you can't turn off the name of the application on your homescreen? why would you want to. can u explain?
Well, I like the clean home screen with whatever wallpaper I have chosen. I don't need the app names for my five chosen applications: Messages, SMS, Messenger, Browser, and Address. I know those icons! So adding app names to their left as I scroll up and down is superfluous and also just plain ugly.
Note that I'm not putting a third-party app in those top five so the new icon advantage does not apply to me. Admittedly, my cost-benefit analysis might be different if it did...
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