Just got an e mail from Apple that the new 3G iPhone will launch July 11th. Torn between staying with my BB and holding out for the BOLD or going with the iPhone....Decisions, decisions........Seems certain now the BOLD will launch after the 3G iPhone from AT&T. Guess this announcement cements the fact BOLD will launch after iPhone.

Im going with iPhone... Just sold my old iPhone 8GB for $395 and My iPod Touch 16GB for $275

i would wait for both with a public release to make sure there are no problems with either. i have a feeling there will be battery issues with the iphone but thats just my opinion

decisions, decisions...I cant decide!!!

iPhone for me. the price is the deciding factor for me. no way Bold can come in that low.
July 11th i gotta be changing the signiture and visiting this site alot less.

How much are they going to put the 3G iphone out for?

bold...

iphone2 still cannot do MMS, record video, no bluetooth stereo, no cut and paste, and NO BLACKBERRY CONNECT! i send a lot of mms messages and i use my curve for bluetooth stereo A LOT.

I got the news of the new iPhone this afternoon. I'm not even impressed. I'm saying this and I'm a hardcore Apple user. I love all of their products and I think the iPhone has a ways to go before it can compete with a Blackberry. I've used blackberrys for a long time and I bought an iPhone in April. It's a fantastic device for a lot of reasons but it just isn't the workhorse of a device for a professional on the go.

I went back to my blackberry for two reasons... Email and the keyboard. The keyboard on the iPhone is good enough but when ya need to bang out a long email or ya send A LOT of texts in a single day ike I do... the iPhone keyboard (and the predictive text) is a pain in the butt! And about the email... I just didn't like the idea that there could be emails in my inbox and I wasn't getting them instantly.

The BOLD will blast the 3G iPhone out of the water. It might be a bit more expensive but who cares...I'm anxiously waiting for the BOLD to hit the AT&T stores.

There are still issues with the Bold's battery also.

As I mentioned previously, I have an evaluation unit (one of two sent to us) and both of them have extremely weak batteries. After speaking to RIM, steve assured me that when it is released all the issues will be sorted and we should see fairly powerful batteries.

As an example, I was using my Bluetooth Stereo Kit the over the weekend so I can control the music from my Garden. Unfortunately the bettery only lasted just over 90 minutes. On a side note, the range was incredible. I have a 30ft garden and with the windows open I was able to change tracks from the end of the garden.

I would be willing to bet that RIM's final device will pack more power than what they gave you to evaluate. No way RIM will deliver a device with poor battery performance.

You got to love Apple selling some models of the iPhone2 for only $200 dollars. I wonder if they will give you an extra battery for it! <vbg>

Here you go again taking yet another cheap shot at the iPhone. How about reading the iPhone specs? Then again, you wouldn't let facts get in your way of iPhone hating.

Sad. You.

yep, here YOU go again!

Did they add cut and paste to the iPhone2? They must have, right?

Wirelessly posted

Probably going with the iPhone, but as I type this post on my BB, I'm now having 2nd thoughts.

Wirelessly posted

Probably going with the iPhone, but as I type this post on my BB, I'm now having 2nd thoughts.

I have customers with iPhones and have to say that I can't stand the keyboard. Don't think that the apps are that good either.

My BlackBerry Curve is much easier to type, built in GPS which is quite handy with Google Maps and my synchronisation with my Outlook/Exchange Server/BES is excellent.

I would not chose an iPhone over a BlackBerry in a million years.

Maybe I am stupid or something, but what MORON would pay $395 for a 1st Gen Iphone right now?

Yes, but the new iPhone 2 has GPS and will supposedly sync with Outlook Exchange.

It is a tough decision, to say the least.

I just wish Blackberry had a MobileMe type of thing where I could go on the web, and access my email, contacts and calendar and have them all synced to the phone.

I'm a first gen iPhone owner and I'm very happily switching back to BB when the Bold comes out. iPhone is a great device, but I'm warning BB owners who are switching that it DOES NOT do the stuff we love on BB's well. If you prefer the iPod and browsing features, then switching is fine. But for everything else, BB's are better.

Warning about the phone portion of the device: it's terrible. I thought the sound quality was okay at first but then when I played with a Curve for a while people couldn't believe the difference. One sounded like a landline, and the iPhone sounded like a 1997 cell phone.

But you still have that awful keyboard.

I also use mScorecard to keep track of my golf scores. Works on Nokias, Palm, Windows Mobile and BlackBerry. Does it have an iPhone version? NO.

iPhones are a nice gadget, I grant you that.

The BOLD is always on my mind..
The BlackBerry Bold is the buzz word right now in the world of BlackBerries. As most probably expected AT&T is to gain the BlackBerry Bold, also known as the BlackBerry 9000 before anyone else in July with the price tag of $300.00. While Verizon, Sprint, and T-Mobile customers will have to wait until September.

$300?

Is that with a contract?

Wow.

They are brave with the iPhone going for $200.

The strange thing is though; T-Mobile subscribers will have to fork out an extra $50.00, which does seem a little unfair.

I think I will see how the CDMA devices (Possible Bold and Thunder) pan out. But I amvery interested in the reviews once people start picking them up.

This is not a good versus evil decision - it's more about you than about the phone.

If the center of your life involves messages and applications and more work than play, and if you do a lot of typing on a handset, wait for Bold.

If the center of your life involves entertainment and games and music and videos and you generally don't type much on the handset, go with the new iPhone next month; that's especially true if you (like my wife) plan on spending that government stimulus check to buy an iPod.

As to the timing - I have no certain information about this - but I believe it's likely that Apple twisted AT&T's arm to get 90 days in the 3G clear before the Bold would be approved to compete.

Apple could have added functionality that would have helped it compete more favorably with the BB. Unfortunately they blew it.

No cut and paste, can't customize email alerts so you can hear them, MMS ??

How about rubberizing the sides like the curve so it doesn’t slip out of your hands, they just don't get it...

They could have improved their biggest nemesis the keyboard by adding auto text like Blackberry.

It will be a great entertainment device especially at $199, but you still need to carry a Blackberry for the serious stuff.

Hello Bold....

I like the tone of your post but you miss the fact that the keyboard is entirely based on personal preference, same as everything else. It is indeed about the user and not the phone, buy and use what you want. Especially now that they both do very similar things.

"It's hard to type on a piece of glass (iPhone)"

BlackBerry's RIM Founder Mike Lazaridis


...and yet RIM actually is prepared to release a first Touchscreen BlackBerry Thunder. Isn't it ironic?

I use both a curve and iPhone on a daily basis and I am a little torn over the iPhone2 or the bold. My random iPhone/Blackberry thoughts........

1. It is so hard to go back to the small blackberry screen after using the huge iPhone screen for awhile.

2. I commute two hours a day, so the web browsing on the iPhone comes in really handy. The browser combined with the big screen is awesome.

3. I watch alot of tech videos on the iPhone during my commute. Once again the media player, plus the large screen really help.

4. Email is far far better on the blackberry. It takes about five clicks on my iPhone to check multiple email accounts.

5. JiveTalk on the blackberry is awesome. I guess there will be plenty of 3rd party IM apps though for the iPhone

6. I love the iPhone keyboard and can type way faster on the iPhone than I can on my blackberry.

7. Heavy 3rd party app users will probably find a far better selection on the iPhone than the blackberry.

8. I love both devices, and the competition between the two will makes things better for the consumer.

engadget has an article about the bold and it will launch on June 25th for AT&T and Rogers, so it will release before the iPhone 3G

You mean you can't tell on an iPhone when you get a new email?

And what is the difference between an MMS and an Email?

I basically just use the emails, calendar, contacts, web browser and telephone on my device.

$199 sounds good up front but i hear the rogers data wont be $30 like Att&T

look for $39.99 or $49.99 capped data + a $20 min voice plan

this fon is all "back loaded costs"

i think if they made the .mac/mobile me package $29.99 a yr they would sell more than 5x the subscriptions

Yes there is an alert sound for new email on iphone, its not too loud though. Also you can see on homepage the number of emails.
The new phone has new speakers and Jobs says its louder, have to wait and see.
I have no issues with it myself as I have the sound turned off as I check every so often by habit.

MMS is like a text message only your sending video / picture.

mortys, yeah with AT&T its just the same as other 3G data plans - per eze.
but are you surprised that Rogers is more $$, aren't they always more than the US counterparts?

You are right. I look at the price people are asking for a iPhone on eBay and laugh. Their value has diminished with the news of a $200 iPhone2

how about this

"There would be penalties for users who do not activate the iPhone in the first 30 days, AT&T said, in a move aimed at reducing the number of customers who buy an iPhone and tweak the software so they can use it on another network." - reuters.

If thats true, you will have alot of angry hackers / resellers out there.

new iphone wont be availble for purchase without a contract...look for the price to hold unless all current owners upgrade and dump!

currently and after july11th where can u get an iphone without contract????

I didn't see it as a cheap shot but rather a comment based out of fact. When your iPhone battery dies you have to find an outlet and plug it in, when you iPhone battery will no longer hold a decent charge you have to send it in.

When you BlackBerry battery runs down you can either plug it in, swap out your dead battery for a fresh one, then you can either put it in th cradle with battery slot or charge them when you get home.

Either way Apple doesn't let you field swap their battery it wouldn't matter whose battery is more miserly on power consumption if you can't swap it your self.

Maybe it was a nice comment but it was based on facts. This from a big Apple user but not a blind one.

PPCMD, check the other thread for your "blind" comments.

As for the Battery, it is what it is, If it will not work for your needs then do not buy it. Simple as that.

I will likely get both why? I say why not? I won't abandon my BB's but I have a 3rd line available as an employee so maybe Ill get an iphone2 just for the fun of it

and they say I am snippy

yeah your right on both counts, I was too snippy there. and yes they do say your snippy.

i think its a habit, people have been really well behaved today with all the iphone talk. Kudos to everyone on that.