I just got familiar with the Javelin. Now that's what I'm talking about! Beats the Bold in screen, camera, keyboard, double the ram, battery, profile. Has Wifi (who needs 3g really if you have that?), and gps. Just get it out RIM.

The Sidekick has always had auto-text, and I wouldn't consider buying a mobile device that doesn't have it. It's just too important. The other typing conveniences are nice too, although I still prefer the Sidekick's double click system for setting caps lock and alt lock. In comparison to either device, text entry on the iPhone is unbearable. For those of us who make extensive use of the text-entry apps, these are priority features.

I had an iPhone for 25 days and ATT service was soo bad I returned it but I do believe it was the iPhone since a lot of friends on ATT with different phones had no problems. 90% of my calls were dropped. I love some of the iPhone features as well as some of the Blackberry features (I have the 8330) but have come to the conclusion there is no perfect phone.....YET! I really mised copy and paste.....hated the iPhone keyboard....love the Blackberry keyboard - especially the ability to capitalize a letter by just holding down the key. Loved the iPhone screen - hated the Apple arrogance.

You are not alone. Dropped calls on the 3g iPhone is a problem for a lot of people. ATT won't admit to it but it's all over the place. Seems the 3g network is the culprit and the phone loses signal even if you're standing still. The 2g is fine. Go figure. I think they'd better admit to the problem and then fix it and publish their solution. I can't deal with dropped calls. No 3g for me!

The new iPhone update fixed the drop call issues. I get one every once in a blue moon.

Take you BB and Iphone and BB down to the Bahamas and turn them both on. Which one will cost $100 more? Like that tiny touchpad?

Had my iPhone now for some time, call it luck but I have not had a single dropped call yet, guess it depends on geographical area .... surprised to see so many people talking about capitalization, correction, copy and paste, and space twice for a period ?? The iPhone easily accommodates all of this with ease. OS stability and crashes not an issue at all on iPhone, compared to constant random reboots and freezing on my BB Curve and Bold !

Have never been to the Bahamas, not likely to happen for a while. I base comparisons with devices on a local coverage simulation, LOL... Bahamas !?!

Fair enough, but it's worth checking for those who travel a lot. A buddy of mine got an ATT global data plan specifically because he was going to Vietnam. Turns out Vietnam wasn't included even though the sales staff thought otherwise. The datastream on his iPhone cost him over $1,000/day over there. I took my BB (also on ATT) but got very little additional data charges because of the way BB compresses data and because it doesn't automatically download everything on an incoming message/attachment. Yeah, I know, in a perfect world you'd be able to see a message on your smartphone just as you'd see it on your computer, but until that data comes for free . . .

Meanwhile, I got my BB 9000 with some trepidation about being locked into ATT's 3G network and suffering the same dropped calls that my iPhone friends were suffering. Turned out to be no problem at all. I've had the 9000 for 8 weeks now with 0 dropped calls while my damn friends keep calling me on their freakin' iPhones with lousy connections and constant drops. I'd heard it was the ATT network being unable to handle the huge, uncompressed data the iPhone lives off of, but maybe it's a device problem as well?

I travel with a Mac and love the Apple products, but just couldn't live with the touchscreen and the problematic email/data when in remote corners of the world.

A friend of mine went to Toronto for the weekend and was faced with the same thing. Had over $1600 for two days in Toronto using IPhone.

Here are a couple of other things that I don't think were discussed...

Since IPhone is an AT&T phone (I know there are ways around this... but for the most part AT&T) the IPhone is very expensive in data plan and talk.

I have been with TMo forever and I am now on a plan for two phones unlimited everything (except texts...we only get 400 texts each) and it is costing me $152/month out the door with taxes and everything. The IPhone plan for unlimited everything would be hundreds of dollars more per month.

The Blackberry is a great phone and so is the new IPhone. I am glad they are pushing each other. However, like another person here, I use the BB Tasks so much that I couldn't live without it. I have close to 300 tasks on mine and it is great that I can sort by category.

Good luck either way you go.

.......to each his/her own. Right now I am enjoying the iphone. For 3 years prior to getting an iphone I was a complete Blackberry fanatic. In a year or 2 maybe I'll be enjoying something else. Variety is the spice of life and if you close your mind to new and different things the world will pass you by and you won't even know it. Live a little BB peeps.

As Argon points out in his tagline, there's a natural evolution to all the gadgets we use. I'm on the BB 9000 today and I picked it for very particular reasons that would not be relevant to everyone. The iPhone is a beautiful piece of equipment but I can't use it for what I need today. That situation obviously won't last forever.

iPhone needs its cellular bandwidth to perform like a wifi connection in order to deliver data in the way the iPhone likes it. For right now cellular just can't keep up with iPhone. But that won't last forever. My other gripe is the softkey interface but that now has also been solved (there's an aftermarket keyboard that plugs into the iPhone).

The BB is bulletproof for global travel because it compresses its data to fit over the cellular networks. While you won't get the beautiful presentation of your laptop (or iPhone) on WiFi, you will get your email and that's great. I guess the BB's operating system is an advantage for now, and for as long as the world's cellular network is bandwidth constrained, but that won't be forever will it?

When the network can keep up with the iPhone (and they let you change the battery and don't charge so much for all the decorative HTML that's coming with your email!) then I will definitely look at one. For now it's the BB9000 and MissingSync which allows BB to sync with my MacBook Pro seamlessly.

vventimiglia,
I got an iPhone 3G as an upgrade from a Palm Device, the next day my wife was a proud owner! Don't get me wrong it is a great device, but it is a toy with some productivity options!

1. Just wondering when you take pictures on your iPhone, how do you move all of them on your computer to access later?
2. Notes on your iPhone Do not sync with Outlook, or any other method to edit or change!
3. Security, Security, Security my friend. If my BB is lost or stolen, i can wipe it and transferred all the data to a new device in less than 15min (calendar, notes, contacts, everything!!!). They cannot do anything and that phone will no longer have any confidential info. Oh BTW this is all remotely done using the BB BES, BPS. NO USB, or slow BT.
4. Business use. I can track all text, calls, emails, calendar, when the phone was turned off, when it was turned off, where it is now, etc...
5. Now you have copy and paste, but what about editing PP, word and excel documents for free!? It is included in my BB, now you can read them, but got to pay for the App now.

So what is your point, browsing the web and listing to music, oh and play a few game, or business tool?

iPhone is like using a hammer to fasten a screw, it will work but much harder and it looks bad!

OH YEAH, BTW no need for cell reception to use GPS on my BB Bold!

To each there own. Plenty of Business gets done daily on iPhones.

BTW - #1 is pretty easy, if you had ever sync'd an iphone you know the answer. Also you can mass email the pictures as well.

#3 If your iphone is connected to Exchange you can also remote wipe the device just as easily as you can with a BB. And by the way you can't connect your BB to exchange unless your company is using BES. With the iphone you can connect to Exchange out of the box without any other software. Way to come right of the box on your second post calling the iphone a toy. You are well on your way to fanboi status!

False. My BB is connected to my company's (Exchange server) email system, and is so efficient that if I'm sitting at my desk in front of my computer new emails arrive on my BlackBerry before they arrive on Outlook.
I wouldn't call it a toy, that's admittedly a bad way to refer it just because you don't prefer it - but calling him a "fanboi" when you yourself are probably the #1 iPhone "fanboi" on BB forums is as much out of order as him callling your beloved iPhone a toy.

Convertable vs Hardtop.
PC vs MAC
Ford vs Chevy
Harley vs rice
etc. vs etc.

Its all about what you like. Enjoy your device but dont force it upon everyone.

Samsung a637 FTW!

I guess I should have said connect to Exchange with folder, contact and calendar support. While it is true you connect to an exchange server through IMAP and BIS, all you get is new email, nothing else. The iphone uses Active Sync which gives you all your folders, plus contact and calendar sync with the server.

Not really a fanboi. I actually want to try Android phone and if ATT releases one, I may do it. I'm not married to any device or company.

Hello..
According to me Blackberry is the best phone. It is very excellent in internet connectivity and also has good features. Though Iphone 3g has better screen, Blackberry has good keyboard to use. So I only prefer Blackberry.

Well then I guess the argument is over!

By every update, the OS of iPhone is getting better and better.

the iPhone is a sleek device. It's fun, has a ton of apps, and great for multimedia in general. If someone wants that as their priority in a phone, then great. buy an iPhone.

The BlackBerry is a great phone. Push Email is fantastic. BBM is off the charts, and it's a great 'work' phone (i couldn't find a better word. pardon me.). If that's your priority, buy a BlackBerry.

Each person has a specific idea of what they want in a phone. some might not even want either of the two, and may go for a Windows Mobile phone.

Someone may want a Palm Pre. Great. Buy it. I'm sure it's got what that person needs in a phone.

Someone doesn't want to use GPRS and is happy simply texting and making phone calls. And probably likes a simple Nokia or Sony Ericsson. Then great. Buy it.

It's all about what a person really wants as their priority in a phone. Some might want a BB cause it's 'cool' or 'in fashion' or 'cause everyone has it'. same with the iPhone. this debate can go on, but hey.. each to their own right?

I own the 3GS 32GB and after downloading three pages worth of free apps, I get the sense that many of them are impractical, that they are merely shortcuts for what your browser can do. Really, is there an absolute need for Epic Fail? The apps I use the most are Wikipedia, Bank of America, iStockManager, eBay and PayPal, and Google Maps if I get lost. The rest are nice to have, but I can't see how useful they are. Google Earth is fascinating, and I would love to see Google Earth take me to Victoria Falls or the Eiffel Tower. However, to me it's just an Ooh and Ahh sensation. I get far more satisfaction receiving and responding immediately to emails from my business or personal contacts. It's cool when you send an email to a Blackberry user and get a response back in five minutes.

I get that feeling about a lot of iPhone apps. While I admit some are cool and amusing to mess around with, the "80,000 + apps" doesn't give me incentive to get an iPhone. When the highlight apps of my roommate's iPhone are a Zippo lighter app and a pistol app to merely play with these objects as though they were real, I'm all set.

The best way I can think to put it, without necessarily being as narrow-minded as it may sound, is the iPhone is typically for those who are multimedia geared, and want to just pick it up and have fun with it, without necessarily thinking about the functionality of the device.

Blackberry users on the other hand, tend to be less multimedia oriented, but more functionality-driven. It's great for e-mail (typically busines), batteries are easily interchangable, it's not difficult to take apart a BB if need be, etc. While I would like certain apps such as iTunes and Wikipedia (maybe I haven't looked hard enough? ), I'm just fine using Pandora and my browser!

Doing it by having an iPod Touch. No need contract, no need AT&T connection issues.

Right now, simultaneously enjoying both a Blackberry and two Nokia Symbian devices. The Blackberry has replaced my Windows Mobile. Later I hope to get Android, WebOS and Maemo devices, all unlocked on the GSM line. That way I can have a "smartphone" of the week everytime I get bored by switching the SIM from one phone to another.

I really like my iPod Touch, by extension the iPhone. But it feels way too much of a mobile computer, whereas the Blackberry feels more like a mobile data terminal. Whereas the iPod Touch circa iPhone works very well as a handheld computer, my Blackberry Tour feels like the very epitome of Nokia's famed quote: "Connecting People". Yeah, a people connector.

If you want lots of apps to play with, get the iPhone.

If you got lots of friends, family members and contacts, get the Blackberry.

I have an 8310, and i might move up to the Bold or Storm soon, But for now i'm happy!!!

The one thing I like about the Iphone is being able to jail break it and finding the kool stuff on Cydia!! But after Jail breaking so many of my Co workers Iphones.. I notice most of them dont really no anything bout the phone or what it can do! They just like having the thought of being able to show they got an IPhone!!

They look at my out dated 8310 and see some of the kewl themes I have and want them!! or how fast pages from the internet open on my BB than their Iphone!! Plus i can send emails,text and MMs faster than them...

So to me the BB is better in most ways.. But some Iphone

[*]This may be a moot point, but when I had my Windows Mobile phone, a touch screen was so unwieldy that I told myself, "Touch screen... never again."[/list]
I now own my first touch screen phone. I will never own another one. I may get a hybrid, but I will never again rely on a touch screen keyboard.

Windows Mobile devices use resistive touch screens. The iphone, Storm and Android phones use capacitance touch screens which are far more finger friendly. WM is garbage, don't dismiss touch screens because M$ can't seem to get it right.

The iPhone is a cool gaget with
1. Built in ipod
2. Best native apps(youtube, safari, maps, etc.)
3. The variety of fair priced apps
and most of all its nice slick design but in the end its too much to enjoy at once...
My blackberry is a great device also and I wouldn't traded it for anythng So stuck with my blackberry and got an ipod touch and called it day......
Ohh and the blackberry NEEDS to get hacked, it would bring so much more fun to the device

any blackberry kills any iphone period

Time will tell. BB kills in messaging and security. Everything else about it is a bit dated and in need of an overhaul.

Dude, any Blackberry with a Safari browser kills any iPhone.

When that happens, get back to me.