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RLM8888 · **Thinking Of Giving Up My Blackberry For... -** 06-16-2009, 09:15 AM

I have been a Blackberry user for several years -- most recently, have gone from 8320 to the Bold. It does what I want it to do (email), but I miss other things I could elegantly do on it -- the web, photos, etc. I admire the iPhone a lot -- although the fact that it's email functions were pretty crappy (until now) put me off (keyboard was fine though) and now the new Palm Pre...I called my enterprise company and they said they think the Pre is fantastic and the best of both worlds. I am out of the country now, so I haven't seen it at all. But am wondering if anyone has any experience with it. Plus, my big concern: the keyboard. I'm "spoiled" by the Blackberry's keyboard. Will I be able to adjust??? Thanks for any feedback.

juwaack68 · 06-16-2009, 09:33 AM

I, too, have looked at the Pre. My co-worker just switched to it after having an iPhone for 2 years and he loves it. The actual keyboard was one reason he changed, along with poor AT&T service where we work.

I'd have to find out if there are a lot of keyboard shortcuts (or any, for that matter) with the Pre before I'd switch. I use a LOT of them on the BlackBerry (T for top, B for bottom, space bar for page down, R for Reply, etc, etc). If the Pre doesn't have those then I don't want it.

ifonline · 09:54 AM

I would guess that at least currently, the Pre doesn't really take advantage of shortcut keys. Just a guess, though, and I would love to be wrong. I do think that as long as Palm is around (which is still uncertain this early in the game), the OS will receive regular updates to take care of missing/broken features. Palm needs this to work or they are gone.

Of course, bear in mind the current rash of issues being reported (screens shattering in peoples pockets, unresponsive gesture areas, splitting cases, detaching sliders, stuck keys, stuck pixels, warped screen colors, overheating...) and that Palm doesn't need these issues right now. Sure, someone will say that theirs doesn't have any of those issues, or that BB/iPhone/Android has the same issues, but what matters here is that these other companies aren't teetering on failure.

Just some things to consider.

hotburnttoast · **OS:** 5.0.0.190

I had the chance to test drive the Pre. I didnt like it one bit, the housing is a finger print magnet, I HATED the keyboard, and overall I felt device was slowwwww. The GUI was nice though. I wouldnt trade a BB for a PRE

Tragic · 08-31-2009, 10:32 AM

Just try it out... anything any of these guys say is crap until you try it out first hand. EVERY phone has had their share of issues, smart phones (especially the PRE) are under intense scrutiny & everyone has something to say. Its a matter of personal preference. Besides, Sprint (The only carrier of the PRE) has a 30 day return policy and the PRE has a 1 year manufacturer warranty that Sprint honors.

juwaack68 · 08-31-2009, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Tragic

anything any of these guys say is crap

Wow, that's a little strong, don't you think? The OP asked for our OPINION, not to prove the theory of relativity.

NJBlackBerry · 08-31-2009, 11:12 AM

I guess Tragic only asks for feedback from people who share his or her exact point of view.

Tragic · 08-31-2009, 11:54 AM

This is definately the wrong forum to ask about an non-blackbery phone. None of the replies will be from PRE owners that use and get the full experience... just from blackberry owners, many in which loath at the fact of using a different phone. You're just gonna get the bad, rants and raves... all of which have been from stuff they read on the web, not by using it. You can call it an opinion... I call it crap. I don't think giving an opinion on a phone you don't use is relevant at all.

NJBlackberry - I didn't give my point of view or my opinion of the phone... I said "TRY IT YOURSELF." Thats the most useful tool for choosing a phone IMO

NJBlackBerry · 08-31-2009, 11:56 AM

Well, enjoy your stay here.

JSanders · 08-31-2009, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tragic

... anything any of these guys say is crap until you try it out first hand.

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Originally Posted by Tragic

You can call it an opinion... I call it crap. I don't think giving an opinion on a phone you don't use is relevant at all.

And calling users' opinions here of which you know nothing about, is crap?

Sorry, your opinion of us is, then, crap.

Since you know nothing of us or those who post their opinion.

Tragic · 12:34 PM

Whoa, you're looking way too far into it. I use to forum for info on... blackberry's. I ask for info on... blackberry's. I ask for help on how to fix... blackberry's. You're opinion isn't crap... but if you don't use the phone, have researched all the issues on whats wrong with the phone, don't plan on every giving the phone a shot, and use a blackberry... I think you're opinioni on a phone your don't even use is crap. I know its harsh so I'll rephrase and say "unuseful."

Ok, this thread has officially been hijacked... if you have something to say to me my inbox is empty. This isn't helping the original poster at all.

jsconyers · **OS:** 4.5.0.175

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Originally Posted by Tragic

None of the replies will be from PRE owners that use and get the full experience... just from blackberry owners, many in which loath at the fact of using a different phone.

And you are incorrect. I've used the Pre for about a week and my first thoughts were I liked it. But the battery life is horrible and the keyboard is too small for my liking. That is MY opinion/preference.

I posted about that a while ago here: http://www.blackberryforums.com/hand...ml#post1425312

Just because you like the Pre doesn't mean everyone (including the OP) will. Why is it that you opinion of the Pre is not crap, but everyone else's opinion on the same device is crap?

NJBlackBerry · 08-31-2009, 12:32 PM

Obviously your opinion is crap.

ifonline · **OS:** 4.6.0.303

Notice what I said earlier:

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Originally Posted by ifonline

Sure, someone will say that theirs doesn't have any of those issues, or that BB/iPhone/Android has the same issues, but what matters here is that these other companies aren't teetering on failure.

And notice what Tragic said:

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Originally Posted by Tragic

Just try it out... anything any of these guys say is crap until you try it out first hand. EVERY phone has had their share of issues, smart phones (especially the PRE) are under intense scrutiny & everyone has something to say.

See... I told you someone would make excuses.

ifonline · **OS:** 4.6.0.303

Now, to address this ass:

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Originally Posted by Tragic

Just try it out... anything any of these guys say is crap until you try it out first hand.

You have no idea who here has already used a Pre and still hated it, do you? Nope, you don't, but that won't stop you from spewing crap, now will it? Nah... didn't think so.

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EVERY phone has had their share of issues, smart phones (especially the PRE) are under intense scrutiny & everyone has something to say. Its a matter of personal preference. Besides, Sprint (The only carrier of the PRE) has a 30 day return policy and the PRE has a 1 year manufacturer warranty that Sprint honors.

As I said earlier, someone was bound to excuse the phone, despite that Palm doesn't need issues right now, by making the argument that other phones have problems too.

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Originally Posted by Tragic

This is definately the wrong forum to ask about an non-blackbery phone. None of the replies will be from PRE owners that use and get the full experience... just from blackberry owners, many in which loath at the fact of using a different phone.

Really? So you know everyone here? Every single stinkin' person? You are either amazingly popular (doubt it), or a complete ass. I'm going to go ahead and assume the latter since I doubt you could convince me otherwise.

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You're just gonna get the bad, rants and raves... all of which have been from stuff they read on the web, not by using it.

And the proof of this is what? How do you know that people here haven't used the Pre? Do you realize that there are people here that don't use BlackBerry devices? Nah... didn't think you knew that, or you would realize just how incredibly stupid your comments make you look.

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You can call it an opinion... I call it crap. I don't think giving an opinion on a phone you don't use is relevant at all.

NJBlackberry - I didn't give my point of view or my opinion of the phone... I said "TRY IT YOURSELF." Thats the most useful tool for choosing a phone IMO

You're right. My bad. Funny, though, that while you say you didn't give your opinion of the phone, you did give your opinion of those of us that gave our opinion. And since you say that giving an opinion on something you know nothing about is not actually an opinion but is, in fact, crap, then that must mean that since you don't know me (or likely the others in this thread), then your opinion is, in fact, crap.

You really have your head screwed on wrong.

juwaack68 · 08-31-2009, 01:06 PM

Just when I thought today was going to be boring

Tragic · 08-31-2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ifonline

You're right. My bad. Funny, though, that while you say you didn't give your opinion of the phone, you did give your opinion of those of us that gave our opinion. And since you say that giving an opinion on something you know nothing about is not actually an opinion but is, in fact, crap, then that must mean that since you don't know me (or likely the others in this thread), then your opinion is, in fact, crap.

You really have your head screwed on wrong.

And you don't know me... so you're opinion of me is crap? Is that right or did I miss something? Who has their head screwed on wrong? I guess I'm important enough for you to analyze every single sentence that I posted.

But whatever, If you look passed that one sentence you might actually see my point. I guess everyone can post an opinion... but me. I understand now.

Tragic · 08-31-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by juwaack68

Just when I thought today was going to be boring

I know, I'm making some popcorn right now HAHAHA. There's nothing like internet drama.

NJBlackBerry · 08-31-2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tragic

I understand now.

Highly, highly unlikely.

John Clark · 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tragic

...There's nothing like internet drama.

Especially when it appears to be self-induced.

I think I've learned the true meaning of thread crapper

Tragic · 08-31-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by John Clark

Especially when it appears to be self-induced.

I think I've learned the true meaning of thread crapper

Care to elaborate? LMAO

Tragic · 08-31-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by John Clark

I think I've learned the true meaning of thread crapper

Must be refering to the users that responded to me instead of the original poster?

John Clark · **OS:** 4.6.1.250

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.......

zerog46 · 08-31-2009, 01:58 PM

Tool

A person, typically male, who says or does things that cause you to give them a 'what-are-you-even-doing-here' look. The 'what-are-you-even-doing-here' look is classified by a glare in the tool's direction and is usually accompanied by muttering of how big of a tool they are. The tool is usually someone who is unwelcome but no one has the balls to tell them to get lost. The tool is alwasys making comments that are out-of-place, out-of-line or just plain stupid. The tool is always trying too hard to fit in, and because of this, never will.

JSanders · 08-31-2009, 02:26 PM

Wirelessly posted (9530; (I'm mobile) MF231; 35h)

I think your poopcorn is crap.

ifonline · **OS:** 4.6.0.303

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Originally Posted by Tragic

And you don't know me... so you're opinion of me is crap?

According to your logic, I suppose it is. We are now stuck in a circle it would appear.

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I guess everyone can post an opinion... but me.

Nope. You are welcome to post your opinion as well. But just like you did to us, we are welcome to remind you that your opinion is crap.

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I guess I'm important enough...

Why doesn't this surprise me?

ifonline · **OS:** 4.6.0.303

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Originally Posted by Tragic

Must be refering to the users that responded to me instead of the original poster?

Yeah... must be.

test54 · 09-01-2009, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JSanders

Wirelessly posted (9530; (I'm mobile) MF231; 35h)

I think your poopcorn is crap.

lol

MikeLip · 09-03-2009, 07:31 AM

Wow. Testy thread!

I have looked at most of the smartphones. I use an 8330 because that's what I can get on my carrier reasonably - despite the fact that it is late 2009, there are places where I can't get signal from anyone but Alltel/Verizon. I know. Poor me.

Anyway, the only reasonable answer to your question is to see if you can't get your hands on a unit and try it. iPhones are cool, so are Pres. I kind of wish I had a Pre since it's my understanding they can run old Palm apps, and compared to Palm there is a huge lack of math apps for BB like high level calculators, which I use daily (I am an engineer, and use solvers on a daily basis). At the moment I carry my BB AND a Palm Tungsten IIe, and I wish I could just carry one or the other.

Now, if the iPhone had apps available like that, AND handled email like the BB, AND I could get it on my carrier so I could, you know, use it as a phone, I'd be all over it.

dankarlinski · 09-10-2009, 12:44 AM

wow... so how about that palm pre??

to the OP: you should head to a sprint store to test the phone out.. get whatever is best for you. also, take into consideration coverage where you live and travel to....

as for everyone else in here, you have a right to your own opinion. so does everyone else. but when you start slaying others or calling their opinion crap, you are taking from them a civil liberty.... freedom of speech!!! so thats not cool...... (hey, all those years in history class studying the government finally paid off!!! lol)

wabbit · **OS:** 4.2.2.194

i need to visit this forum more often.

carry on.... i got some popcorn.

ifonline · 10:10 AM

I, um... oh, nevermind.

Mattywalnuts · **OS:** 4.5.0.138

Here's a post that I made yesterday in another thread.

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So, I'm back after 10 days. Just returned the two Pres and reactivated my two VZ lines. I would of gladly stayed with Sprint and waited for the Hero, but I went out to the East End of Long Island, an area where I go at least twice a month and there was literally ZERO service. In Nassau County and NYC, Sprint works comparably to Verizon, but not out east. I was getting the unlimited everything family plan for $97+taxes with my corporate discount and it kills me to go back to paying $140+.

So to the Pre: It's small, looks great, and is actually pretty easy to type on (i'm 6' 1'' with decent size hands). I had my Outlook Exchange Email working and although not as easy to operate as a trackball (you can't highlight multiple emails for deletion), the touchscreen had zero lag and worked flawlessly. Things I didn't like, no apps, no sound profiles, copy/paste fuction is terrible. Also, I just got the feeling that the hinge which allowed the device to open was going to go at any point. Oh yeah, battery is beyond laughable despite what other say about ways to retain power. My wife didn't like the phone at all, it looked nice to her but she felt that you had to be fragile with it, which I concur...my 8830 is as solid as a brick.

I'm patiently waiting for Storm 2...my phone journey continues.

ifonline · **OS:** 4.6.0.303

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Originally Posted by dankarlinski

as for everyone else in here, you have a right to your own opinion. so does everyone else. but when you start slaying others or calling their opinion crap, you are taking from them a civil liberty.... freedom of speech!!! so thats not cool...... (hey, all those years in history class studying the government finally paid off!!! lol)

I have been biting my tongue for the past few days because I assume this was written with heavy doses of sarcasm... right?

texasPI · 09-11-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dankarlinski

snip

as for everyone else in here, you have a right to your own opinion. so does everyone else. but when you start slaying others or calling their opinion crap, you are taking from them a civil liberty.... freedom of speech!!! so thats not cool...... (hey, all those years in history class studying the government finally paid off!!! lol)

Wrong. So, I'm guessing you got a C- in history class?