BlackBerry Forums Support Community               

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 10-10-2009, 09:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
 
Join Date: May 2009
Model: 9900
OS: 7.1.0.267
PIN: N/A
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 259
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Default What Do We Have That iPhone Does Not Have?

Please Login to Remove!

I have both the Blackberry Bold and the iPhone 3GS. To me they are both great devices, but they are different. Blackberries are more for productivity and emails, while the iPhone is more for leisure and the Safari browser beats every other browser on any device.

However, I just recently noticed one major shortfall in the iPhone: no push email. At best, the iPhone can set to fetch email every 15 minutes. With Blackberry you get email immediately. It is pretty cool to send somebody with a Blackberry device an email and get a response back in a few minutes. I wonder why Apple doesn't have such a basic feature.

What else does the Blackberry have that iPhone does not have?

Also, to be fair to our iPhone users: what improvements can RIM make to compete with some of the iPhone features?
Offline  
Old 10-10-2009, 09:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
BlackBerry Mensa
 
MidnightDraven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Chester,UK
Model: 9000
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Tesco Mobile
Posts: 9,481
Post Thanks: 2
Thanked 110 Times in 110 Posts
Default

Actually, BIS polls for emails every 15minutes, so it is basically the same as the iphone.
The only exception is yahoo which is instant and gmail is more like near instant.
This is for other email addresses obviously, the @carrier.blackberry address is instant.
But it isnt recommended for use.
__________________
~Midnight Draven

"That's it then. Cancel the kitchen scraps for lepers and orphans, no more merciful beheadings... and call off Christmas."
Offline  
Old 10-10-2009, 09:53 AM   #3 (permalink)
New Member
 
jsconyers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: In a van down by the river.
Model: NOTE2
OS: 4.1
PIN: <- Where do I find this?
Carrier: Sprint
Posts: 15,071
Post Thanks: 139
Thanked 140 Times in 121 Posts
Default

There are hundreds of threads on this. Seriously...








Ohh and a physical keyboard as well as a removable battery
__________________
The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.
When you take things for granted, the things you are granted, get taken.
Even a mosquito doesn't get a pat on the back until it starts to work.
Too many people miss the silver lining because they're expecting gold.
[BES 5.0.3 / GroupWise 2012 HP2]

Last edited by jsconyers : 10-10-2009 at 09:54 AM.
Offline  
Old 10-10-2009, 10:00 AM   #4 (permalink)
BlackBerry Extraordinaire
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Model: LEZ10
OS: 10.0.10
Carrier: Rogers CA
Posts: 1,704
Post Thanks: 20
Thanked 77 Times in 68 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Midnightdraven View Post
Actually, BIS polls for emails every 15minutes, so it is basically the same as the iphone.
The only exception is yahoo which is instant and gmail is more like near instant.
This is for other email addresses obviously, the @carrier.blackberry address is instant.
But it isnt recommended for use.
Hate to disagree with you Midnightdraven, but if an IMAP mail server provides support for it (IMAP IDLE), the BIS can detect new email in real time and push it to the Blackberry almost instantly. Since I run my own mail server, I support that and get mail from my mailbox every bit as quickly as from GMail or even the Webmail carrier address.

Without that support, you are correct, the account is polled every 15 minutes.
__________________
My other Blackberry is a PlayBook.

Last edited by hrbuckley : 10-10-2009 at 10:03 AM.
Offline  
Old 10-10-2009, 10:46 AM   #5 (permalink)
BlackBerry Mensa
 
MidnightDraven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Chester,UK
Model: 9000
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Tesco Mobile
Posts: 9,481
Post Thanks: 2
Thanked 110 Times in 110 Posts
Default

Ok, that makes sense.
Hotmail and most ISP email accounts don't support it.
Lots of ISP accounts dont even support IMAP.
__________________
~Midnight Draven

"That's it then. Cancel the kitchen scraps for lepers and orphans, no more merciful beheadings... and call off Christmas."
Offline  
Old 10-10-2009, 10:52 AM   #6 (permalink)
Latino Hasta La Muerte
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Denville, NJ.
Model: 7250
OS: 4.1
PIN: G!!!
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 9,040
Post Thanks: 51
Thanked 305 Times in 293 Posts
Default

Does the iPhone integrate with a corporate BES to give you global address lookup yet? I know they've planned to update the iPhone and make it capable, but the last version I played with (and dropped like a smelly cat turd) didn't have this capability.
Offline  
Old 10-10-2009, 10:57 AM   #7 (permalink)
BlackBerry Extraordinaire
 
jbairdjr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Lincoln, Ne
Model: 9550
OS: 5.0
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 1,232
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

My buddy with an Iphone pays $100 a year for push email
__________________
Blackberry Storm2 (Verizon)
7280-7780-7290-7100g-7250-8703-8830-8330-9530-9550
Offline  
Old 10-10-2009, 10:58 AM   #8 (permalink)
BlackBerry Master
 
Motorcycle Mama's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Model: 9930
OS: 7.1.0.163
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 4,351
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 249 Times in 240 Posts
Default

I'm sorry but this topic is a big "who cares".

Get and use whatever device(s) work for YOU in your particular situation. It doesn't matter what "someone else" heas.
Offline  
Old 10-10-2009, 11:08 AM   #9 (permalink)
Latino Hasta La Muerte
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Denville, NJ.
Model: 7250
OS: 4.1
PIN: G!!!
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 9,040
Post Thanks: 51
Thanked 305 Times in 293 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jbairdjr View Post
My buddy with an Iphone pays $100 a year for push email
He pays an extra $100 per year, on top of the normal monthly iPhone plan?
Offline  
Old 10-10-2009, 11:09 AM   #10 (permalink)
New Member
 
jsconyers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: In a van down by the river.
Model: NOTE2
OS: 4.1
PIN: <- Where do I find this?
Carrier: Sprint
Posts: 15,071
Post Thanks: 139
Thanked 140 Times in 121 Posts
Default

I believe he is referring to MobileMe...

Apple - MobileMe - Your iPhone, Mac, and PC. In perfect sync.
__________________
The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.
When you take things for granted, the things you are granted, get taken.
Even a mosquito doesn't get a pat on the back until it starts to work.
Too many people miss the silver lining because they're expecting gold.
[BES 5.0.3 / GroupWise 2012 HP2]
Offline  
Old 10-10-2009, 11:17 AM   #11 (permalink)
BlackBerry Extraordinaire
 
jbairdjr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Lincoln, Ne
Model: 9550
OS: 5.0
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 1,232
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I am.

I do actually like the Idrive that he also gets. Makes sharing larger files pretty easy - you just send them a link. Give them the password and they download the file.

But, you can use SugarSync to do the same with Blackberry (2 gb storage is free)
__________________
Blackberry Storm2 (Verizon)
7280-7780-7290-7100g-7250-8703-8830-8330-9530-9550
Offline  
Old 10-10-2009, 11:32 AM   #12 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Model: 8330
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Virgin Mobile
Posts: 14
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

We have class. ;)
Offline  
Old 10-10-2009, 11:47 AM   #13 (permalink)
BlackBerry Extraordinaire
 
miamirulz29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: The 305!
Model: 9000
OS: 5.0.0.592
PIN: N/A
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 1,219
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

For what improvements RIM can make: How bout customer service, not just from RIM but carriers too. Its such a hassle to call RIM or you carrier about a problem with the blackberry. But with the iphone, its simple: go to the apple store and they will either fix it or give you a new one. For example, my cousin had a problem with the iphone, went to the apple store, even after 30 days of purchasing it, they gave her a brand new iphone because they were unable to fix it. Now that is customer service. Now lets say you call RIM, they'll ask you to send it in or w/e, wait two weeks, then they will send it back without doing a thing telling you that we were unable to fix it. Then you have to call them again, tell them that and then they say they will send a replacement. Then after like another 2 weeks, your replacement comes.
__________________
This isn't the real Caesar's Palace, is it?
What do you mean?
Did um, did Caesar live here?
Um... no.
I didn't think so.
Offline  
Old 10-10-2009, 11:48 AM   #14 (permalink)
BlackBerry Extraordinaire
 
miamirulz29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: The 305!
Model: 9000
OS: 5.0.0.592
PIN: N/A
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 1,219
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

And to add to my previous post, it is pathetic that the iphone is so user friendly that their users cannot fix their phones themselves. They have to rely on replacements.
__________________
This isn't the real Caesar's Palace, is it?
What do you mean?
Did um, did Caesar live here?
Um... no.
I didn't think so.
Offline  
Old 10-10-2009, 12:04 PM   #15 (permalink)
No longer Registered.
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: NJ
Model: WP7
OS: The Best
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 1,930
Post Thanks: 6
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rambo47 View Post
Does the iPhone integrate with a corporate BES to give you global address lookup yet? I know they've planned to update the iPhone and make it capable, but the last version I played with (and dropped like a smelly cat turd) didn't have this capability.
Not with BES, but if your company uses Exchange, then yes, the iphone will integrate with it through active sync. And yes, that would give you global address lookup as well as your own calendar, address book and all your mail folders in Exchange.

Last edited by ArgonNJ : 10-10-2009 at 12:07 PM.
Offline  
Old 10-10-2009, 12:06 PM   #16 (permalink)
Grumpy Moderator
 
NJBlackBerry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Somewhere in the swamps of Jersey
Model: i5s
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 27,804
Post Thanks: 33
Thanked 442 Times in 382 Posts
Default

And no ability to invite people to meetings. A show stopper for some.

Yes, with ActiveSync you have push e-mail (assuming the non replaceable battery stays alive) and OTA sync of contacts, calendar and tasks. No notes. Or a replaceable battery.
Offline  
Old 10-10-2009, 02:28 PM   #17 (permalink)
BlackBerry Extraordinaire
 
miamirulz29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: The 305!
Model: 9000
OS: 5.0.0.592
PIN: N/A
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 1,219
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Blackberries have micro sd card readers, iPhones don't. Even though the iphone can hold up to 32 gb, it still helps to be able to transfer it from one place to another.
__________________
This isn't the real Caesar's Palace, is it?
What do you mean?
Did um, did Caesar live here?
Um... no.
I didn't think so.
Offline  
Old 10-10-2009, 02:33 PM   #18 (permalink)
BlackBerryForums.com Super Moderator
 
SteveO86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Florida
Model: 9650
OS: 6.0.0.280
PIN: I heard it drop!
Carrier: VZW BIS
Posts: 6,534
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 1 Post
Default

security? Or is that too broad
__________________
8830 -> 8330 -> 9550 -> 9650
Just think about how far BlackBerries have come from then till now... And what else is coming.

Follow me on Twitter
Offline  
Old 10-10-2009, 06:41 PM   #19 (permalink)
BlackBerry Extraordinaire
 
kirrinjones's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Jamaica
Model: 9000
OS: 5.0.0.610
PIN: 208E7C41
Carrier: LIME, Jamaica
Posts: 1,533
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Wirelessly posted

You can see my article at the address http://kirrinjones.wordpress.com/2009/08/10/the-blackberry-vs-iphone-saga/
__________________
-----------------------------------------------------
Website - http://kirrinjones.wordpress.com
Twitter - http://www.twitter.com/kirrinjones
Offline  
Old 10-10-2009, 10:17 PM   #20 (permalink)
BBF Spam Killer Moderator
 
daphne's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: on a sunny beach
Model: Z
OS: 10.2.1.12
PIN: X1ZPY34K
Carrier: VZW
Posts: 9,165
Post Thanks: 122
Thanked 146 Times in 116 Posts
Default

Moved to BlackBerry Versus
__________________
Report spam text messages to 7726
#BlackBerry by choice #BlacBerry 10 is here!
Offline  
Closed Thread


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On





Copyright 2004-2014 BlackBerryForums.com.
The names RIM and BlackBerry are registered Trademarks of BlackBerry Inc.