I searched the Bluetooth forum for instructions on how to use the native XP SP2 Bluetooth drivers and only came up with pieces. I found this on the net. THe link is below, plus a copy of the page incase it disappears. I got my Kensington Bluetooth USB Adapter to finally syncronize. I also had to change my BES Policy to set the following two IT Policies were FALSE
DISABLE DESKTOP CONNECTIVITY
DISABLE WIRELESS BYPASS

Blackberry Support Article on Pairing:
Livelink - Redirection

Web Article that explained how to use the native XP SP2 Drivers:
Using the Microsoft Bluetooth Stack (instead of WIDCOMM) on Windows XP w/ SP2

Copy of the Web Article:

Using the Microsoft Bluetooth Stack (instead of WIDCOMM) on Windows XP w/ SP2

I recently purchased a Kensington USB Bluetooth adapter, and wanted to use it on my laptop to connect to Motorola V600 cell phone and dial up to the internet. I remember reading that the newly released Service Pack 2 for Windows XP had Bluetooth support (stack) built in.

This means that all you should be able to plug in your USB Bluetooth adapter, a Bluetooth icon should appear in the control panel, and you should be on your way! Well, that would be nice, but after some research I found that the xpsp2 Bluetooth support was only for adapters that had WHQL certified drivers. According to Microsoft, only a handful of these adapters were supported by the built in Windows XP (WHQL) driver.

The drivers that came with my Kensington adapter were WIDCOMM drivers.
Unfortunately these drivers are not WHQL certified, and cannot use the XP(sp2) built in Bluetooth stack. You must instead install the WIDCOMM Bluetooth stack, which seemed to work ok for me, but if Windows has this built in, why not use it?
Besides, I hate installing extra software that I don't need!

So I got started looking for a WHQL certified driver for the Kensington adapter. Well, to make this short, they don't exist (not that I could find at least). I did find newer WIDCOMM drivers though on Logitech's website, but they were still not WHQL certified, and therefore can not use the XP Bluetooth stack.

After going back and reading the list of Bluetooth adapters support by XP, I noticed the PnPID's listed next to each device. So I figured, why not just add the Kensington PnPID to the built in drivers inf file, and see if the built in drivers will work?

After locating the proper inf file: %windir%\inf\bth.inf
I opened it in notepad, read through it a little bit, and saw that there wasn't anything specific for each of the different manufactures devices. So on about line 60, under one of the device sections, I added my USB adapters PnPID like so:

;----------------------- Device section - Start -----------------------

[ALPS.NT.5.1]
ALPS Integrated Bluetooth Device= BthUsb, USB\Vid_044e&Pid_3005
Alps Bluetooth USB Adapter= BthUsb, USB\Vid_044e&Pid_3006

[Belkin.NT.5.1]
Belkin Bluetooth Adapter= BthUsb, USB\Vid_050d&Pid_0081
Belkin Bluetooth Adapter= BthUsb, USB\Vid_050d&Pid_0084
Kensington USB Bluetooth Adapter= BthUsb, USB\Vid_0db0&Pid_697a


Now, you may ask, well how did I know my adapters PnPID?
Well, I pulled mine out of the registry, but there is a much easier way!

After inserting the Bluetooth adapter into one of the computers USB ports, Windows will ask to install drivers for it, and it won’t be able to find any drivers for the device, and it will simply add the adapter to device manager as "USB Device" with a small yellow exclamation point under it. Well if you go into the device manager, double-click on the "USB Device" and look at the details tab, you will notice that in the drop down menu, there is an option called "Hardware Ids". Select this option, and in the area below will appear that devices Hardware (or PnPID) Ids. You need to copy one of those strings EXACTLY from that area, into the bth.inf file.

After that, delete the "USB Device" from device manager, and un-plug, and re-plug the Bluetooth adapter into your computer system. When prompted, let Windows search for a device driver, and it should pick up the adapter, and install the correct drivers for it. Also, there should now be an icon in the control panel for Bluetooth configuration.

Now, since I had already installed the adapter using the WIDCOMM drivers, I had to repeat the above steps, except instead of "USB Device" in device manager, I saw a "MSI USB Bluetooth Device" that had to be deleted.

Update 10/7/08
Wow, I was googling a bluetooth issue (not related) and this post came up 3rd in the rankings. Weird to see your own posts so high on the list.
I hope this thread helped those with problems, however looking over the replys, there are still lots of incompatible BT stacks out there. Best of luck to us all.

Good information! I hope someone else can try it out and verify.

Hey great write up. I got it to work and show the BT icon in the Control Panel. But once I am in the BT folder I cannot get it to find my device and also the discoverability will not turn on. It says that the setting, when i check the box to be discovered, will not save.

are you experiencing any of this or am I the only one? thanks for your help.

Similar situation here, I got it to show in the taskbar, I can add my device but when I try to configure the bluetooth so I can wirelessly sinch, it doesnt work. For me this is the third time that I have upgraded to 4.1 OS and have never been able to synch wirelessly, I think in my case it is simply that my dongle is not supported, I will try with a nother type soon to see. And again I lost my modem tethering ability when it upgraded to 4.1 It sees the modem and tries to connect but then it simply says that it has a bad username or passsowrd. I have done this both manualy and with the verizon access manager.

Great post above, I have a brand new 7130e with 4.1, and a zoom wireless PCMCIA card bluetooth adapter that is not supported by the XP stack. I can pair my phone, but the only service that works is "audio gateway", which I obviously cannot use to synch. From what I can tell, my bluetooth adapter/driver/software supports serial port connections with other devices, which is the way most pdas and smartphones synch, but my blackberry does not support this for some reason, it seems to use some different method of transfering info with the phone, that my bluetooth device doesn't support. Has anyone else run into this "bluetooth serial port" issue?

I have also noticed that the built in XP drivers seem to only support USB bluetooth device. In reading the bth.inf file, under device section, it only shows "bthusb, usb\" type devices. So, in short I am assuming I cannot update this file with my pcmcia adapter???

It looks like I may be forced to just buy a usb bluetooth adapter that has an approved XP stack driver. Does anyone have any recomemndations?

opirrotta,
You may still be able to use your adapter... you need to get rid of the manufactuer's driver off your system so that it won't try to load that anymore, then edit the bth.inf file like it explains in the instructions, then it should pick up the adapter.
I bet all adapters will not work under the native bluetooth drivers though, but many people have had success. My USB adapter was a kensington.
good luck.
The neat thing about having your berry bluetoothed to your computer is that it will use your connection to Desktop Manager to transfer data instead of the cellular connection. for example, i'm in an I.T room with thick walls where there is no signal. my berry still picks up all the emails while in this room thanks to the bluetooth. when i walk out of range, i'm within reach of the cell towers...

Thanks morser, my only question is that can I still edit that bth.inf file even though my adapter is pcmcia and not usb? Seems like all the device entries in that file are usb? Also, what would the entry look like? I pulled the PnPid info from the device and it looke like this "PCMCIA\PCMCIA-BLUETOOTH_CARD-13AE\1",
So would my entry be??

[Zoom.NT.5.1]
Zoom Bluetooth Adapter= Bthpcmcia, PCMCIA\PCMCIA-BLUETOOTH_CARD-13AE\1

Wow. Good question. All you can do is try. I think since it detects just "bluetooth adapters" and not specifically pcmcia or usb you may have a chance at success.

Thanks Morser! I had given up hope of getting my collection of BT dongles to work (Kensington & D-Link) but after following your instructions and jumping thru a couple minor hoops (and reboots) my 8700r syncs like a champ! Have only tried the Kensington but will try the D-Link next...

Well I'm glad i could help. I ask quite a few questions (difficult as well as dumb) on this board and it's nice to be able to contribute back a little.

I love how it uses my bluetooth connection to transfer ALL data instead of the cellular network. However when i try to download a large application it fails at the end. so much for saving bandwidth that way. i think they did that on purpose.

Glad i could help.

So, it seems like you have a deep BB background, any recomendations on a tiff file viewer? I am not really looking to spend $$

I just got a USB dongle today that works great. It is a Bluetooth ver. 2 class 1 USB 2.0 100m (328ft!!) 2.4Ghz type. It works from every point in my house up to about 60 feet away and out into my yard. The good news? It uses the WIN XP SP2 BT stack drivers and costs only $12. Sounds too good to be true doesn't it? I ordered my first one when I got my 7130e, and it didn't work (it uses the WIDDCOMM BlueSoleil drivers, even tried the bth.inf mod), then I found another generic one that was guaranteed to work for $30, and bought it. That same day I was cruising geeks.com and found two more and bought them. One at geeks was the Kensington that several people have had success with after modifying the bth.inf so I was pretty sure it would work. The other was only $12, so I bought it too just in case I could get it to work. The geeks order got here first.

I plugged in the $12 dongle, I told it not to check the internet for drivers. XP asked me which driver I wanted to use, I selected the Microsoft drivers from a list of three choices.
I chose the drivers in the location c:windows\inf\bth.inf These are version 5.1.2600.2180.
When installation finished, I enabled BT on the phone and ouila! I got 100m BT sync goin' on! This even worked through a USB 2.0 hub. I had to reinstall when I plugged it into the hub, but I repeated the above instructions and it works great.

It boasts a 3Mbps data transfer rate. Okay enough gloating - here is a link to the item titled a Cambridge Silicon Radio Ltd. BT-B1 Class 1 v2 USB 2.0 BT dongle. It is listed as Model: BT-333E is listed at the address below, and made by Suncore Tech. Inc.
geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=BT-B1&cpc=SCH&srm=0 Sorry I can't post url's yet , I just signed up last week and have been reading, not writing in the forums.

Edit: The Guaranteed to work dongle doesn't work. Cellphone mall .net doesn't have any idea what they are selling. The Kensington does work with the bth.inf mod found here, although it costs more. The regular price of the CSR ltd. item is 14.99 and is $3 off as of 4-8-2006.

I had spent entirely too much time trying to figure this out and was just about to give up and take the Kensington dongle back when I found your post. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Oh, btw, for those with Kensington, either do not install the software at all or uninstalling it before doing this. The only downside is that this fix does not allow the dongle to expose all the possible services it supports, but I only bought mine for this purpose anyway...

I have a Kensington USB adapter, and I am trying to connect it to a BB 8700C. Is this device 'Data transfer' enabled? Is there any good information on how to go step by step to set up the synchronization?

Andy

Has anyone gotten a D-link dongle to work yet?

I finally got the D-Link DBT-120 dongle to work with my 7130e. Here's what I did:

1. Installed the latest Kensington 33348 dongle software/drivers for WIDCOMM (downloadable from kensington.com site under support).

2. In Control Panel, did an Add/Remove of the WIDCOMM software (remove) and rebooted PC.

3. Plugged in D-Link dongle and confgiured it using installed software (listed in device manager as Generic Bluetooth Radio).

4. Followed instructions from RIM knowledgebase http://www.blackberry.com/knowledgec... 250&vernum=13 - pay attention to Step 6.

Works like a charm even though RIM states in the article D-Link is not supported.

Ok, so I've followed all the instructions to add my Kensington to bth.inf. Drivers are now properly installed and 7130e paired. RIM Device Manager shows that I am allowed to use Bluetooth, so I try to add a device and none get found. Any thoughts?

I am on BIS, Sprint, Telstra OS.

EDIT: I tried it with my 8700g, and it worked great, so there must be an issue with my OS on my 7130e like some have noted in other threads.

I tried to do this with my PCMCIA Billionton Bluetooth card, and it worked insofar as it loaded the XP drivers but then the device wouldn't start. Apparently Windows doesn't like using USB drivers for a PCMCIA device. :(

I have a Kingston BT USB dongle and I was able to get it to install with the MS drivers. But, after I pair, the Blackberry Device Manager doesn't see it, although the connected symble appears next to the BT symble on the device. Also, in the MS BT client, when I go to properties then services, none are listed. Could this be why? If so, why are none there? Thanks in advance for any help!

Do you have "Desktop Connectivity" and "Wireless Bypass" listed under your Bluetooth options on your BB?

No I don't - just headset and handsfree. So if I follow the post, it must be BES right? Guess I'll need to talk to my BES admin. This may be a stupid question, but a blank policy won't help I assume. Any ideas? Thanks for the reply!

OK, so I checked and my IT Policy does not even have those options in the list. Is this something that my vendor (T-Mobile) should push down in a service book? This sucks dude. All I want to do is wirelessly sync. Any other thoughts?

Thanks for the tip. It fixed the problem I was having w/ my Kensington Bluetooth Dongle and 8700 seeing one another and I was just about to give up. Nice work.

Great post! I got my TRENDnet bluetooth adapter, which came with the widcomm drivers, to sync using this info.

Wait! I just discovered on another forum that the native XP SP2 bluetooth drivers that I need to do bluetooth sync DOES NOT SUPPORT headset profiles!

If I want to use my BT headset with my notebook for SKYPE, they suggest I use the WIDCOMM drivers. ARRGH. Does anyone have more info on it here? Does anyone know how to do support both BB sync and HEADSET PROFILES?

Thanks,

m.

morser,
Thank you. Your suggestion worked flawless. My Kensington USB BT adapter is now in use with the BB Desktop Manager Software.

No problems on the tip, word for word, exactly.

Thanks again.

Pete

I want to do the following:

1. xp sp2 BT drivers for bb synch
2. widcomm BT drivers for the bluetooth headset profile (and maybe class 1 range.)

Is this possible. will the 2 adapters interfere with each other?

I have successfully used these instructions to install my Kensington Bluetooth USB dongle (model 33085) on XP SP2 using the MS bluetooth stack. However, when connecting to my Motorola V551 only one service (Dialup networking) is listed for it. The V551 supports OBEX file transfers, bluetooth audio, and digital business card transfers as well. Although I would like to be able to program some Bluetooth apps which interact with my phone, unfortunately I'm going to have to go with the WIDCOMM drivers for their usability. Nonetheless, thanks for the article!

Wirelessly posted (Cingular-Blue 7290: BlackBerry7290/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/101)

BestBuy still wants $40-50 for BT adapters - Forget that.



So on bldkcstark's recommendation above, I ordered (2) BT-B1 Bluetooth USB Adapters at $10.95 each from http://www.sfcable.com. (Geeks.com was out-of-stock).



I'll report back our experiences on installation and uses on 2 two separate BBs and PCs.



Steve

If you are on BES and your IT Admin does not have a problem with changing your settings, then this should be pretty simple for them. Installing a blank policy won't work for two reasons:

1. The blank policy still has the two critical policies turned off; and
2. If you are on a BES, downloading a different policy will mess up your current BES policies and will likley tick off your Admin.

Are there any plans to support sim access profile via Bluetooth on future bb's so that new technologies such as car integration will be possible? That would be very useful.

Thanks for this tip, I searched long and hard and this was the only SOLUTION that was available, thanks very much!

finally a REAL use for this dongle in my drawer... works great!

my only desire now is to have the sync start automatically without having to tell the PC to do so... any suggestions?

fantastic. the $15 belkin bluetooth adapter i just bought (1/2off at CompUSA) wouldnt work with windows without its own crap software. and the desktop manager would not work with the crap software. this did the trick. wonderful thread of information.

now i can throw the driver onto my sim card and have this phone ready to connect any pc to the net, wherever i so choose.

also, when i come home, the phone automatically syncs up. no cords, no buttons to press, no confirmations, it just goes at it. way cool

Unfortunately, I have been unable to make this solution work. I have a Belking USB Bluetooth adapter, which according to the Belkin website is XP signed and approved. I have XP Pro SP2, yet I'm still unagble to use the BT to synch my 8700C. I can get it to pair with my laptop, but the only connection I can make is with the Handsfree service. Neither esktop connectivity nor PIM synchronization show up as services on the laptop.

-Syncless in Seattle

OK. I take that back. It DID work. Thanks for the tip.

HOWEVER, now I'm finding I must uninstall then reinstall the bluetooth driver each time I plug my USB radio in. Is there a way to retain the driver, so I can just plug and play? Or, how can I install the driver on my phone's SIM card as described in the above posting?

Geeks was out so I ordered from Amazon for 14.95 delivered. Will give it a try. Want to connect my GPS to it more than the BB.

Morser,

I am a new BB owner and the Pearl is my first of what could be a long term devotion. I am in the field all the time, and it has really been helpful to receive my emails throughout the day as it is relevant to many issues I am managing day to day. I would prefer a BB 7130 (like the Cingular or Vodafone) with an micro SD slot and trackball. That would fetch me in but quick.

I was experiencing the same frustration as all the others. I knew that I needed to use any drivers embedded in WinPak2 to get this to work, and not those that came with the Kensington Dongle. Following your instructions to the letter <or character> I found I was able to get my BB Desktop's Bluetooth menu to become accessible and see my BB Pearl.

When I found the pid strings in device manager, I only installed one in the drivers file, and this revealed some progress, but didn't get me to the goal line. When I installed both pid strings, this did the trick. I also quite the BB Desktop Manager and restarted it first.

Thanks for the great insight into this issue!

Still cant hook up my bb8700R to D-Link DBT-122. Tried all the great advice to no avail. HELP!!!

Eurika!! Please disregard my previous post, I have managed to synch my BB8700R to my desktop via BT using the D-Link dbt-122. I was not following the great instructions posted, to the letter.