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Old 03-15-2007, 04:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is it possible to develop custom application on the BlackBerry device that use standard TCP/IP to communicate with internet services WITHOUT a BES? Or does the BIS restrict internet connectivity to email and chat?

Additionally, can you push data (MDS services) to a BlackBerry handset WITHOUT a BES?

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yes, it is possible to use tcp/ip without BIS.
no, it is not possible to push data from MDS without BES server.

read BlackBerry Developer Guide and look at the samples, attached to the JDE - it should help you.
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i think he meant 'without bes' :P

you can use tcp/ip on bis but you cannot perform push operations, that requires a bes.
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Thank you for the quick replies.

A follow on question. I have a BB Pearl linked with a BES with MDS services turned on. I test the JDE SocketDemo app via the simulator and I was able to communicate with a socket server I have running in my internal network. I then compiled the socket demo and placed it on my Pearl. I tried running the same socket demo and it hangs while trying to connect. I specified the correct IP address and I even was able to telnet to the socket from the actual BES machine.

Does anyone know why my BB is failing to connect via the socket demo? I have TMobile service.
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jfisher - yes you are right

knifegun - maybe problem is with internal address?
if address is available only from inside your LAN, you can't access it from your Pearl, which is "outside".
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There were two problems. One of them is that I needed to setup the APN on my phone via the FAQ even though it is connected to the BES. Once I did that, I needed to ensure to connect to an external address. This means that my TCP/IP connection did not go through the BES which is pretty cool.

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