BlackBerry Forums Support Community               

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 11-18-2007, 09:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
CrackBerry Addict
 
Danabw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Model: 8130
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 648
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Bell 8130 owners...need your input!

Please Login to Remove!

Curious what my have been changed in the OS between 4.30.0.60 (Verizon) and 4.30.0.66 (Bell)...

It would be interesting to hear about any issues you are having w/the phone to see if things have changed at all...

For instance:

If you put the phone in standby (either manually using the Mute button, or via a BB holster w/the "standby magnet" in it), can you start a call via a BT headset?

Have you had problems w/Bluetooth support turning off on its own if you have the bluetooth status light turned off?

If you set keytones to silent in Options, and you use the "loud" profile, are the keytones silent when you dial a number?

Is there a setting to turn off the shutter sound for the camera?

Have you had any/many browser lock-ups that required battery pulls?

If you're using Suretype mode, have you seen it switch to multi-tap after a restart?

To put the BB in standby, you can press and hold the Mute key on the top of the phone. When you do that, does the BB prompt you to confirm standby, and is the default Cancel or OK?

Thanks...be interesting to see if there are any differences between your OS and what's on the Verizon 8130s.
Offline  
Old 11-18-2007, 09:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
Knows Where the Search Button Is
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Model: 8130
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 25
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Danabw View Post
Curious what my have been changed in the OS between 4.30.0.60 (Verizon) and 4.30.0.66 (Bell)...

It would be interesting to hear about any issues you are having w/the phone to see if things have changed at all...

For instance:

If you put the phone in standby (either manually using the Mute button, or via a BB holster w/the "standby magnet" in it), can you start a call via a BT headset?

Have you had problems w/Bluetooth support turning off on its own if you have the bluetooth status light turned off?

If you set keytones to silent in Options, and you use the "loud" profile, are the keytones silent when you dial a number?

Is there a setting to turn off the shutter sound for the camera?

Have you had any/many browser lock-ups that required battery pulls?

If you're using Suretype mode, have you seen it switch to multi-tap after a restart?

To put the BB in standby, you can press and hold the Mute key on the top of the phone. When you do that, does the BB prompt you to confirm standby, and is the default Cancel or OK?

Thanks...be interesting to see if there are any differences between your OS and what's on the Verizon 8130s.
Verizon user:
Frequent browser lock ups requiring hard reset.
Suretype is consistent.
The rest I don't use or have a problem with.
Offline  
Old 11-18-2007, 11:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
CrackBerry Addict
 
Danabw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Model: 8130
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 648
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gaijindragonslayer View Post
Verizon user:
Frequent browser lock ups requiring hard reset.
Suretype is consistent.
The rest I don't use or have a problem with.
Thanks...but to be clear, what I'm looking for is feedback from Bell users (or Telus) on the newer Pearl 8130 OS, not Verizon users.
Offline  
Old 11-18-2007, 11:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
BBF Moderator
 
John Clark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Model: Z30
OS: 10.2.1.x
PIN: s & needles
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 34,686
Post Thanks: 4
Thanked 100 Times in 72 Posts
Default

If they're using the same OS, it doesn't much matter. Does it?
Offline  
Old 11-19-2007, 12:05 AM   #5 (permalink)
CrackBerry Addict
 
Danabw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Model: 8130
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 648
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Verizon = 4.30.0.60
Bell = 4.30.0.66

I'm wondering what's new in the newer version of the OS...
Offline  
Old 11-19-2007, 12:13 AM   #6 (permalink)
BBF Moderator
 
John Clark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Model: Z30
OS: 10.2.1.x
PIN: s & needles
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 34,686
Post Thanks: 4
Thanked 100 Times in 72 Posts
Default

Yeah, I just checked to see if that .66 OS was available for download. It's not yet. That's not a big OS change there, though. However, it's *possible* to have some of the bug fixes you're looking for. However, the other stuff is not likely to be included. There will likely never be a fix for the camera shutter sound. It's required by law in some countries. The keypad sounds and shutter sounds are still in 4.3.1 so I wouldn't expect to see either of those. With 4.3.1 I don't get a prompt for entering standby so don't know when that will change. That's a big change and was likely in the 4.3.1.

Hope that helps some...
Offline  
Old 11-19-2007, 01:24 AM   #7 (permalink)
CrackBerry Addict
 
Danabw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Model: 8130
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 648
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Thanks, John, appreciate the details.

One can only hope, where this stuff is concerned, and as John Cleese said, "It isn't the disappointment that hurts, it's the hope."
Offline  
Old 11-19-2007, 07:34 AM   #8 (permalink)
Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
 
Mark_Venture's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Delaware
Model: 8900
Carrier: T-Mobile (w) - Verizon (P)
Posts: 313
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Danabw View Post
...For instance:

If you put the phone in standby (either manually using the Mute button, or via a BB holster w/the "standby magnet" in it), can you start a call via a BT headset?

Have you had problems w/Bluetooth support turning off on its own if you have the bluetooth status light turned off? ...
are the Most important fixes I'm interested in... and would really like to hear from Bell (4.3.0.66) or Telus (4.3.0.65) users about.

Nice to have is no more "ok/cancel" when enterying stand-by via the mute key...
__________________
Work T-Mobile 8900, 8320, 8120 & 8220 - Personal Verizon 9550, 9630, 9530, 8130 & 8330

-> Posting and you! <-a MUST Watch for all
Offline  
Old 11-19-2007, 08:07 AM   #9 (permalink)
Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
 
Cyclops's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Montreal
Model: 9800
Carrier: Rogers
Posts: 240
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Danabw View Post
Curious what my have been changed in the OS between 4.30.0.60 (Verizon) and 4.30.0.66 (Bell)...

It would be interesting to hear about any issues you are having w/the phone to see if things have changed at all...

For instance:

If you put the phone in standby (either manually using the Mute button, or via a BB holster w/the "standby magnet" in it), can you start a call via a BT headset?

Have you had problems w/Bluetooth support turning off on its own if you have the bluetooth status light turned off?

If you set keytones to silent in Options, and you use the "loud" profile, are the keytones silent when you dial a number?

Is there a setting to turn off the shutter sound for the camera?

Have you had any/many browser lock-ups that required battery pulls?

If you're using Suretype mode, have you seen it switch to multi-tap after a restart?

To put the BB in standby, you can press and hold the Mute key on the top of the phone. When you do that, does the BB prompt you to confirm standby, and is the default Cancel or OK?

Thanks...be interesting to see if there are any differences between your OS and what's on the Verizon 8130s.
1- Keytones are only silent using VIBRATE and SILENT profile
2- No browser lock-ups
3- SureType works fine
4- No prompt to confirm standby mode (Just says to press MUTE key again to exit standby mode)
5- Able to initiate a voice dial call with Bluetooth headset when phone is put in stanby, using the MUTE key or when in holster.

P.S. I'm using the Bell 8130 with OS 4.30.0.66
Offline  
Old 11-19-2007, 11:15 AM   #10 (permalink)
CrackBerry Addict
 
Danabw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Model: 8130
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 648
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
1- Keytones are only silent using VIBRATE and SILENT profile
2- No browser lock-ups
3- SureType works fine
4- No prompt to confirm standby mode (Just says to press MUTE key again to exit standby mode)
5- Able to initiate a voice dial call with Bluetooth headset when phone is put in stanby, using the MUTE key or when in holster.


P.S. I'm using the Bell 8130 with OS 4.30.0.66
Thanks, Cyclops!

I believe that calls for a "woot!!"

Mark, it looks like santa is taking care of you for Christmas (or maybe Thanksgiving, assuming the download is available soon).
Offline  
Old 11-19-2007, 11:22 AM   #11 (permalink)
BBF Moderator
 
John Clark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Model: Z30
OS: 10.2.1.x
PIN: s & needles
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 34,686
Post Thanks: 4
Thanked 100 Times in 72 Posts
Default

Ha! Just noticed there are no keypad tones in vibrate or silent. Hadn't tried those profiles on my 4.3 Pearl..
Offline  
Old 11-20-2007, 09:05 AM   #12 (permalink)
Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
 
Mark_Venture's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Delaware
Model: 8900
Carrier: T-Mobile (w) - Verizon (P)
Posts: 313
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Danabw View Post
Mark, it looks like santa is taking care of you for Christmas (or maybe Thanksgiving, assuming the download is available soon).
Yes.. I'm hoping for that download soon... I check every day

My LG Voyager got here yesterday.. so I'm playing with that now.. even if I don't get the Pearl OS, this is cool...
__________________
Work T-Mobile 8900, 8320, 8120 & 8220 - Personal Verizon 9550, 9630, 9530, 8130 & 8330

-> Posting and you! <-a MUST Watch for all
Offline  
Old 11-20-2007, 12:37 PM   #13 (permalink)
CrackBerry Addict
 
Danabw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Model: 8130
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 648
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Show-off.

Look like an iPhone beater? (Or even just an iPhone pretender on a decent network?)
Offline  
Old 11-21-2007, 08:17 AM   #14 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Model: 8130
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Bell Mobility
Posts: 5
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Software won't load

I can't load software that should work:

Google Maps
Sudoku (Handango)
Office Communicator
Texas Hold'em King 2.1.9 (Handango)

Error message attached.
Attached Thumbnails
Bell 8130 owners...need your input!-bb-software-load-error.jpg  
Offline  
Old 11-26-2007, 04:13 PM   #15 (permalink)
Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
 
Mark_Venture's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Delaware
Model: 8900
Carrier: T-Mobile (w) - Verizon (P)
Posts: 313
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bell-boy View Post
I can't load software that should work:

Google Maps
Sudoku (Handango)
Office Communicator
Texas Hold'em King 2.1.9 (Handango)

Error message attached.
You need the RIM OS package for your device installed on your computer. See -> Application Loader Error - BlackBerryFAQ


The Telus package was just released.. Bell still not out...
__________________
Work T-Mobile 8900, 8320, 8120 & 8220 - Personal Verizon 9550, 9630, 9530, 8130 & 8330

-> Posting and you! <-a MUST Watch for all
Offline  
Old 11-26-2007, 06:25 PM   #16 (permalink)
Thumbs Must Hurt
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Model: 9800
OS: 6.0.0.526
Carrier: Bell Mobility
Posts: 75
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default

Bell has the TCP stack disabled in their OS. I they are the only provider that is still disabling the TCP stack. Pain in the rear end if you want to have some 3rd party applications working properly.

Btw, I have the brand new BB 8130 from Bell with 4.3.0.66 OS
Offline  
Old 11-26-2007, 06:34 PM   #17 (permalink)
CrackBerry Addict
 
Danabw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Model: 8130
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 648
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

So what kinds of problems does that (disabled TCP stack) cause in terms of 3rd party programs? Can you provide some examples?
Offline  
Old 11-27-2007, 08:16 AM   #18 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Model: 8130
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Bell Mobility
Posts: 5
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Browsers

Also, when I click a http link in an email or anywhere and it opens the browser, I get an error "unauthorized". I then have to go and switch the browser to Internet Browser and then try again.
Offline  
Old 11-27-2007, 01:28 PM   #19 (permalink)
CrackBerry Addict
 
Danabw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Model: 8130
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 648
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bell-boy View Post
Also, when I click a http link in an email or anywhere and it opens the browser, I get an error "unauthorized". I then have to go and switch the browser to Internet Browser and then try again.
Are you reporting a general defect in the Bell .66 OS that you're experiencing, or are you saying that's a result of the TCP stack being disabled?
Offline  
Old 11-27-2007, 01:53 PM   #20 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Model: 8130
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Bell Mobility
Posts: 5
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I wish I knew what the problem was. Maybe something to do with the stack. Maybe some other problem.
Offline  
Closed Thread


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On





Copyright 2004-2014 BlackBerryForums.com.
The names RIM and BlackBerry are registered Trademarks of BlackBerry Inc.