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Default OS: 8130 4.3.0.149 / 4.3.0.81 (Alltel) - 01-04-2008, 11:19 AM

The 4.3 device original OS is out for Alltel Pearls, or any 8130 CDMA BlackBerry.

This is not for a 8100 Pearl.


* Applications: 4.3.0.81
* Software Platform: 3.1.0.40
* File name: 8130uEFS_PBr4.3.0_rel149_PL3.1.0.40_A4.3.0.81_Allt el.exe
* File size: 95.6MB

https://www.blackberry.com/Downloads...03923A1C591DB4

Select Blackberry 8130 from the dropdown and click Next. Then click the "Download" link that appears at the bottom of the page.

Instructions for installing on any CDMA 8130 from any carrier:

1. Make sure you have the latest version of Desktop Manager installed. It's 4.2 SP2, or Version 4.3, and can be downloaded Click Here. or from the AllTel site linked above.
2. Download the above file to the PC then install it to the PC by running the file you downloaded.
3. Locate the vendor.xml file and delete it. It's located in c:\program files\common files\research in motion\apploader
4. Plug in BB and Open Desktop Manager. You should be prompted to upgrade.

The process takes about 45 minutes to an hour depending on how much data you have to backup and restore during the process. Once it's done loading the new OS it will reboot (it may do this twice during the entire process.) You will see a white screen with an hourglass for up to 20 minutes at a time while the DM says "waiting for initialization."

If you end up with a white screen with small icons and the number 507, simply connect to DM again and run application loader again and it should load the OS to the device.

Previous version OS is located here.

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Default 01-04-2008, 11:39 AM

Thank you, red, this is Stickied.
   
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Default 01-04-2008, 11:41 AM

No prob...others found it first, I just cut/paste the standard update from previous announcements.

The download is very s-l-o-w....hope it's worth the wait!
   
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Default 01-04-2008, 12:04 PM

Thanks. I just had to reload my Sprint OS last week. Not having any issues with it, so just might download this one and keep it available until I need it.

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Default 01-05-2008, 10:31 AM

If I have an Alltel phone do I still need to remove the vendor.xml file? Do I just allow it to start the DM once the installation is complete?
   
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Default Finding OS - 01-05-2008, 11:05 AM

How do find the current OS version? I just picked up my Alltel 8130 yesterday and don't want t go thru an hour download if unnecessary.
   
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Default 01-05-2008, 11:08 AM

If you already have an Alltel phone, you don't need to delete the vendor.xml file.

To find your OS version, click on the Options icon and then click on About. The version is the 3rd line (or so) down.
   
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Default 01-05-2008, 11:10 AM

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How do find the current OS version? I just picked up my Alltel 8130 yesterday and don't want t go thru an hour download if unnecessary.
Go to Options>About and it will tell you what the version and platform are.

I just downloaded the update to my Alltel phone, did not delete the vendor.xml file since it's an Alltel phone and OS and had no problems whatsoever (knock on wood). Once I hooked the phone up to the DM, the install took about 5 minutes. I did not have the long waits that people describe above. Could it be that theirs took longer because they weren't installing the update to Alltel phones??
   
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Default 01-05-2008, 11:12 AM

5 minutes? That doesn't sound right. I've updated many, many phones and they always take a LOT longer than that.

When Desktop Manager started up, did you get a separate dialog box indicating that a new vesion was available and asked you if you wanted to upgrade?
   
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Default 01-05-2008, 11:18 AM

I started the DM, plugged in my phone and the "updates available" info came up. I agreed to the updates. They were installed, then my phone went into the white screen with hourglass mode for about five minutes - literally.

I was shocked that it happened that quick, so I sent to Options>About to check the version and platform and it shows the latest versions. It was weird, though, because it took just a little longer than it does when I do a battery pull to restart.

I don't believe there was much of anything added to this new OS, just a minor fix. Would that be why it could have been so quick?

One thing I have noticed is that after a battery pull I used to have about 18MB of free space. Now I consistently have 16MB. Does that make sense?

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Anybody see any difference from the Sprint os.
   
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Default 01-05-2008, 12:49 PM

Livspop:

The Alltel released OS should be the same as what's on your Alltel Pearl, but I guess there's the possibility that they made some minor tweaks to the OS between releasing the OS to manufacturing and releasing the OS for download. Since the version number is the same, that's what I'd call a "no-no" in SW dev (two diff releases, same version info) but I guess that could have happened. If only a few files were updated, it could go quite quickly.

It certainly isn't five minutes for a "regular" OS update (like when I just applied the .81 Alltel update to my phone running the Sprint .71 version).

Also, did you click the box to backup and then restore your phone during the update?
   
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Default 01-05-2008, 12:57 PM

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Livspop:

The Alltel released OS should be the same as what's on your Alltel Pearl, but I guess there's the possibility that they made some minor tweaks to the OS between releasing the OS to manufacturing and releasing the OS for download. Since the version number is the same, that's what I'd call a "no-no" in SW dev (two diff releases, same version info) but I guess that could have happened. If only a few files were updated, it could go quite quickly.

It certainly isn't five minutes for a "regular" OS update (like when I just applied the .81 Alltel update to my phone running the Sprint .71 version).

Also, did you click the box to backup and then restore your phone during the update?
No, I didn't check that box, but everything that was there before was there after, no problems.

My understanding is that there was a fix in this release, although the number was the same, relating to downloading apps to the phone using the Download Manager. Alltel users were reporting that they were getting an error message when trying to dowload apps via PC with the DM. On other forums they're now reporting that downloading this OS has fixed the problem.

I can't speak to that myself because I downloaded everything OTA. I figured I might as well download this, though, in case I wanted to.
   
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That's not an error related to the OS that they were getting...you can't download ANY apps to a BB w/out the OS for that BB installed on the PC along w/DM. So until Alltel released the OS, the error that was showing up when they tried to use DM to install apps is just a poorly worded message that should (but does not) say that the device OS must be installed on the PC to load apps via USB.

So that's why Alltel folks can load apps via USB now...

I'm thinking that nothing was updated, or something was updated that wasn't releated to the OS...the fact that you didn't do a device backup/restore indicates that you didn't get a "real" OS update, as I'd expect.
   
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That's not an error related to the OS that they were getting...you can't download ANY apps to a BB w/out the OS for that BB installed on the PC along w/DM. So until Alltel released the OS, the error that was showing up when they tried to use DM to install apps is just a poorly worded message that should (but does not) say that the device OS must be installed on the PC to load apps via USB.

So that's why Alltel folks can load apps via USB now...

I'm thinking that nothing was updated, or something was updated that wasn't releated to the OS...the fact that you didn't do a device backup/restore indicates that you didn't get a "real" OS update, as I'd expect.
OK, that makes perfect sense. Atleast I hope I didn't do any damage by "updating." Except that I seem to have 2MB less of free memory than I did before, which I'm not getting back. I can't figure that one out....
   
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It probably installed some RIM apps that aren't factory-installed. My VZW phone did the same thing when I first installed the .60 OS on my computer and then connected my BB.
   
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Default 01-05-2008, 02:33 PM

anyone know of any updates in this OS over previous versions?
   
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Default 01-05-2008, 03:06 PM

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OK, that makes perfect sense. Atleast I hope I didn't do any damage by "updating." Except that I seem to have 2MB less of free memory than I did before, which I'm not getting back. I can't figure that one out....
livspop,
All that happened is you loaded something new to your device that wasn't there before. The OS is the same as what you already had, you just added some app. The subsequent screen would have told you what the module was that was going to be added (or removed) from the device. You didn't update your OS. You simply added something to it from the OS installation package.
   
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anyone know of any updates in this OS over previous versions?
RIM doesn't provide release notes, I think primarily because they know it makes me crazy not knowing even a little bit about what's changed... ;)
   
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All that happened is you loaded something new to your device that wasn't there before. The OS is the same as what you already had, you just added some app. The subsequent screen would have told you what the module was that was going to be added (or removed) from the device. You didn't update your OS. You simply added something to it from the OS installation package.
Would it possibly have been the Semitic and Russian Characters and Font support? Can I delete those from the application list? I don't remember them being there before.
   
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RIM doesn't provide release notes, I think primarily because they know it makes me crazy not knowing even a little bit about what's changed... ;)
oh i know very well RIM policies, i was posting that asking if anyone that installed it noticed anything different

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Default 01-05-2008, 04:19 PM

I will let you know I am about to install it.
   
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Got it on, all went well, I gained just a little over 1mb with this installed. Will be checking, If anyone has a question just ask.
   
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Got it on, all went well, I gained just a little over 1mb with this installed. Will be checking, If anyone has a question just ask.
hearing that you have more memory is great! i have the 8130 on verizon too and have been thinking about a software update. i usually wait for the official verizon update though. my 8130 sometimes freezes up after i end a call. do you see any differences in this new software over the other version? any different options, menus, choices, etc.? thanks!


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i just installed the new software and making/recieving calls is just fine, i notice very little lag moving between applications.
   
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i just installed the new software and making/recieving calls is just fine, i notice very little lag moving between applications.
great news! do you see any othere differences on your verizon 8130?


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havent played with it that much actually. just some basic testing at this point.
   
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I haven't noticed anything major just yet, just the memory and I have had all the versions on my BB.
   
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Been running the update since yesterday and haven't noticed anything new. It's too early to see if the memory leak is still there. They haven't fixed the bluetooth issue yet. My bluetooth still turns itself off randomly.
   
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The Bluetooth issue is interesting. I haven't experienced it. I use it with my GPS puck, and BT headset and don't get drop outs, even with long sessions.

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Been running the update since yesterday and haven't noticed anything new. It's too early to see if the memory leak is still there. They haven't fixed the bluetooth issue yet. My bluetooth still turns itself off randomly.
   
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Been running the update since yesterday and haven't noticed anything new. It's too early to see if the memory leak is still there. They haven't fixed the bluetooth issue yet. My bluetooth still turns itself off randomly.
Is your bluetooth LED indicator on or off?
   
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Same here I have not had any issues with bluetooth, with any of the O.S. and I used all 4.
   
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Is your bluetooth LED indicator on or off?
Indicator is on. I have another thread that you posted in as well. It still turns off. I've had 3 phones now and they all do it. I was hoping to see it fixed in one of the software releases. Never had this issue on my 8830.

Issue is I'll go to pick up a phone call with my bluetooth and it doesn't work. It's not that the bluetooth disconnects. The bluetooth on the phone is actually disabled. The blue B is gone and it is turned off. I turn it back on, they pair, and it works just fine for a while again. It's very random. May happen a couple times a day or maybe not for a couple days. It's just very frustrating as I spend a lot of time on the phone since I'm in tech support.

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I noticed this same thing for the first time yesterday on my Verizon Pearl. My headset was still on, but the bluetooth on the phone had been turned off (not by me).

Not sure what causes this, but it's only happened 1-2 times for me.
   
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I noticed this same thing for the first time yesterday on my Verizon Pearl. My headset was still on, but the bluetooth on the phone had been turned off (not by me).

Not sure what causes this, but it's only happened 1-2 times for me.
Yep, that's the symptom. Quite a PITA for me even if it is only occasional.
   
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Default 01-13-2008, 02:09 PM

So the newest version of the os is 4.3.0.149? If i go in for a pearl on sprint to ask for it before installing apps at home?


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If you buy from Sprint you'll get their release, which is 4.3,0,71. The AllTel release is 4.3.0.81.
   
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What is the benefit of this version versus the newest Verizon software?
   
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Default 01-13-2008, 10:22 PM

BT Headset calls started when the phone is in standby mode work, going into standby does not require a confirmation prompt, and it has better memory management. Likely other things under the hood, but there aren't any release notes from RIM, so it's hard to say what has been fixed, tweaked, or improved.

Trust us, it's better than the initial version released on the VZW Pearl, worth upgrading IMHO, but of course you can wait for an updated version to come from Verizon if you want.
   
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Default 01-14-2008, 10:52 AM

I have Pearl 8100, then i cant use this update?
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