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Old 03-18-2008, 03:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I consider getting 8130 Pearl for my verizon account. Could anyone help with information references and necessary software regarding possible workarounds for the following (for which Verizon employees say formally does not work, but one hinted it is possible to find workarounds on the web):

- use the 8130 as a modem (tethering) via bluetooth, instead of a USB cable.
- tether my laptop while on the standard $29.99/month data plan.
- use the GPS with Google maps.

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Old 03-18-2008, 03:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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For the second "issue" you will need to add their tethering plan. I don't believe there is a workaround for that.

For the third issue, you will have to first purchase Verizon's VZNavigator package. That will unlock their GPS and then you can use Google Maps. Otherwise, it is a no go. The GPS is locked until you get the VZNavigator program from what I have heard from other users here.
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Verizon will require you to add the tethering feature to your account in order to obtain that functionality. If you have a voice and a data plan, the cost is $15/mo. If you have only a data plan without a voice plan, it's $30/mo. If your data plan is unlimited, you will get unlimited tethering. This is from my local VZW rep as of 1/22/08.
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Actually with the 29.99 bis plan the tethering plan is. $ 30 on the 44.99 plan (bes)its $15
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Actually with the 29.99 bis plan the tethering plan is. $ 30 on the 44.99 plan (bes)its $15
Actually it is what I said it is. It is not related simply to the data plan you have, but if you have a voice plan also. We're on BES, and to determine the cost of tethering, they needed to take into account what the voice plan was, and they STRONGLY recommend the unlimited data plan, else you're likely to incur data overuse charges while tethered.

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Actually with the 29.99 bis plan the tethering plan is. $ 30 on the 44.99 plan (bes)its $15
Wrong. you just havent talked to the right person
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on *most* plans its $15. it is recommended you get the unlimited data plan to avoid overage charges, but you can tether without the unlimited plan (as long as you have the tethering feature added).
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BlackBerry maps and or Google Maps GPS does NOT work simply by adding VZNavigator. VZW has GPS locked and it doesn't unlock just from adding that service.

Location works, in a limited way, with Google, but that is because they are plotting the cell site you are hitting.
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GPS works on VZW if you subscribe to VZnav, launch the application, then switch to google maps and launch it. this will allow you to mapquest, google maps, telenav, etc
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Actually it is what I said it is. It is not related simply to the data plan you have, but if you have a voice plan also. We're on BES, and to determine the cost of tethering, they needed to take into account what the voice plan was, and they STRONGLY recommend the unlimited data plan, else you're likely to incur data overuse charges while tethered.
I apologize my last post was a bit short I did not mean to sound like a know it all. I actually work for Verizon wireless.
There was a recent change to the bba connect product and the price is now based on the data plan that you have not the voice plan also tethered usage is separate from the data you use on the phone so you wouldn't cause overage on you phone data plan by using it as a tethered modem

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Old 03-18-2008, 11:01 PM   #11 (permalink)
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GPS works on VZW if you subscribe to VZnav, launch the application, then switch to google maps and launch it. this will allow you to mapquest, google maps, telenav, etc
i tried that on a test run of vznav free month from Verizon. (its amazing how much they will actually give for free. Just ask em and tou will get a free month to "try it out")

i can confirm this workaround doesnt work. i tried with google maps, blackberry maps, and the GPS in berry411, none of which worked.
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The guy told me that the data limit was 5 gb even when you have the tether plan! I don't know if he misspoke or what, but that's what he said. That would be a ripoff and you could easily go over that if you were a heavy media user who streamed video or downloaded video online. Even if you were a heavy music listener it would be easy to go over that. He actually told me, all sneakily, that once people go over 5 gb they just slow it down to where it's too slow to use....they don't drop the connection altogether. That's some bullsh*t!
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Now they no longer reduce your speed after 5gb like they used to. It stays the same and it costs $.49/mb after 5gb

As of the beginning of this month.
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The guy told me that the data limit was 5 gb even when you have the tether plan! I don't know if he misspoke or what, but that's what he said. That would be a ripoff and you could easily go over that if you were a heavy media user who streamed video or downloaded video online. Even if you were a heavy music listener it would be easy to go over that. He actually told me, all sneakily, that once people go over 5 gb they just slow it down to where it's too slow to use....they don't drop the connection altogether. That's some bullsh*t!
This service is definitely not supposed be your primary internet connection its for browsing its not for p2p sharing gaming or streaming
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