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Old 03-27-2008, 07:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Um I was in class today and I wanted to take pictures but my BB 8100 kept making the shutter sound. So i was sitting in the class when I decided to take a pic of people outside the classroom. Oh I sit next to a huge window and I can see people walking by. But the window is loaded up with posters and stuff that my teacher glued on the window. She always put the best posters up on the window and mine never get glued up there. Yea anyway I took a pic but the fone made a shutter sound while we were reading a book in class. So my stupid techer took my fone away and gave it back to me after the class. I remember putting my fone in vibrate or silent and still the camera made a sound. Is there a way to make the sound silent and stuff? Ok thanks
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Um I was in class today and I wanted to take pictures but my BB 8100 kept making the shutter sound. So i was sitting in the class when I decided to take a pic of people outside the classroom. Oh I sit next to a huge window and I can see people walking by. But the window is loaded up with posters and stuff that my teacher glued on the window. She always put the best posters up on the window and mine never get glued up there. Yea anyway I took a pic but the fone made a shutter sound while we were reading a book in class. So my stupid techer took my fone away and gave it back to me after the class. I remember putting my fone in vibrate or silent and still the camera made a sound. Is there a way to make the sound silent and stuff? Ok thanks
not unless you have headphones plugged into the device. its actually a regulation now that the shutter sound on devices cant be manually turned off due to privacy laws. apparently they think by turning off the shutter it makes it easy to take pictures of things or people without being noticed and with all this terrorism and whatnot going on and all the perverts out there it should be obvious why such a regulation would have gone into effect. RIM confirmed this.
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Old 03-28-2008, 01:28 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Maybe I shouldn't share this but I will
Call your voicemail, and then go in and turn on the camera...
As long as you turn down the volume on the phone, you wont hear the computer voice giving you options, and it silences the outloud shutter sound

Other than those two options (I've not tried VirexInc's, however) there is no way to actually disable the shutter sound, even on the "silent" profile
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not unless you have headphones plugged into the device. its actually a regulation now that the shutter sound on devices cant be manually turned off due to privacy laws. apparently they think by turning off the shutter it makes it easy to take pictures of things or people without being noticed and with all this terrorism and whatnot going on and all the perverts out there it should be obvious why such a regulation would have gone into effect. RIM confirmed this.

And what regulation is this? How do they do this on high end film based cameras? I am just curious.

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And what regulation is this? How do they do this on high end film based cameras? I am just curious.

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Now that I think about it, the shutter sound on my digi cam is turned off.. and it's almost a brand new phone (Christmas this year)

I apologize if this seems off-topic, now that I post it it kind of does to me, but now I just couldn't resist.. I mean, of course the government has magic dust!
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Magic dust? =)
Now that I think about it, the shutter sound on my digi cam is turned off.. and it's almost a brand new phone (Christmas this year)

I apologize if this seems off-topic, now that I post it it kind of does to me, but now I just couldn't resist.. I mean, of course the government has magic dust!
Ive got some Magic Dust for sale if you would like it, but its a package deal with the golden gate bridge...

To get technical on you, if you delete the sound module from your OS, it will not make the sound
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Ive got some Magic Dust for sale if you would like it, but its a package deal with the golden gate bridge...

To get technical on you, if you delete the sound module from your OS, it will not make the sound
Does that mean, I would OWN the golden gate bridge, and could kick everyone else off and make it a giant RC car racing track? That might just be worth it!

What else would that disable though?
Hearing your phone ring? texts? This is something I might just have to look in to!
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Does that mean, I would OWN the golden gate bridge, and could kick everyone else off and make it a giant RC car track? That might just be worth it!

What else would that disable though?
Hearing your phone ring? texts? This is something I might just have to look in to!
I'm trying some things out as I type this to see what solution I can come up with, maybe editing will work, if I can find the right line of code...then again it may take me a week to find it.
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Well, definitely keep us (or me, if no one else really cares lol) posted! And don't brick a phone in the process of course!
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Well, definitely keep us (or me, if no one else really cares lol) posted! And don't brick a phone in the process of course!
All my testing is done on a spare 8130, so if i really screw something up and it takes a few hours to fix, its no big deal. Definitely will post my findings, if I have success.
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So far I did find reference to a camerashutter.mid file, thats some progress
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And what regulation is this? How do they do this on high end film based cameras? I am just curious.

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i asked the same question because i had a somewhat new verizon phone before my pearl and i was able to disable the shutter sound. the CSR at RIM told the regulations that govern their company prohibit them from making a device with the shutter sounds being able to be manually disabled. now wether this is a govt contract issue or the fact that they are canada based idk
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So far, no luck, trying to disable the sound just knocks the whole thing out
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So far, no luck, trying to disable the sound just knocks the whole thing out
i am pretty sure RIM has taken in to consideration the ability to just delete the sound module with trying to disable the shutter sound i bet they hard coded the camera ONLY to work if all the modules are present and installed. like i said, if its a regulation imposed on RIM wether in canada or by contract i am sure they already figured guys like you and i would try to just delete that sound module. they beat us to the punch
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Doesn't mean it wasn't worth a shot!

They didn't think of the phone call work around, what makes us think they'd instantly think of the modules?

who knows, but it was worth a shot.
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i am pretty sure RIM has taken in to consideration the ability to just delete the sound module with trying to disable the shutter sound i bet they hard coded the camera ONLY to work if all the modules are present and installed. like i said, if its a regulation imposed on RIM wether in canada or by contract i am sure they already figured guys like you and i would try to just delete that sound module. they beat us to the punch
I wasn't actually deleting the sound module, rather went about editing the net_rim_bb_camera.cod to try and remove the links to the actual sound the camera calls on, but again to no avail. All attempts kept negating any camera function. But after all, the security is one of the main reasons to buy BlackBerry.

PS. I am not a programmer, which could be part of the problem.
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I am not a programmer, which could be part of the problem.
we need to find a source code work around, then we could set false values when it tries to access the shutter sound when a picture is taken.

in programming there is no such thing as house with no doors. RIM just turned off the lights in the house and we are looking blind for the door. trust me there is a work around, we just have to find it
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well then you go find the stinking lightswitch!

Lol I can't... I'm pretending to be asleep.. But I agree, there's gotta be a way!
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we need to find a source code work around, then we could set false values when it tries to access the shutter sound when a picture is taken.

in programming there is no such thing as house with no doors. RIM just turned off the lights in the house and we are looking blind for the door. trust me there is a work around, we just have to find it
I agree completely, but our best bet may be to try and find someone with a flashlight
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I do HTML editing/coding... does that count?
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