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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 79
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
Model: 8330
OS: 4.5.0.56
PIN: 31AE1088
Carrier: U.S. Cellular
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06-24-2008, 05:58 PM
Wirelessly posted
Something I've noticed in the weeks I've had this OS are as follows:
More memory
Camera always asks me if I want to save to the memory card
Fonts are bigger in certain themes
My blackberry typing game resets with ever restart
And the speaker phone problem still exists (as said above)
And the memory link while not fixed is still A LOT better. It takes my phone to get to 0 bytes for it to clear my logs, text messages, etc.
And overall I like this OS a lot better than the previous just for the last reason. Anyone else find something else I forgot/didn't see?
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 26
Join Date: Nov 2007
Model: 8130
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Verizon Wireless
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06-27-2008, 09:22 PM
Thanks everyone. I updated to the new OS and it went smooth.
Interestingly enough I have a BES account and did not have to re-register with corporate blackberry server. Everything continued to work without a hitch.
There is one small issue and that is that I can't seem to get Wireless reconciling to work. Essentially when I open up Outlook or a mail on my blackberry, the other doesn't recognize that I've already read it. The wireless reconcile option is turned on my Blackberry in the 'Messages' Options. Any ideas how this could happen? I tried googling but didn't have much luck.
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 33,164
Join Date: Jun 2005
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.250
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06-27-2008, 09:32 PM
If you look in Options >Advanced Options >Enterprise Activation does it say "Activated" with a date? If not, that could be your problem.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 26
Join Date: Nov 2007
Model: 8130
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Carrier: Verizon Wireless
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06-27-2008, 10:03 PM
Hi John,
Yes it does say Activated on June 26, 2008 which is when I did the upgrade. I seem to get mail just fine and my calendar is also synced. Its just the reconciliation of emails doesn't seem to work.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 26
Join Date: Nov 2007
Model: 8130
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Verizon Wireless
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06-28-2008, 10:16 AM
Well i've noticed a couple additional issues that I'm having. I believe these are strictly related to the fact I'm on a BES so maybe it will help someone else.
I noticed that under Options > Default Services I no longer have Data there.
Also when I reply to an email I don't have the 'Send' option. I looked it up and noted that I need to have my security profile pushed back to my Blackberry from the corporate Blackberry server.
I came across the following URL:
Blackberry - No Send Options, unable to reply to emails - Tech-Recipes.com
In addition, another problem I'm having is my Blackberry will not beep or sound when I get a new email. I do get notification I have an email but no sound. Meanwhile my gmail client sounds with an email. I'm hoping the above fix will resolve that as well. I have a ticket in with the HelpDesk so hopefully that does it!
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 33,164
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06-28-2008, 11:38 AM
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Look in options >advanced options >service book. Do you have a bunch of service books labeled [Desktop]? I don't think your BB is activated properly on your bes. There is no send option because you don't have the CMIME [Desktop] service book. You don't get a notification because that account hasn't been properly recreated.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 26
Join Date: Nov 2007
Model: 8130
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Carrier: Verizon Wireless
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06-28-2008, 03:30 PM
John,
I do have a bunch of service books labeled Desktop. As the link above does show, that you can have service books displayed but still have a problem. I believe they just need to be pushed back to my phone as during the upgrade I guess it does in fact screw something up with BES. As mentioned, I have an open ticket with my helpdesk so hopefully they resolve it soon.
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06-28-2008, 03:36 PM
you can try to push books with your wireless carrier (verizon) on their BIS site. it prob wont fix it because your problems lie in BES from what i understand, but its worth a try i suppose =
TFLN
- (405): There really should be an "avoid ghetto" option on my GPS.
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BBF Moderator
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06-28-2008, 03:46 PM
Wirelessly posted (BB 11020)
That won't have any effect. He needs to reactivate on BES.
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Email Deletes without prompt? -
06-30-2008, 11:58 AM
I have 4 email accounts and after installing the new OS I noticed that on my gmail account it will only pop up the delete screen. Before the update it would prompt me to delete from the handheld, Server etc. I checked my settings and its set to prompt? Any help or anyone else have this issue? It is only happening with the gmail account that is the odd thing?
Last edited by Blair40 : 06-30-2008 at 12:00 PM.
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BBF Moderator
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06-30-2008, 12:13 PM
Resend your service books.
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06-30-2008, 01:57 PM
Awhile ago I downloaded the latest upgrade from verizon's website which was dated 2/26/08 and now I see there is this latest upgrade. I just checked verizon's website and they still have the 2/26 version online. I wonder how long it is going to take for them to update their website because I would prefer to download from them so I don't have to change whatever you guys are saying I need to change, but on the other hand I don't want to have to wait until next year before they get their act together. But good to know this is here if I decide to give up waiting for verizon.
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 33,164
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06-30-2008, 02:06 PM
Most likely their next update will be 4.5. Probably won't be until later in the year, though.
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06-30-2008, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by John Clark
Resend your service books.
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I did that still have the gmail account not asking me at the prompt scrteen just say's delete or cancel?
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 33,164
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06-30-2008, 02:32 PM
Also, when you check your settings to set to prompt, are you setting it for each account? You have to set it for each individual account. Also, on the BIS site did you check "reconcile deleted emails on this account" (might not be the exact wording.)
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 84
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Georgia
Model: 8330
OS: v4.5.0.77
Carrier: verizon
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06-30-2008, 04:46 PM
Thank you John for once again giving us the most concise instructions. Your thread made this upgrade easy.
However, I had hoped to gain more memory and unfortunatly I don't seem to see any significant increase. I don't have a lot of added apps (just viigo, beyond 411, tinytwitter & weather.com). Is additional memory a bonus to some but not generally expected with this upgrade?
Thanks...
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 36
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: California
Model: 8130
PIN: 317CCC50
Carrier: Sprint
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07-01-2008, 05:28 PM
I installed the latest OS from Sprint. Last night I downloaded the Desktop Manager 4.5 from the Blackberry site, haven't istalled it yet; it's on the desktop in my Laptop. Can it be used for a Sprint CDMA device? And if I can, what advantage would there be in doing so instead of waiting for Sprint's DM 4.5?
thank you,
artie.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 25
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: WA
Model: 8130
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07-01-2008, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by artie
I installed the latest OS from Sprint. Last night I downloaded the Desktop Manager 4.5 from the Blackberry site, haven't istalled it yet; it's on the desktop in my Laptop. Can it be used for a Sprint CDMA device? And if I can, what advantage would there be in doing so instead of waiting for Sprint's DM 4.5?
thank you,
artie.
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Hi Artie. You can install the DM 4.5 for any device. I am pretty sure the DM versions are not device specific. You do need to make sure that you have downloaded the actual Desktop Manager and not the Device Manager. The file size should be 192MB and it is at the bottom of the page.
I have installed DM 4.5 with my Sprint 8130 (CDMA) and everything syncs properly. I don't use the media manager though, so I don't know if that is working properly.
I am having one issue though, which is I can't get a connection under the help drop down in the upper right corner to show me the device properties.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 36
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: California
Model: 8130
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07-01-2008, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JNHohol
Hi Artie. You can install the DM 4.5 for any device. I am pretty sure the DM versions are not device specific. You do need to make sure that you have downloaded the actual Desktop Manager and not the Device Manager. The file size should be 192MB and it is at the bottom of the page.
I have installed DM 4.5 with my Sprint 8130 (CDMA) and everything syncs properly. I don't use the media manager though, so I don't know if that is working properly.
I am having one issue though, which is I can't get a connection under the help drop down in the upper right corner to show me the device properties.
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Thank you JN,
did you uninstall the old DM from your PC before installing the new one?
thank you,
artie.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 25
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Location: WA
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07-01-2008, 08:57 PM
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Artie-
I did it both ways. I first left the old DM on the computer and ran the install for DM 4.5. While it was installing it popped up a message about needing to remove some Roxio file. I told it to and everything installed properly.
When I found the problem with the device properties under the help option with DM 4.5, I uninstalled all the DM versions, as well as, the 4.3.0.97 OS I still had on my computer. Then I reintalled DM 4.5 to see if that would take care of it and it didn't.
As far as any new features I have seen so far, it now checks to see if you have installed a new device OS on your computer so that it will upgrade your device for you. Otherwise, you had to run the app loader and update the new OS from there.
If you don't use the media manager or listen to music with your BlackBerry, I don't see any real reason to upgrade now. I just wanted the newest version.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 36
Join Date: Aug 2005
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07-01-2008, 09:04 PM
Wirelessly posted (Blackberry 8130)
Thank you, Ar†ie.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 57
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Asheville, NC
Model: 9530
OS: 5.0.0.328
Carrier: Verizon
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07-01-2008, 09:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by devotedtoyoux3
I have the 8130 with verizon and the os on my phone says it is 4.3.0.60 is that newer or older than the one on here?
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That is older than the one mentioned on here. So try to update it as mentioned if you are looking for a newer version.
Good luck just the same!!! 
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 57
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Asheville, NC
Model: 9530
OS: 5.0.0.328
Carrier: Verizon
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07-01-2008, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tduffy
Has anyone installed this on an 8130 from Verizon and ran into any issues? Just want to make sure before I try it.
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After updating it to this I began to get my voicemail icon stuck ... I know there are those who say this was not the reason ... but when I reverted back to an older version ... mine is 4.3.097 ( Platform 3.10.51) the issue went away and has not come back and it has been three weeks.
Here is the link for the older version ... hope it works out for you!!!
Other than that I have not had any other problems ... but I personally will wait until Verizon does an update ... and then take my chances.
Hope that helps!!!
Peace ALL 
Last edited by pastor_rob : 07-01-2008 at 09:17 PM.
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New Member
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07-01-2008, 10:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Clark
Also, when you check your settings to set to prompt, are you setting it for each account? You have to set it for each individual account. Also, on the BIS site did you check "reconcile deleted emails on this account" (might not be the exact wording.)
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I just loaded my back up and now it works fine thanks for the help. I was told by Verizon that this update will be on their site next week but if its like the last time nothing new. Any way thanks for the help. I also get that icon for the typing app I just hide it but anyone know what is up with that?
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07-03-2008, 04:07 PM
Just an uneducated newbie to the BB world, If I am running on a imac how can I install the new software?
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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07-05-2008, 10:16 AM
avionicsman, if you have a intel iMac, you can install a BootCamp/Windows partition and then BB DM. If not, buddy up with someone who has a Windows machine and use theirs. As it stands, you need to use Windoze based DM to update the phone software.
Hey! Maybe it's an excuse to upgrade your iMac to a nice shiny new one! Heh heh heh... 
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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07-07-2008, 02:06 PM
i have a verizon 8130. i am showing v4.3.0.71 platform 3.10.37
is this new os update v4.3.0.127 patform 3.1.0.73 going to be an improvement?
the version is lower but the platform is higher. when updating im not sure if i should be using the v. or the platform to guage wether my OS is outdated.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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07-07-2008, 02:56 PM
have a verizon 8130. i am showing v4.3.0.71 platform 3.10.37
is this new os update v4.3.0.127 patform 3.1.0.73 going to be an improvement?
the version is lower but the platform is higher. when updating im not sure if i should be using the v. or the platform to guage wether my OS is outdated.
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07-07-2008, 03:04 PM
Most likely. Read this thread to find out what others have experienced.
The version is not lower. .127 is higher than .71.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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Media Manager not recognizing my Device -
07-08-2008, 12:04 AM
I upgraded to the new .203 device software and 4.5 Desktop Manager software and now Roxio is not recognizing my balckberry. Any suggestions?
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 277
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Upstate NY
Model: Storm
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07-09-2008, 04:55 PM
I am attempting to upgrade my daughter's Verizon8130 and I have followed the instructions. When I launch the desktop manager it recognizes that an update is available and I select update. It reads the phone and shows the list of items to be updated, (so far so good). But when I select next I get an error that says "The application browser cannot be loaded because it requires the following application that is not available net.rim.blackberry.xml". Anyone have any ideas? I have already tried uninstalling the handheld upgrade and re-downloaded and re-installed it. I also tried re-sending service books to the device and updated host routing tables. I should point out that the browser does work on her device. I have updated my 8830 and previous models numerous times, and never got an error like this. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
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BBF Moderator
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07-09-2008, 08:24 PM
Wirelessly posted (BB 11020)
That usually happens when you edit the blackberry.alx incorrectly. Are you attempting to edit the blackberry.alx file? Usually a reinstallation of the OS will fix it.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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07-09-2008, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by John Clark
Wirelessly posted (BB 11020)
That usually happens when you edit the blackberry.alx incorrectly. Are you attempting to edit the blackberry.alx file? Usually a reinstallation of the OS will fix it.
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You might be onto something there, yes I was editing the blackberry.alx file. I was doing so to make sure all themes were unlocked, I have done it before with no problems. Must have made a mistake, I will re-install the device OS and leave the alx file alone and try it again. Thanks
You were right, what I had done in my haste, is not only removed the vendor codes but also removed the > at the end of the lines in the alx file, which kind of screwed it up. Thanks again
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Last edited by paulmac : 07-10-2008 at 11:50 AM.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 63
Join Date: Jul 2008
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07-28-2008, 08:58 PM
Still no HTML email?
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07-29-2008, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by cmjanus
Still no HTML email?
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That's apparently one of the new features in the upcoming 4.5 OS.
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If you have a BlackBerry Pearl 8130, you'll get:
• Automatic playlist generation in the media player • Microsoft Office document editing with DocumentsToGo • Native format attachment downloading • HTML e-mails • Over-the-air device upgrades • Free/busy calendar lookup • Searching the server for old e-mail messages
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hxxp://www . blackberryforums.com/general-blackberry-discussion/116258-blackberry-4-5-hh-feature-list.html
(can't post links because my post count is lower than 10, but you get the gist)
Last edited by helter : 07-29-2008 at 05:55 AM.
Reason: updating with more information
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 63
Join Date: Jul 2008
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07-29-2008, 12:23 PM
Tried to update, but when I open DM, nothing happens. Installed OS on PC and deleted file. I have new DM 4.5. Any suggestions?
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 26
Join Date: Nov 2007
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07-30-2008, 09:56 AM
So I have to ask this because since my upgrade, something weird happened when I left town for business.
My home network is DC and went to Dallas where they have EVDO and my phone and data was working just fine.
Now that I'm in the midwest this week where there is no EVDO and I'm receiving data but when anybody calls me I get nothing on my phone. No rings, nothing. On the other end it just rings and then eventually goes into voicemail.
Is there any suggestions? I called Verizon and they attributed this to my upgraded OS!
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 26
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07-30-2008, 10:00 AM
Oh yeah its also that I can't receive calls, I can seem to be able to dial out and I'm receiving my work email just fine and all data is going through correctly.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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07-30-2008, 10:45 AM
NEVERMIND. Figured it out and its an issue with US Cellular and roaming. It seems like VZW is low on the priority list for incoming calls on US Cellular. If you have VZW in the Oklahoma area I think you're SOL!
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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07-30-2008, 11:37 PM
I updated my phone and went from 13MB to 14MB... It didn't seem like the difference everyone is talking about??? Could it have possibly not have correctly updated correctly?? I did a battery pull after wards to but it made no difference.
(I have taken off the unused languages, sample video, brick breaker, password keeper, I have under 100 contacts, and 4 pictures on the phone, don't keep my emails on it, no 3rd party apps...)
should the memory be higher at this point?
I read someone went from 12MB to 24... I want that!! Haha. 
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