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08-11-2008, 06:03 PM
Did you delete the vendor.xml file?
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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08-11-2008, 06:04 PM
lol..ill let JS take care of you
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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08-11-2008, 06:24 PM
Did you install it? The file you downloaded? Turn off DM and install the downloaded file.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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Join Date: Jan 2008
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08-11-2008, 06:35 PM
Can anyone who has downloaded 4.5.0.56 tell me if they are losing their icon layout after a battery pull or reset when using the dimension tday plus theme?
I had this problem using the beta 4.5.0.66 code also.
One of the issues with the media player seem to be fixed from 4.5.0.66 but not all...if using the media player & u receive a text, i get the notification, but the player doesn't pick back up playing the current song (u hafta hit play) On 4.5.0.66 the player would stop when recv'g a ph call or text msg...56 seems to pick back up on current song after disconnecting from a phone call.
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BBF Moderator
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08-11-2008, 06:47 PM
The icon issue is a known issue with the Today plus themes on OS 4.5.
Um, you downgraded from 4.5.0.66 to 4.5.0.56? Did you do this on purpose?
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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08-11-2008, 07:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Clark
The icon issue is a known issue with the Today plus themes on OS 4.5.
Um, you downgraded from 4.5.0.66 to 4.5.0.56? Did you do this on purpose?
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Thanx for the info on the theme...wasn't aware of that.
I downgraded to 56 becuz i had numerous issues with 66 & plus, it's beta
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BBF Moderator
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08-11-2008, 07:12 PM
You can call it a "beta." However, there's a good chance that VZW or any of the other carriers will release .66 and then it's no longer a "beta." Personally, I'd stick with the newest release unless there is an apparent reason to downgrade. YMMV.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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08-11-2008, 07:21 PM
Are there any other known issues?
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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08-11-2008, 08:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Clark
You can call it a "beta." However, there's a good chance that VZW or any of the other carriers will release .66 and then it's no longer a "beta." Personally, I'd stick with the newest release unless there is an apparent reason to downgrade. YMMV.
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Thanx....that was my intent, but for me, 56 seems to run better than 66.
Here are the few issues that I've seen so far:
* when using headphone jack into aux port on car stereo, when phone call is received, it does not automatically activate the headset profile, which should pipe the audio thru my stereo. Activate headset must be done manually.
*this one was stated earlier...when using music player, if a txt is received, the music player will stop. u hafta manually press play to resume the current song.
* Using the BB Dimension Today Plus theme, icon layout isn't saved if phone is restarted
(have since learned this is a known issue on 4.5)
With all that being said, I will probably fall back to 4.3.0.127, as imo, the upgrades n 4.5 for the pearl, aren't that much & i was happy with the overall performance of my pearl on 4.3.0.127
Good luck everyone.
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New Member
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08-11-2008, 08:39 PM
Hey Guys, I was able to download the OS. I used address in Canada instead of US address and It let me download!!!!! so give it a try.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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08-11-2008, 09:26 PM
Wirelessly posted
Ok, just downloaded and finished installing on my alltel 8130. First thoughts, my phone seems peppier in performance. Cool thing I noticed right away, the media player looks a bit different now and now there is an equalizer function. There are lots of presets but no customizable option. Still pretty cool and it seems effective. Question, is 4.5 supposed to have mms now or is that something that alltel still has to implement? Thanks.
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08-11-2008, 09:28 PM
I'm 99.9999% sure that MMS is something that your carrier has to allow or not. It's that way with Sprint, anyway. Not sure about Alltel.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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08-11-2008, 10:04 PM
Nope. Not yet. Alltel still can't figure out how to make MMS work with the Blackberry.
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New Member
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08-11-2008, 10:21 PM
ya, Alltell is the one holding you back from MMS.
So has anybody tried out the HTML feature on email yet? If so what do you think?
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New Member
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08-12-2008, 02:18 AM
Thanks for posting the link.
Everything worked fine installation wise. Oddly, it looks like it's for BES users only (I know that's mainly a DM 'sync' difference in DM software, not BB firmware, but...). Evidence: Email setup on the 4.5 BB is only for BES (no BIS option). Also there seems no way to choose mailbox & handheld vs handheld only deletes of email. All threads have been read and all options are set to "prompt," Confirm delete set to Yes and either Wireless reconcile on or off---nothing seems to turn the prompt back on, it's delete from both or not.
Any ideas? Thanks!
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BBF Moderator
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08-12-2008, 02:23 AM
Welcome to BBF!
Slow down there, whirlwind! It's NOT for BES users only. If you are missing your email setup for BIS you'll need to resend your service books. Go to the BIS site for Verizon and resend them. This will fix your delete confirmations, as well. When the service books are missing or corrupted you can open the email and then scroll up into the headers and it will say "Recieved using: Unknown." After you send the service books all new emails should say your email address instead of "unknown."
If you don't know how to go to your BIS logon page, here are the links:
Where can I log into my BIS account? - BlackBerryFAQ
Also, BES has nothing to do with Desktop Manager software. In fact, most BES users don't even need Desktop Manager software except for loading a new OS.
Last edited by John Clark : 08-12-2008 at 02:25 AM.
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New Member
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08-12-2008, 02:28 AM
Thanks. That's what I thought, from all the great info on this board. Oddly, just after posting, I went back and the email set up shows the non-BES (individual email setup) option now (?).
Since most of the downloading here are from non MTS Mobility users (like yourself), is the resending of the service books the only way to bring this feature back?
Thanks again!
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BBF Moderator
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08-12-2008, 02:32 AM
Yes, you need to resend the service books. However, if you have the "setup internet email" or "manage internet email" icon (or whatever the icon says,) you can use that to login and resend your service books. It's a simple procedure and any BB user should know how to do it.
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New Member
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Alls well -
08-12-2008, 02:49 AM
Thanks again. Service books sent from the BB browser (email setup) fixed the problem.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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08-12-2008, 10:18 AM
Oddly enough, when my phone rebooted after install, it re-registered itself and the service books sent automagically.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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08-12-2008, 11:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CoreyGmaN
So has anybody tried out the HTML feature on email yet? If so what do you think?
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I upgraded my phone to 4.5 yesterday. HTML email still doesn't work for me.
I have gone into Options/About and confirmed that my OS is now v4.5.0.56.
I have received several HTML emails. They all still display just like they did in 4.3 - i.e. as raw HTML. I'm using BIS - no BES - to receive pushed email from my domain's mail server that is hosted with my ISP. I have a rule on my domain mail server that forwards the emails to my blackberry.net email address. The same emails display like they are supposed to when viewed in Outlook, after retrieving them with it via POP3.
Am I missing something?
- Stuart
Verizon 8130 (on the bench, now 
Verizon 9530
Last edited by StuartV : 08-12-2008 at 11:06 AM.
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New Member
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08-12-2008, 11:25 AM
I have multiple email accounts on my phone.
Now that I have upgraded, I can now get HTML email with the POP3 account, but the email I get from my Blackberry Desktop Redirector, which sends from my outlook, is still not HTML. Any idea on how to get that part to work?
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08-12-2008, 11:36 AM
Have you deleted your Service Books on your BB, etc., following the instructions here?
http://www.blackberryforums.com/rim-...lackberry.html
Quote:
Originally Posted by StuartV
I upgraded my phone to 4.5 yesterday. HTML email still doesn't work for me.
I have gone into Options/About and confirmed that my OS is now v4.5.0.56.
I have received several HTML emails. They all still display just like they did in 4.3 - i.e. as raw HTML. I'm using BIS - no BES - to receive pushed email from my domain's mail server that is hosted with my ISP. I have a rule on my domain mail server that forwards the emails to my blackberry.net email address. The same emails display like they are supposed to when viewed in Outlook, after retrieving them with it via POP3.
Am I missing something?
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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08-12-2008, 12:00 PM
Thanks! While I was waiting for somebody to help me, I went ahead and sent the service books, just to see what would happen. Sure enough, HTML email is working now.
- Stuart
Verizon 8130 (on the bench, now 
Verizon 9530
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08-12-2008, 01:59 PM
CoreyGMan-
My BES email doesn't show HTML emails either, though my two BIS ones do. I would guess that BES doesn't support it (yet).
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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08-12-2008, 02:09 PM
I get a fatal error when trying to update. It hangs up on "conecting to boot rom" or something like that, and gives me a fatal error.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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08-12-2008, 02:15 PM
hmm..i downloaded the file posted but i'm not prompted to do an update. i deleted vendor.xml *did a search on my pc, and its not found* but still no go. if i open desktop manager, go to help, then about BB Desktop manager, then over to device software v4.5.0.56 is listed but i still cant update....
any help?
-edit-
got it
Last edited by skllndy365 : 08-12-2008 at 02:40 PM.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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08-12-2008, 03:19 PM
A couple of things I've noticed:
- I'm not getting HTML email. I'm with Sprint BIS. Anyone else with Sprint?
- The Roaming only option is now gone. It's like before - you can only choose Sprint or Automatic for your network preference.
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08-12-2008, 03:32 PM
Having a hard time getting the OTA enterprise activation running.
Just sitting at 0% with everything initializing
All things are possible, except for skiing through a revolving door...
Last edited by Raven : 08-12-2008 at 03:39 PM.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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08-12-2008, 03:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mattmcl
CoreyGMan-
My BES email doesn't show HTML emails either, though my two BIS ones do. I would guess that BES doesn't support it (yet).
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BES version 4.1.6 does.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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08-12-2008, 04:13 PM
Okay, heres what I did to get my phone working correctly with HTML emails. Im on a Verizon 8130.
1. Manually delete all the email service books in Options > Advanced Options > Service Books
2. Do a hard reset. Take the battery out, reboot and confirm the serivce books are still gone.
3. Login to your BIS, and send the service books. Wait a little while, about 2-3 minutes or so, to see if the options have appeared in Email settings to enable HTML. If they dont, do another hard reset.
4. Turn off "automatically download images".
5. Send yourself an HTML email. NOTE HTML emails will only work for NEW emails that are sent to you from here on out. Not existing ones on your phone.
6. Open the HTML email you sent yourself, press the menu button, and you should see "get HTML". Once you do that, you should also see in your menu, "get image(s)".
7. I went back and enabled "download images automatically" and everything works great now.
It seems like its just really buggy.
Also, I didnt have to press "get image" on every image. I did it once, and then again, and it gave me "get imageS" so at the most, you do it twice.
Last edited by ls1norcal : 08-12-2008 at 04:14 PM.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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08-12-2008, 04:25 PM
Another thing, I dont know if anyone else had this problem but 4.5 seems to fix it.
With 4.3, when I would select a contact to SMS text, and they had more than one number, when I could click "SMS text [contact name]" my call log would randomly show up. I havent gotten this yet, and before it would happen about once every 5 times I would send a text to a contact with multiple numbers.
Woohoo!
Last edited by ls1norcal : 08-12-2008 at 05:28 PM.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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08-12-2008, 06:57 PM
Has any1 noticed that after the upgrade options>status there is no longer atotal file and only free files...
Also html email not working after doing the send service/battery pull procedure.
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08-12-2008, 06:59 PM
True, there is no longer a file total, only file free.
The HTML email never worked flawlessly (and still doesn't). I always had to click 'get images' and even then all the pics wouldn't load.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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08-12-2008, 08:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by camp514
Has any1 noticed that after the upgrade options>status there is no longer atotal file and only free files...
Also html email not working after doing the send service/battery pull procedure.
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I logged into verizon bis & resent my services books & then my html began to work
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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08-12-2008, 09:48 PM
Update went great, thanks guys 
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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08-12-2008, 09:59 PM
Can someone verify if the Docs2go has the whole suit of apps?
.66 can't be the gold release for VZW, as it clearly is missing some of the Docs2Go apps, some background, and some other stuff.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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08-12-2008, 10:10 PM
Wirelessly posted
Another thing this is missing is the ability to create different colored folders.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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08-12-2008, 10:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darthkim
Can someone verify if the Docs2go has the whole suit of apps?
.66 can't be the gold release for VZW, as it clearly is missing some of the Docs2Go apps, some background, and some other stuff.
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4.5.0.56 comes with the free version....word, slideshow, & sheet
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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08-12-2008, 11:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darthkim
Can someone verify if the Docs2go has the whole suit of apps?
.66 can't be the gold release for VZW, as it clearly is missing some of the Docs2Go apps, some background, and some other stuff.
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Once you load 4.5 onto your device, unplug and re-connect to DM....then hit app loader, you have to check the box for doc's to go after OS is installed
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