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08-20-2008, 12:55 PM
The automatic download doesn't work. Hit the menu key and select "Get Images."
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08-20-2008, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by John Clark
The automatic download doesn't work. Hit the menu key and select "Get Images."
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Thanks...forgot the basic rule, search/read first, ask later.
I had seen posts from someone that claimed he wasn't having to get images on each email, but I guess that was either a bug or a misunderstanding.
Hope they update the feature to allow auto download. All the extra key-presses don't make it a very friendly feature for me.
I'm still having a problem w/images - even when I do a "get images" on an email, all of the images in the email still don't download/appear. I've followed the steps in the HTML Emails thread that JS created, so seems like there is a bug on the server or client side that is affecting me for some reason.
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Email server search and calender lookup not working -
08-21-2008, 08:11 AM
Hey guys downloaded this version, but I am not able to search for old emails on my server for neither my corporate account or my gmail. Ditto for looking up contacts' calendars.. I am not on exchange though, i'm using BIS. Is it that I'm using BIS or does this version not include those updates?
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08-21-2008, 10:39 AM
Wirelessly posted
I just noticed today in 4.5 that under advanced options there is wireless upgrade. I dunno if it has been pointed out before but what does this do?
Last edited by Collin16 : 08-21-2008 at 03:34 PM.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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08-21-2008, 10:55 AM
I noticed that too when I first installed 4.5. It has subsequently disappeared. I think it went away after I sent my service books...
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08-21-2008, 10:56 AM
It's for wireless upgrade of specific OS applications. It's not being used yet.
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08-21-2008, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Redflea
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I'm still having a problem w/images - even when I do a "get images" on an email, all of the images in the email still don't download/appear. I've followed the steps in the HTML Emails thread that JS created, so seems like there is a bug on the server or client side that is affecting me for some reason.
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Same here. It seems random--some images appear, some don't.
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08-21-2008, 12:18 PM
I have noticed sometimes some images don't come down... I don't know, but it really rare.
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08-21-2008, 02:42 PM
I've been having the same issues with HTML email. I'm lucky if I get an email where all the images download. And to top it off once I do the "get images" any time I try to "get image" on the images that didn't download nothing happens (no arrows, no image). I sure hope this is something they get fixed soon...
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08-21-2008, 04:18 PM
I'm optimistic they'll sort the HTML feature out...
I'm happiest now about the fact that all of my audio and video media now always shows up in Media Manger on the BB...w/OS 4.3 I always had files that wouldn't display. W/4.5 as far as I can tell so far, all my audio/video is showing up, all the time.
Another problem - is anyone else losing their profile settings on restart? I restarted after removing a program, and when the BB restarted all my profile settings were set back to defaults.
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08-21-2008, 04:23 PM
has anyone noticed that the battery life of a pearl decreased with upgrading to the new OS (upgraded from v4.3 to v4.5)?
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08-21-2008, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JSanders
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Hi J,
I had already found that reference and did the deletes thru DM. Still have entries in my address book. It's like there is an address book that isn't associated with any mail sys.?
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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08-21-2008, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by FgCrump
i have an Alltel 8130, 4.5.0.56 with DTM 4.5.0.15. BES synching with Lotus Notes 7.0
After upgrading I have duplicate entries in my address book. I've gone thru Advanced Backup and deleted the adress book and "all" address book, and I do a battery pull. The address book entries are still on the 8130, even though the DTM says it's empty? if I synch, then I get duplicate entries again.
Anybody else have this problem/ suggestions?
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Figured it out!!!!!
I had 2 Alltel.Backberry.com email accounts. Though I had deleted one, the service books for it did not get deleted from the BB. After deleting the service books I was able to delete the address records using the DM. I don't know why the records wouldn't show in the DM before deleting the service books??
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08-22-2008, 03:59 AM
I've probably missed something, but the OS has been upgraded and I can't find Docs2Go, I'm on Sprint BIS, not really sure if that makes a difference, but any help would be appreciated.
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08-22-2008, 10:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by arasin
I've probably missed something, but the OS has been upgraded and I can't find Docs2Go, I'm on Sprint BIS, not really sure if that makes a difference, but any help would be appreciated.
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You must go into Desktop Manager > Application Loader & Docs2Go will be an option that you can check to have installed.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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08-22-2008, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by xrt.2010
has anyone noticed that the battery life of a pearl decreased with upgrading to the new OS (upgraded from v4.3 to v4.5)?
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I noticed that as well...but i then made a conscious effort to look at my running programs. After I did that my battery life has improved greatly...in the last week, my battery performance is actually better in 4.5 than it was in 4.3
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08-22-2008, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by maniac1181
Ok... Found out that all the contacts that where not properly recognised by the system had accents in them... I tried zeroing the device and the device had no problems with accents after that...
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Ok... I'm desesperatly close to going back to 4.3 at this point because I still can't get my voice dialer to work correctly... yesterday I thought I had it all figured out since I wiped the device, and put back all my contacts without accents in their names before I entered the ones with accents manually... at that time, voice dialing worked for all of them... this morning I had to do a battery pull and when I reopened, my contacts where corrupted again...
Also, I can't accept contacts through blackberry messenger anymore...
I really hope I can keep 4.5 since it has some very nice new feature and the device actually is more stable now than it was before for me... but I prefer having to have input system errors every once in a while rather than loose voice dialing and the ability to transfer contacts with my BB Messenger contact list
Any suggestions, idead, miracles possible?
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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08-22-2008, 09:43 PM
Wirelessly posted
Just finished installing this new OS. Worked perfectly, phone is doing great so far.
Differences I've noticed so far...
-phone seems to operate faster than when it did on the last posted OS.
-visual change to media player, has 4 media player buttons instead of just 2.
-almost 4mb of more free space than before.
-menu>settings>status just shows free space now, instead of free space and total space.
-on home screen, the margin space above and below my background photo is now black...I love this change, not sure if it's something the user can change though.
-no more preloaded pictures in the media>pictures>preloaded pictures section. The empty preloaded pictures section is still present, though.
This install was done on my AllTel 8130, following the steps in the first post...with no problems at all. I'm posting wirelessly so please excuse any typos.
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?? about MMS texts and Ringtones on new OS -
08-23-2008, 02:34 AM
I just recieved an 8130 Monday and have been working with it trying to get used to the Suretype etc... I noticed that I wasn't receiving any of the MMS text messages that my daughter sends of our granddaughter. (you know, those moments that are caught on the video camera of her cell phone  )
I talked to Alltel tech and they said that the 8130 doesnt receive those type. (I hate it when the sales clerks dont know as much as they think they do)
Is the newer software allowing MMS texts?
Another question I have, is Alltel tech also told me that no longer can most cell manufacturers make phones that you can put your own music and make it a custom ringtone per caller. I noticed that on my 8130 I can, but my wifes phone (Samsung Muse) will not allow it and most of Alltels models will not allow it any longer,  he said that the manufacturers are making you BUY ringtones now.  Are you still able to do custom ringtones in the newer version?
Thanks!
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08-23-2008, 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by pcwilliams
I noticed that as well...but i then made a conscious effort to look at my running programs. After I did that my battery life has improved greatly...in the last week, my battery performance is actually better in 4.5 than it was in 4.3
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are you talking about checking the applications open when you hit the shift and the back button?
if so, I have the 5 standards options: bb messenger, call log, home screen, browser, and messages.
any other changes that could've happened with the upgraded OS causing a decrease in battery life? and any other suggestions to help improve it?
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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08-23-2008, 03:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cavemanofmo
I just recieved an 8130 Monday and have been working with it trying to get used to the Suretype etc... I noticed that I wasn't receiving any of the MMS text messages that my daughter sends of our granddaughter. (you know, those moments that are caught on the video camera of her cell phone  )
I talked to Alltel tech and they said that the 8130 doesnt receive those type. (I hate it when the sales clerks dont know as much as they think they do)
Is the newer software allowing MMS texts?
Another question I have, is Alltel tech also told me that no longer can most cell manufacturers make phones that you can put your own music and make it a custom ringtone per caller. I noticed that on my 8130 I can, but my wifes phone (Samsung Muse) will not allow it and most of Alltels models will not allow it any longer,  he said that the manufacturers are making you BUY ringtones now.  Are you still able to do custom ringtones in the newer version?
Thanks!
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The mms issue is RIM's MMS software not working with Alltel's MMS system. Several fixes have been released by RIM to Alltel for testing and so far they've been failing the testing process. The problem is being addressed, and will be sent out automatically to us Alltel BB users as an OTA service packet. This is not something that we can update or fix...gotta wait on Alltel. The customer reps have no idea what they're talking about 99% of the time.
As for the ringtone issue...recently several of my family members are no longer able to bluetooth sound files, or set certain sound files as ring tones. I *think* Alltel has been sending out updates to lock up certain things on those phones. I haven't noticed anything on my BB, yet.
Read my last post, about 3 posts up...I explain the changes/differences I've noticed with the new OS. You and I have the same phone and service, so you should have the same experience I did...for the most part. Be sure to follow the steps in the first post!!!
Last edited by johnnyrichter : 08-23-2008 at 03:51 AM.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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08-23-2008, 03:20 PM
i updated my software with this guide, and now my BB seems to be much slower, is this normal, can anyone tell me what i should do??? Also, i dont have a memory card, and i added 2 games on there i dont know if that could be the problem, please help me anyone?
Last edited by woogyboogy : 08-23-2008 at 03:29 PM.
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BBF Moderator
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08-23-2008, 06:09 PM
Generally, the device will run a little slow at first and then speed up as programs are loaded into memory.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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08-23-2008, 10:14 PM
It turns out that there might have actually been a downside to this OS, at least for my Alltel 8130.
Ever since the upgrade...my data hasn't been transferring like it normally does. I average 3 bars in 1X around my house, and can access any web app or website whenever I wanted to. Now nothing wants to connect half the time I try, which started happening after the upgrade.
I have done a wipe/re-install since the 4.5 install, due to another problem I was having(accidentally deleted important modules), and this issue is still present. I even had my service books resent.
The last call I made to Alltel, she had me hit send>menu key>options>general settings...and look for "active number", which doesn't exist on that menu for me. The first thing she asked after I told her that was "Did you download a more recent OS that we aren't yet offering? If so...that's why".
How do I downgrade my OS? I still have the setup file for the last working OS I used, which was the last one posted before 4.5.
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Geotagging -
08-23-2008, 10:43 PM
Hey did anyone else notice that GeoTagging is available under the camera options? I thought it was pretty cool. It uses the GPS tag on the pictures and places it on the blackberry maps app according to where the picture was taken. Pretty awesome.
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08-23-2008, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyrichter
It turns out that there might have actually been a downside to this OS, at least for my Alltel 8130.
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Johnny, go to here
Code:
blackberryfaq.com/index.php/BlackBerry_Operating_System_Downloads
and download the Alltel version that came with your phone.
Last edited by Cavemanofmo : 08-23-2008 at 11:40 PM.
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08-24-2008, 12:08 AM
i have alltel too, and i just upgraded to 4.5.0.56, and im having no problems...
Do you guys think i should downgrade just to be on the safe side...or no???
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08-24-2008, 12:16 AM
If you have no problems, why would you want to downgrade?
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08-24-2008, 12:26 AM
this is true, but i didnt know if it would cause me problems further down the road...
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08-24-2008, 12:27 AM
I'd wait and see how it goes...then dowgrade if you feel you need to.
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08-24-2008, 12:33 AM
how easy is it to downgrade?
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08-24-2008, 12:34 AM
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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08-24-2008, 12:57 AM
thank you : )
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08-24-2008, 10:44 PM
my blackberry messenger doesnt work and i have 12 ppl on there so i am guna downgrade thanks anyways
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08-25-2008, 01:42 AM
Well after a few days of having this OS, I was able to get a more detailed idea on the problems I'm having.
First problem: I use my phone to connect to my computer via bluetooth, in order to "dial-up" to the alltel data network...basically using my phone as a modem. After the OS install, net still works and everything is fine until I sign off the net on my pc...it takes up to a half an hour before my phone starts sending/receiving data after the net connection to my pc has been turned off. I have no idea why it's doing this, but it's a pain in the butt because I alsmost immediately sign on jivetalk(aim) after I sign off aim on my pc, and now I have to wait half an hour to do that.
Second problem: I was around 18mb free before the OS upgrade, upgraded and had about 20-21MB...downloaded only 2 themes and now I'm around 13mb free space. 2 themes didn't take up over 7mb, more like 1mb.
Third problem: Battery life is almost unheard of after OS upgrade. Today, my battery went from 65% to 20% in what seemed like only 5-6 hours. No programs running, bluetooth off, and I didn't make a single phone call in that time. I think I texted someone 2 or 3 times in that time. Most of that time the phone was locked and in my shirt pocket.
I'm going to delete the 3rd party themes, do a backup, and downgrade to the OS that was posted before this one...since I think Alltel's latest OS still doesn't have the Attachments update that fixes me not being able to view/save e-mail attachments.
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BBF Moderator
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08-25-2008, 01:46 AM
Those third party themes can cause problems on the device, including battery life issues. Try deleting those first and see what happens. Any other 3rd party applications?
As far as attachments, all BB OS's contain the BB attachment service. However, not all file types are supported.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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08-25-2008, 02:12 AM
The OS that came on my phone let me see that there were attachments, but 90% of the time I couldn't do anything with them. I noticed that Alltel has released a a newer OS since then, so I'm downloading it now.
I just deleted the 3rd party themes, back up to 21mb and the phone is actually running a bit faster. Thanks again for showing me how to do that.
I will hold off the OS downgrade for a day or two, now that those 3rd party themes are removed. If after 1-2 days I'm still having that data problem, and the battery life problem...I'll downgrade to the most recent Alltel OS.
EDIT: I do have three other 3rd party apps. Gmail, JiveTalk and BBweather. I also removed everything from the applications list on my phone that I didn't need or use(googe stuff, yahoo stuff)...and unchecked everything but the essentials when doing the OS upgrade. Averaging around 20mb free at the moment.
Last edited by johnnyrichter : 08-25-2008 at 02:14 AM.
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08-25-2008, 07:14 PM
v4.5 no longer available at the site link? I only saw the Desktop Manager available for download...?
-GIRION
"For pretty things that serve no use, the true art finds its tether.
To those who know illumination comes wickless in the nether."
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08-25-2008, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Girion
v4.5 no longer available at the site link? I only saw the Desktop Manager available for download...?
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same here
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08-25-2008, 11:16 PM
Very strange. All Device OS's have been removed from the site for that carrier. No other carriers are offering OS 4.5 yet.
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