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Default 02-05-2007, 08:55 PM

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Mosty people have reported getting the max speed indicated, 110 to 115k.
I'm pretty sure the maximum speed for EDGE is 236.8 kbps.
   
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Default 02-06-2007, 08:53 AM

Thanks for this thread. Very detailed and I was able to connect on my second try (I forgot to add the tmobile string first time ). I am surprised by how fast the browsing speed is seeing it's through a 2g source like Edge. I was even able run bittorrent over it. I was expecting b/t 50kb-80, not 100+. Unlimited internet and no additional cost for tethering..

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Default 02-06-2007, 11:46 AM

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Thanks for this thread. Very detailed and I was able to connect on my second try (I forgot to add the tmobile string first time ).
For those of you who are having problems making the Pearl work as a modem, take note of the above.

Check, double check and then check again the settings, commands and entries as it is easy to make a mistake when typing the strings, etc.

Generally, if you get an "error" and "redial" message, there is something wrong on your end, not with the processes discussed herein.
   
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Default 02-06-2007, 04:46 PM

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I'm pretty sure the maximum speed for EDGE is 236.8 kbps.
Of course it is. Even 1XRTT is 144 kbit/s. He must be measuring the tethered speed between phone and laptop by mistake.
   
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Default 02-06-2007, 10:56 PM

using a bluetooth teather and a tweak of the modem settings I get 925Kbs with my 8100 and T-mobile with the Vista OS. I also got these speeds with XP just make sure you set the modem to its highest rate its set at 125kbs default.


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Default 02-07-2007, 02:04 AM

hi guyz
been reading on this topic for while now
i have perl and would like to connect
i have bdm open and connected but i have no modem in device manager
when i try to add new modem in control panel in phone & modem it would not give me any option to add

any help on this?

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Default 02-07-2007, 05:04 AM

Accessing the web works OK on my UK O2 Pearl but I cannot get FTP and SSH to work. Anyone any ideas.

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Default 02-10-2007, 04:44 AM

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I used the initial setup instructions - no connection. Read a little further, removed the period, and immediately connected.

Ran the Speakeasy speed test twice -
1) 75kbps down, 35k up
2) 129kbps down, 32 up

Read a little further, added the "IP" to the config, bumped up the connection speed to 921k.

3) 107kbps down, 40k up

Thanks to all who contributed to this effort!
I am using the old ATT Network (Cingular Blue)

Got 110 down and 51 up. I am thinking of canceling my DSL.. what do you guys think?
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Default 02-12-2007, 01:05 PM

Using blackberry as a modem was great ... used it on I-10 on the way to California. Used it in my hotel all weekend instead of paying the $10/day wi-fi fee. Speeds were very serviceable.

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Default 02-13-2007, 10:50 AM

Thanks for posting this. I knew the phone was capable of doing it, but havent got around to figuring out how to do it in the month I have had it. Its done now and working perfectly. This is a great backup connection for me.

One issue I do have, that may or may not be related to the phone. Everything works fine, I can SSH, browse the web etc etc using my PC with this phone as the modem, the one thing I cannot do is VPN into work using this connection - which is my primary need for it. I have a email into our guy in charge of our VPN here, but I dont know if he will be able to help. I suspect it is a security setting on our network that might be preventing a wireless VPN connection, but I am not sure.

Is there anything on the phone that might prevent VPN connections? Same PC can VPN just fine on a landline, but not over my blackberry connection.

I am seeing about 180k speeds, everything else works great. Any ideas?

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Default 02-13-2007, 11:12 AM

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I am using the old ATT Network (Cingular Blue)

Got 110 down and 51 up. I am thinking of canceling my DSL.. what do you guys think?
Since you're obviously satisfied with GPRS data speeds, why do you need dsl? You'll be ecstactic if you ever get EDGE.
   
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Smile Data or Minutes will be used - 02-14-2007, 11:16 AM

Great to know that now i can use the pearl to connect to the internet, but one question: does this connection use my plan minutes or data?


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Question Plan Minutes or Data - 02-14-2007, 11:58 AM

Nice to know that I can connect to the net with the 8100, one question, does this connection use my minutes or data from the montly plan???


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Default 02-14-2007, 01:58 PM

It worked great for me the first time, but although I saw others saying that it worked for them over bluetooth, I couldn't get that to work. I can live with it since I might as well sync and charge if I've got my laptop out, but it would be nice to know how.
   
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Default 02-23-2007, 12:46 PM

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I tried them all. The only one I got to work for Cingular was this.
+cgdcont=1,"IP","wap.cingular"

Nothing else worked.
THANK YOU! I finally got it to work using this line. I thought I was going to lose some hair before trying this...
   
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Default 02-23-2007, 06:54 PM

This rocks!! I can't belive how great this forum is! the flashing tackball was really cool...but this step by step here is awesome! worked first time I set it up THANKS!...this should may be pinned
   
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Talking 02-25-2007, 04:15 PM

Thanks also.

Got it to work via USB and Bluetooth.

Using BT I get anywhere from 160kbps to 202kbps down and around 60kbps up.

Anyone know how using the 8100 as a modem via BT affects the battery life? Or is it no different than just using the BB without a BT modem?
   
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Default 03-03-2007, 11:03 PM

how do you set it up for use through bluetooth


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Default 03-04-2007, 02:29 AM

What should be set for "PPP Settings" in the Networking tab? I see the following

Enable LCP extensions
Enable software compression
Negotiate multi-link for single link connections

I'm getting about 80kbps download when running speed test from dslreports.com

Just wondering if there are some settings that'll speed up the connection.
   
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Default 03-04-2007, 02:32 AM

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Thanks also.

Got it to work via USB and Bluetooth.

Using BT I get anywhere from 160kbps to 202kbps down and around 60kbps up.

Anyone know how using the 8100 as a modem via BT affects the battery life? Or is it no different than just using the BB without a BT modem?
The Pearl uses Bluetooth 2.0 spec and based on article from Wikipedia, it has following feature compared to pre 2.0 spec.

"Lower power consumption through a reduced duty cycle."
   
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Default 03-12-2007, 11:25 PM

If it's possible to just run through this setup and use the Pearl as a modem on a regular Pearl Blackberry-only data plan, then why does Cingular offer more expensive data plans specifically for Blackberry tethering, and do I have to get one of those if I want it to work?
   
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Default do i need to pay extra phone bill? - 03-13-2007, 12:34 AM

Do I need to pay extra phone bill by using Unlimited Web Access.
I am from Singapore and My Service Provider is "StarHub"
   
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Default 03-13-2007, 01:50 AM

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Curious - do people find the 115k useable. On Cingular, I find it is ok to grab an email ,but really to slow for serious web work. Thoughts?
Its not great for heavy surfing, but useful in a pinch to grab something quick. I only time I really use it is when traveling through an airport w/o free Wifi. Now the day a 3G Blackberry is available this changes the landscape with respect to surfing.
   
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Default 03-13-2007, 01:52 AM

Hi guys, total noob here. I was just wondering if some one could post step by step directions to do this with windows vista. I cant figure it out :(. Thanks in advance.
   
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Default 03-13-2007, 02:13 AM

This works pretty good, the speed really surprised me. Great alternative for those who use dial up!


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Default 03-13-2007, 02:14 AM

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Its not great for heavy surfing, but useful in a pinch to grab something quick. I only time I really use it is when traveling through an airport w/o free Wifi. Now the day a 3G Blackberry is available this changes the landscape with respect to surfing.
Yeah it will...


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Default 03-13-2007, 05:01 AM

I won't bore you guys with the specifics of my problems, but I have a quick question:

I was trying all this out earlier and wasn't having much success, but at least when I clicked diagnostics>>query modem, it was detecting my pearl and giving me this:

ATQ0V1E0 - OK
AT+GMM - BlackBerry IP Modem
AT+FCLASS=? - COMMAND NOT SUPPORTED
AT#CLS=? - COMMAND NOT SUPPORTED
AT+GCI? - COMMAND NOT SUPPORTED
AT+GCI=? - COMMAND NOT SUPPORTED
ATI1 - Research in Motion / BlackBerry IP Modem
ATI2 - Research in Motion / BlackBerry IP Modem
ATI3 - Research in Motion / BlackBerry IP Modem
ATI4 - Research in Motion / BlackBerry IP Modem
ATI5 - Research in Motion / BlackBerry IP Modem
ATI6 - Research in Motion / BlackBerry IP Modem
ATI7 - Research in Motion / BlackBerry IP Modem

Well needeless to say after many failed attempts I gave up getting connected. Then I decided to go back and try again.

I connected the pearl to my laptop and started the DM like always, started the process of setting up a network connection. However, when I click diagnostics>>>query modem, I CANNOT get this damn computer to detect the modem and give me the info posted above. The only thing I can think of is that I must have changed some setting.

Anyone know why it might not be detecting the modem, or how I might resolve this issue. I know it's a longshot and I'll probably ahve to figure this out myself but I'm about ready to throw the pearl or laptop one against the wall.

Thanks for any help

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Default 03-13-2007, 05:44 AM

Woot!!!

I'm typing this using my pearl as a modem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Very very cool!!

I finally got my laptop to query the modem, then I added this string found on page two: +cgdcont=1,"IP","wap.cingular"


Next thing I know my laptop starts acting like it's doing something.........then...... I'm connected!!!!

Thanks to EVERYONE who posted in this thread. You helped me more than you'll ever know. I wasn't going to be able to sleep until I did this(4:42am CST, I've been up all night).

Again, thank you!!

I'm going to surf a little and then go to bed a happy man.

Sincerely,

AF1

EDIT: I can't believe how fast I can download pages. Almost makes me wonder why I'm paying for high speed internet. I'm lucky I guess that I get EDGE reception 24/7. I didn't have much in the way of expectations as far as connection speeds based on some comments but, I'm thrilled.

EDIT: just tested my connection speed and it was

184.6 kbps

Not sure if that's considered good, but it sure feels good.;)

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Default 03-14-2007, 02:09 AM

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Woot!!!

I'm typing this using my pearl as a modem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Very very cool!!

I finally got my laptop to query the modem, then I added this string found on page two: +cgdcont=1,"IP","wap.cingular"


Next thing I know my laptop starts acting like it's doing something.........then...... I'm connected!!!!

Thanks to EVERYONE who posted in this thread. You helped me more than you'll ever know. I wasn't going to be able to sleep until I did this(4:42am CST, I've been up all night).

Again, thank you!!

I'm going to surf a little and then go to bed a happy man.

Sincerely,

AF1

EDIT: I can't believe how fast I can download pages. Almost makes me wonder why I'm paying for high speed internet. I'm lucky I guess that I get EDGE reception 24/7. I didn't have much in the way of expectations as far as connection speeds based on some comments but, I'm thrilled.

EDIT: just tested my connection speed and it was

184.6 kbps

Not sure if that's considered good, but it sure feels good.;)
I have been there before.. that is up at 4am fixing a problem...
   
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Default 03-17-2007, 05:03 PM

Just another thank you! Just speak easy tested at 210kbps down and 76kbps up! Fantastic!! That's with full bars, though. It just makes me wish I had sprung for bluetooth on my lappy. O well...

Are we 100% positive tmo is ok with unlimited tethering?

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Default 03-17-2007, 08:49 PM

Anyone know why I'm getting an "Error 718"? I've followed other posts about manually entering the DNS info but still the same error.

This only happens with the 8800 and not the 8100.

I called Cingular about it but they got bent out of shape and said I'd have to pay extra for tethering and would not help.

It took about 5 minutes to get my Pearl connected but so far 2 8800's get the same 718 error.
   
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Default 03-18-2007, 01:22 AM

wait so is this true that cingular makes you pay more for tethering or is it they want you to pay them to ask them how to do it? I guess what I am asking is does cingular know if you are tethering or not?

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Just another thank you! Just speak easy tested at 210kbps down and 76kbps up! Fantastic!! That's with full bars, though. It just makes me wish I had sprung for bluetooth on my lappy. O well...

Are we 100% positive tmo is ok with unlimited tethering?

i think they will eventually catch up to it...
   
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Default 03-18-2007, 04:43 AM

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wait so is this true that cingular makes you pay more for tethering or is it they want you to pay them to ask them how to do it? I guess what I am asking is does cingular know if you are tethering or not?

I convinced myself that they can not tell the difference as of yet ;) my last bill had many MB on it and was ok. i am with the old AT&T (blue)

PS i have not been abusing the tethering - only use when i really need it.. maybe it does not matter. anyone cares to add their 2 cents?
   
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i think they will eventually catch up to it...
Well it's been posted that tmo encourages it and is fine with it. But another thread someone brought up that they were told they needed a different plan with tmo if they were going to tether. That's why I ask.
   
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can you still receive phone calls when you're using the phone as a modem?
   
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Default 03-18-2007, 05:19 PM

Has anyone with a Cinguar Orange account with the BB unlimited 29.99 plan been actually billed yet for using a tethered pearl?
   
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Mine worked. I was at Starbucks today. Thanks!
   
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can you still receive phone calls when you're using the phone as a modem?
yes.


My problem is the reverse. If i am online (even if i am using IM on the phone), and i get a call, the internet is disconnected. is this normal? that is not being able to run internet and voice at the same time
   
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My problem is the reverse. If i am online (even if i am using IM on the phone), and i get a call, the internet is disconnected. is this normal? that is not being able to run internet and voice at the same time
completely normal. You cant get data and voice at the same time, sorry!
   
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